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There’s a lot of talk and hope that Disney begins bringing out Disney princesses that are gay, promiscuous, transgender etc to move times along. A lot of people oppose this with the argument that this sort of thing should be kept out of children’s films and be tackled once they get older. I’m just looking for everybody on here’s opinions on it really, are you open to it or do you not think it should happen? And I’m not just talking about Disney princesses here if you want to bring other children’s films and TV into it, it’s just Disney princesses are the most obvious example.
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Disney is aimed at pre teens, there is an PG rating on films for a reason, how are Disney going to get around the PG Certificate with bed hopping Princesses
Trangender and homosexuality can be dealt with in kids films yes.
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Princesses who are traps or bedhoppers is a bit inappropriate, but if the romance between two princesses were to be treated exactly as one between a prince and princess, where's the harm?
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We shouldn't be feeding kids heteronormative stories because that's one of the contributing factors to kids growing up thinking it should only be a man and a woman.
An LGBT couple here and there wouldn't be bad for Disney and it most certainly wouldn't be bad for kids. |
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Good question Cal. Personally I think things should be age appropriate, particularly the Disney brand, and I don't think sexuality and promiscuity are really appropriate subjects for small children. Transgender I think is too confusing and too little known about it to start promoting it in children's movies.
I think we live in a climate where most people can be accepting without having to push subjects relating to sexuality on small children. I think the teen market in relation to movies and children's literature is where such subjects should drift in.
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No harm at all I was responding to the promiscuous aspect, I already said transgender and homosexuality can be addressed.
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I think if sexuality were introduced into a fairytale then it would need to be very carefully done. Children should not be force fed sex, love is a different matter entirely.
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Just a little variation you know, I know my parents never sat me down and said to me LGBT was a thing. I learned it all myself eventually, but I think definitely in these learning stages it would be good to have this light level stuff. |
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Because heterosexuality is not promoted as an issue. All children, until they start growing us in labs, have a mother and a father. That's just a fact.
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How will they be able to show that a princess was actually a bloke in a previous life?
Ive yet to see one that doesn't look exactly like a lady. |
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What is wrong with two princes or two princesses? |
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LGBT characters absolutely would be a great step. Promiscuity would be inappropriate for a kids movie though.
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I think you’re overthinking it haha. It would be the exact same disney story but the guy marries the guy, or the girl kisses the girl (etc) at the end.
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I think if you look at the little robber girl and Gerda in the snow queen for instance, I think there are some references to same sex relationships in some stories.
Star wars is aimed at a slightly older demographic and is much more appropriate.
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How old do you have to be to see an onscreen homosexual romance?
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Also two lesbians top right Spoiler:
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I reckon for older kids cool but i’d say Disney would be too young tbh.They’re usually a ‘U’ rating i think which means kids of any age can go.Depending on the age of the kids many parents won’t have had that conversation with their kids yet.
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