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Kizzy · 05-07-2018, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

Most aren’t though are they - more dramatics. Most are economic migrants NOT ‘refugees fleeing for their lives’. Can you not distinguish between the two! In fact the former are responsible for the latter getting such a negative welcome, by abusing the refugee crisis to their own ends.

It is also fact that parts of Germany and Sweden, for example, occupied by immigrants are pretty much no-go areas now even for the police. The gratitude hey!

How do you know this?...

Which parts?

LeatherTrumpet · 05-07-2018, 02:14 PM

I guess at least no one yet has denied that the article is spot on

that, at least, is progress

Toy Soldier · 05-07-2018, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I guess at least no one yet has denied that the article is spot on

that, at least, is progress

No one on here, "Liberal" or otherwise, has (ever) said that open-door immigration is a good idea. That's probably why.

Brillopad · 05-07-2018, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No one on here, "Liberal" or otherwise, has (ever) said that open-door immigration is a good idea. That's probably why.

If they vote for Corbyn they effectively do coz that is what we’ll get...

Brillopad · 05-07-2018, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

How do you know this?...

Which parts?

Most are not coming from war-torn countries such as Syria for a start. Are you seriously trying to say you think all or the majority are!

chuff me dizzy · 05-07-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

If they vote for Corbyn they effectively do coz that is what we’ll get...

Yes it is,God forbid he ever gets into Downing Street

Toy Soldier · 05-07-2018, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

If they vote for Corbyn they effectively do coz that is what we’ll get...

It isn't though. Labour have a different immigration policy to the Conservatives but they certainly don't have an "open door" policy... That's just sensationalist nonsense.

smudgie · 05-07-2018, 03:09 PM

Speed up the return home for economic migrants.
Speed up the welcome for genuine refugees.

How hard can it be to sort out

Kizzy · 05-07-2018, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

Most are not coming from war-torn countries such as Syria for a start. Are you seriously trying to say you think all or the majority are!

Where are they from then?... You keep making these statements, where are you getting your information from?

Kizzy · 05-07-2018, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

If they vote for Corbyn they effectively do coz that is what we’ll get...

You are sounding more and more like a daily Mail headline generator... Give it a rest!

Brillopad · 05-07-2018, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Where are they from then?... You keep making these statements, where are you getting your information from?

https://www.politico.eu/article/swed...law-and-order/

Just one example. You can look for the rest - but you won’t because you don’t want to acknowledge the problems. These people have ruined a prosperous and peaceful country.

Kizzy · 05-07-2018, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

https://www.politico.eu/article/swed...law-and-order/

Just one example. You can look for the rest - but you won’t because you don’t want to acknowledge the problems. These people have ruined a prosperous and peaceful country.

How about you listen to the Swedes instead of some opinion piece vlog?

https://www.government.se/articles/2...ime-in-sweden/

Brillopad · 05-07-2018, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

How about you listen to the Swedes instead of some opinion piece vlog?

https://www.government.se/articles/2...ime-in-sweden/

Oh be quiet I have seen several articles previously on the issues in Sweden with migrants. I also saw some videos, one which was shown on here, where migrants were very aggressive and committed unprovoked attacks against some journalists/film makers and the ambulance staff needed a police escort. If you don’t want to believe you won’t.

Sorry Kizzy but you are either being deliberately provocative or you are living in your own little utopia where migrants are all innocent victims feeling persecution. If you say so! Meanwhile ...

By the way because rape isn’t considered rape in their own countries it is not justification. Women shouldn’t have to be raped because men from such cultures don’t recognise force as rape. You do know that’s because they don’t believe women have any rights ! Seriously!

Kizzy · 05-07-2018, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh be quiet I have seen several articles previously on the issues in Sweden with migrants. I also saw some videos, one which was shown on here, where migrants were very aggressive and committed unprovoked attacks against some journalists/film makers and the ambulance staff needed a police escort. If you don’t want to believe you won’t.

Sorry Kizzy but you are either being deliberately provocative or you are living in your own little utopia where migrants are all innocent victims feeling persecution. If you say so! Meanwhile ...

By the way because rape isn’t considered rape in their own countries it is not justification. Women shouldn’t have to be raped because men from such cultures don’t recognise force as rape. You do know that’s because they don’t believe women have any rights ! Seriously!

Look at you having a fit because the Swedes won't corroborate what you think is happening in their country :/

LeatherTrumpet · 05-07-2018, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Look at you having a fit because the Swedes won't corroborate what you think is happening in their country :/

i remember when you had a go a trump when he called out Sweden and then this happened...

Riots erupt in Sweden’s capital just days after Trump comments

https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-...=.f4adf5cc1b58

Kizzy · 05-07-2018, 05:00 PM

Yes there was an incident... there have been incidents here.
What does it prove?

I'm still awaiting an answer to how brillo knows the majority of migrants are economic.

chuff me dizzy · 05-07-2018, 05:01 PM

IF they were fleeing for their lives ,they would stay in the 1st safe country they land in, instead of laying on lorry axels to get to the land of milk, honey and giros .... The UK

Brillopad · 05-07-2018, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Look at you having a fit because the Swedes won't corroborate what you think is happening in their country :/

I believe my own ears and eyes. You are welcome to believe the Swedish government who do have a reason to save face. Like Merkel they made the wrong decision taking so many migrants and they are embarassed about admitting it.

For someone who generally seems to be anti-establishment your willingness to believe this particular government when it suits is highly amusing.

Kizzy · 05-07-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IF they were fleeing for their lives ,they would stay in the 1st safe country they land in, instead of laying on lorry axels to get to the land of milk, honey and giros .... The UK

Then why are we discussing Sweden? :/

chuff me dizzy · 05-07-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh be quiet I have seen several articles previously on the issues in Sweden with migrants. I also saw some videos, one which was shown on here, where migrants were very aggressive and committed unprovoked attacks against some journalists/film makers and the ambulance staff needed a police escort. If you don’t want to believe you won’t.

Sorry Kizzy but you are either being deliberately provocative or you are living in your own little utopia where migrants are all innocent victims feeling persecution. If you say so! Meanwhile ...

By the way because rape isn’t considered rape in their own countries it is not justification. Women shouldn’t have to be raped because men from such cultures don’t recognise force as rape. You do know that’s because they don’t believe women have any rights ! Seriously!

Brillopad · 05-07-2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IF they were fleeing for their lives ,they would stay in the 1st safe country they land in, instead of laying on lorry axels to get to the land of milk, honey and giros .... The UK

Exactly Chuff. Funny how all the countries they aim for are known to provide many freebies such as benefits and healthcare. Simple coincidence we are supposed to believe.

Kizzy · 05-07-2018, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

I believe my own ears and eyes. You are welcome to believe the Swedish government who do have a reason to save face. Like Merkel they made the wrong decision taking so many migrants and they are embarassed about admitting it.

For someone who generally seems to be anti-establishment your willingness to believe this particular government when it suits is highly amusing.

You've seen nothing with your own ears and eyes...

I'm anti this government is all brillo, I could turn that back on you if our govt is so fantastic and everything they do and say gospel why would you have such a hard time believing the Swedish government?

There statement was a full and frank explanation of the current issues they face... Why is that not acceptable for you? :/

kirklancaster · 05-07-2018, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think you'll find that on the topic of religion across serious debates over the last year there has been a clear agenda shown from yourself and another member.

Look back across the threads and that will be shown to be a fact.

I wasn't even on here for most of the past year. So check your facts before keep posting tripe.

chuff me dizzy · 05-07-2018, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

Exactly Chuff. Funny how all the countries they aim for are known to provide many freebies such as benefits and healthcare. Simple coincidence we are supposed to believe.

They risk getting killed to come here for one thing only and its not their safety its for handouts .. Parasites !