[arista]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

arista, that has got nothing to do with my post and you are way too clever to pretend a bunch of photographs hold the truth. You know and I know that well collected data is the source. So before anyone thinks there are "a lot" of criminals on these boats, there better be some back up for it. We are talking about people here.

Yes we can not afford them.
France is far bigger than the UK
you must house them
give them jobs (that you do not like)


And we will, in the end,
pay
France for every Illegal we return
(Future Plan)

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the weather and in times before they stowed away on lorries but that now has been stopped so the easy way for the traffickers is boats

and lets not pretend this is a criminal racket using gullible people who have been hoodwinked by criminals gangs

but the people on the boats do know they are also breaking uk LAW

Yes, that makes sense.

[Captain.Remy]

When did I deny that some come here to cause crime? I asked for data to back up the "A lot of".

Again, the "a lot of" is subjective compared to total illegal immigrants that are stopped at the borders.
And again, "Albanian nationals make up the largest number of foreign national offenders in UK prisons, totalling 16% of the foreign national offenders (FNO) population." A part of it probably entered the UK with a legal status. So we're not just talking about illegal immigration here. Again, not saying it does not exist but let's try to be more neutral.

Also, the "if you were that desperate that you would stop at the first safe country you arrived at." act is tired. You don't know these people. You don't live their lives. They risk their lives to get to UK for a reason, possibly because of the language or because they already have family there. Don't try to put yourself in their shoes giving uncoherent advice.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes we can not afford them.
France is far bigger than the UK
you must house them
give them jobs (that you do not like)


And we will, in the end,
pay
France for every Illegal we return
(Future Plan)

It's not France's fault UK is more attractive than France in those people's eyes. You should be grateful about it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

It's not France's fault UK is more attractive than France in those people's eyes. You should be grateful about it.

Yes but in the Future
we will Pay France for every Illegal we return on the same day.



It is the only way to solve this
France sets a fee per illegal we return.


A new Agreement
First of its kind.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes but in the Future
we will Pay France for every Illegal we return on the same day.



It is the only way to solve this
France sets a fee per illegal we return.


A new Agreement
First of its kind.

You know damn well this is never happening in the long run, especially if Marine Le Pen is elected President in 2022. Again, France is giving no **** about this topic because you left the EU. I'm not defending them or whatever, but it's just stone cold truth.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

You know damn well this is never happening in the long run, especially if Marine Le Pen is elected President in 2022. Again, France is giving no **** about this topic because you left the EU. I'm not defending them or whatever, but it's just stone cold truth.

Yes we left the Corrupt EU.


We pay France Ł54million
they in turn are now increasing Police Patrols
as they have funding.

Get Up-to-Date Capt.Remy.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes we left the Corrupt EU.


We pay France Ł54million
they in turn are now increasing Police Patrols
as they have funding.

Get Up-to-Date Capt.Remy.

Trust that I am up to date on the topic arista. It's just that the French clearly don't care.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Trust that I am up to date on the topic arista. It's just that the French clearly don't care.

Of Course
but this Money
is not for French People

It's for the French Port Police.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by arista

Of Course
but this Money
is not for French People

It's for the French Port Police.

Which in its name indicates it's French, arista.

[Cherie]

The French don't care about people paying people traffickers so they risk their lives in a dinghy crossing a busy shipping lane, is that what you are saying Remy?

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The French don't care about people paying people traffickers so they risk their lives in a dinghy crossing a busy shipping lane, is that what you are saying Remy?

They consider it's not their problem anymore since the migrants want to go to the UK otherwise they clearly would have done something about it.
They don't want another Calais situation because it has been traumatizing to French people and Macron considers he has enough to deal with migrants crossing borders from Italy and Spain.
And clearly the French authorities are not doing much because this is payback for Brexit and the disputes about fishing. Sibling rivalry in some ways.

Anyway, I hope the ones who arrived today are healthy and hopefully will live a happier life moving forward

[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

They consider it's not their problem anymore since the migrants want to go to the UK otherwise they clearly would have done something about it.
They don't want another Calais situation because it has been traumatizing to French people and Macron considers he has enough to deal with migrants crossing borders from Italy and Spain.
And clearly the French authorities are not doing much because this is payback for Brexit and the disputes about fishing. Sibling rivalry in some ways.

Anyway, I hope the ones who arrived today are healthy and hopefully will live a happier life moving forward

So the French really don’t care whether they or die, because they are pissed about Brexit okay got it

What about the ones who don’t arrive happy and healthy, worth it to get one over on the UK it seems

[parmnion]

I would send navy ships to france, and ask everyone to come to the boat, then vet everyone who has boarded, carry them all back to the uk, and then make a decision..

2 boats like tilbury and woolwich..

Anyone trying to cross on a dingy afterword, should be judged as terrorist like.

[arista]

A Detention Centre in France
another possible idea

We could fund that.

Live debate Ian Dale LBC AM



Borders are Essential

[LeatherTrumpet]

great words

Youtube video

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by arista

A Detention Centre in France
another possible idea

We could fund that.

Live debate Ian Dale LBC AM



Borders are Essential

I agree with borders.

RE - Detention centre..... well, if it was run properly and didn't breach human rights act....I watched something on netflix, can't remember what it was called now. A detention centre in australia and it was shocking.

[arista]

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

[bitontheslide]

the rnli are a charity that save people in peril on the sea. I spent time on a life boat once, i had first hand experience of what they do, and i will never hear a bad word said about them

[arista]

Another Load of Illegal Migrants
were brought into to Dover today
Over 50.

[arista]

Total for Yesterday
284 Illegal migrants

[arista]

SkyNewsHD
just reported 482
illegal migrants reached Dover
yesterday.

https://news.sky.com/story/record-da...esday-12373253

[LeatherTrumpet]

Migrants in taxpayer-funded hotels not having quarantine enforced

Asylum seekers tell The Telegraph they are allowed to leave their hotels and go shopping,
all while supposedly confined to rooms



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...tine-enforced/

A BLOODY JOKE