[Vanessa]

But has a problem with Ryan doing the same thing

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But has a problem with Ryan doing the same thing

So just because your partner touches your genitials makes it acceptable for anyone to touch them at leisure?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kingston

So just because your partner touches your genitials makes it acceptable for anyone to touch them at leisure?

What?Who touched her genitals?

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by kingston

So just because your partner touches your genitials makes it acceptable for anyone to touch them at leisure?

Bens not her partner though?..

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Bens not her partner though?..

Exactly.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It wasn't a sexual touch.

It’s still unwelcomed behaviour... It could literally be anything... In terms of this situation the actual act is irrellevent... If you want to talk about double standards you’re doing exactly that... Saying one type of unwelcomed behaviour is acceptable over another just because one is “sexual” and the other is not...

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Bens not her partner though?..

Whether he is or not isn’t relevant...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

It’s still unwelcomed behaviour... It could literally be anything... In terms of this situation the actual act is irrellevent... If you want to talk about double standards you’re doing exactly that... Saying one type of unwelcomed behaviour is acceptable over another just because one is “sexual” and the other is not...



Whether he is or not isn’t relevant...

But she's perfectly OK with Ben rubbing his foot on her back.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But she's perfectly OK with Ben rubbing his foot on her back.

Again just because touching is acceptable from one person does not mean it’s welcomed from everyone...

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by kingston

It’s still unwelcomed behaviour... It could literally be anything... In terms of this situation the actual act is irrellevent... If you want to talk about double standards you’re doing exactly that... Saying one type of unwelcomed behaviour is acceptable over another just because one is “sexual” and the other is not...



Whether he is or not isn’t relevant...

Then she should stop playing around like some 12 year old after eating too many sweets...you can't have your cake and eat it.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Then she should stop playing around like some 12 year old after eating too many sweets...you can't have your cake and eat it.

What are you talking about? If you’re trying to slut shame Roxanne isn’t not going to happen... Just because someone acts a particular way does not imply they are “asking for it”...

[joeysteele]

Indeed.
She's pathetic.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Indeed.
She's pathetic.

Victim shaming is just as pathetic...

[Vanessa]

Clearly she thinks it's ok if you fancy them

[Vanessa]

Roxanne isn't a victim. She manipulated the situation to try and get Ryan out. Getting rid of the competition. She's so silly she can't even see that the real competition is Kristy.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Roxanne isn't a victim. She manipulated the situation to try and get Ryan out. Getting rid of the competition. She's so silly she can't even see that the real competition is Kristy.

I fail to see how she is “manipulating” the situation... It’s also not as if she just picked Ryan at random... There is video proof that he came at her in a manner that made her uncomfortable...

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Roxanne isn't a victim. She manipulated the situation to try and get Ryan out. Getting rid of the competition. She's so silly she can't even see that the real competition is Kristy.

Roxanne has never liked Ryan in her life , she's so transparent with what she's doing and i hope both her & Jermaine get the lowest votes now on friday!!!. As annoying as Ryan is he DOESN'T deserve this and i actually hope he gets to the final now just to SPITE HER as she's clearly trying to get him kicked out . Wow what a hypocritical fool she is. She's really trying to play the victim when we all know she's aware of the camera's and everything is a soap to her .

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Clearly she thinks it's ok if you fancy them

It’s normal for people to set their own boundaries... The criteria is irrelevant...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

It’s normal for people to set their own boundaries... The criteria is irrelevant...

It's the same thing.

[Amy Jade]

She can set whatever boundaries she wants with whoever she wants. I think tonight she was out of order but to basically say well she does this with one person why not another is ridiculous.

If she is comfortable to play fight with one person doesn't mean she is obliged to do the same with another person. My 7 year old cousin grabs me on the leg and runs away and I chase him. By the standard set on here I should be fine with a stranger grabbing me too because I let somebody I am comfortable with do it.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

She can set whatever boundaries she wants with whoever she wants. I think tonight she was out of order but to basically say well she does this with one person why not another is ridiculous.

If she is comfortable to play fight with one person doesn't mean she is obliged to do the same with another person. My 7 year old cousin grabs me on the leg and runs away and I chase him. By the standard set on here I should be fine with a stranger grabbing me too because I let somebody I am comfortable with do it.

But he's not a stranger.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But he's not a stranger.

Irrelevant.

Just because you know somebody doesn't mean they can put their hands on you at their own choosing. If the man who serves you in tesco regularly saw you hug your friend is it ok for him to then throw his arms around you?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Irrelevant.

Just because you know somebody doesn't mean they can put their hands on you at their own choosing. If the man who serves you in tesco regularly saw you hug your friend is it ok for him to then throw his arms around you?

It was just playfighting, something she does all the time herself. Hardly hugging her?

[Vanessa]

When even DS is backing you, that says everything. Roxanne has sealed her own fate. She won't win now.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It was just playfighting, something she does all the time herself. Hardly hugging her?

It was just hugging. You hugged your friend so the bloke from tesco you speak to a few times a week can hug you whenever he wants.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

She can set whatever boundaries she wants with whoever she wants. I think tonight she was out of order but to basically say well she does this with one person why not another is ridiculous.

If she is comfortable to play fight with one person doesn't mean she is obliged to do the same with another person. My 7 year old cousin grabs me on the leg and runs away and I chase him. By the standard set on here I should be fine with a stranger grabbing me too because I let somebody I am comfortable with do it.

Ryan isn't a stranger...she knows him through the industry and she's been living with him for over 2 weeks...hardly a stranger is he?