[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

exactly



little do they know what the real agenda of those behind brexit is

less "inconvenient" regulation from the EU like labour or environment protections

not to mention financial services and tax laws

Migrants from outside of the EU are also more likely to accept low pay and poor working conditions / fewer rights.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

TS not every Brexit voter
is on about immigration.
it is about being Sovereign, for many.

What does that mean? We're already sovereign.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What does that mean? We're already sovereign.

Meaning not under any Control from the EU

[Twosugars]

nobody is fully sovereign these days,
any international treaty and law reduces sovereignty

so let's watch UK extracting itself from the EU and binding itself to some new treaties like free trade agreements etc

the fact that you can't exist fully sovereign is well illustrated by the apparent necessity of keeping many arrangements with the EU and others

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

nobody is fully sovereign these days,
any international treaty and law reduces sovereignty

so let's watch UK extracting itself from the EU and binding itself to some new treaties like free trade agreements etc

the fact that you can't exist fully sovereign is well illustrated by the apparent necessity of keeping many arrangements with the EU and others

Sure
its a mess.

Back on topic
there are now 2 boat cutters in the waters.
Trying to send back the illegals.

[Toy Soldier]

The thread isn't off topic, it's debating immigration.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The thread isn't off topic, it's debating immigration.

The Illegal ones , though

[Nicky91]

we in the EU aren't doing anything wrong, it is the UK who is never liked, never popular in the entire world, and this brexit makes UK more look like a bunch of fools, and i think USA won't help UK cause they have their own problems, but enough about that right now

back on topic, immigration well they need to go somewhere away from that chaos in their own countries tbh

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

we in the EU aren't doing anything wrong, it is the UK who is never liked, never popular in the entire world, and this brexit makes UK more look like a bunch of fools, and i think USA won't help UK cause they have their own problems, but enough about that right now

back on topic, immigration well they need to go somewhere away from that chaos in their own countries tbh

can you explain what countries and what chaos?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

can you explain what countries and what chaos?

syrian conflict for example

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

syrian conflict for example

Then I guess it's lucky they were in France, no reason to risk their lives in the boats.

[parmnion]

How come if a human is in the channel its ours, but if its a fish its the eu's?

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

How come if a human is in the channel its ours, but if its a fish its the eu's?

Yes set up years ago.

[arista]

Man arrested after 8 Illegal migrants land on Kent coast in inflatable boat, today


https://news.sky.com/story/five-migr...beach-11601168








8 more Illegal migrants detained after
empty dinghy found on Kent beach today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-46782389

[arista]

Also:
[Illegal immigrant arrested after being
found stowing away on school trip coach
A man was found inside a school's coach
after it arrived back in Wiltshire
from a ski trip in the French Alps.]

https://news.sky.com/story/suspected...coach-11601302

[arista]

[Driver held after 27 Illegal Migrants found
in lorry on the M6, forcing the
motorway to close
Motorists had been urged to avoid
the area, with Highways England
reporting delays of 90 minutes]



https://news.sky.com/story/police-se...ident-11603101

[The lorry was stopped by Staffordshire Police
between junctions 15 and 16 at
around 5.15pm on Wednesday.]

Lorry Driver
getting extra Cash?

[arista]

Today a Total of 16 more illegal migrants have reached the UK.
Mostly men all saying they are Iranians.

https://news.sky.com/story/18-suspec...dings-11612650

[arista]

This time 6 illegal men came out of lorry.
That lorry Firm will get a big Fine.


[The Met Police detained 6 Illegal men at Corbets Tey Road,
Upminster, at around 14:30 GMT.
The men were transferred to
Home Office immigration officers. ]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47019947

[arista]

Another 10 Illegals
have just been picked up by a UK ship
now taken to Dover.

https://news.sky.com/story/up-to-19-...urces-11641197

[Oliver_W]

I just don't understand why they're being taken to Dover instead of back to France?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I just don't understand why they're being taken to Dover instead of back to France?

Yes
Maybe the French will not take them back
though.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I just don't understand why they're being taken to Dover instead of back to France?

because they have to be processed before sending them back. If they didn't do so there would be no record of their illegal attempt to enter the UK

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

because they have to be processed before sending them back. If they didn't do so there would be no record of their illegal attempt to enter the UK

Why can't that processing be to just record how many people they drop off in Calais (or wherever)?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Why can't that processing be to just record how many people they drop off in Calais (or wherever)?

if you attempt to enter illegally then you get an instant ban on any legal attempts for a period of years. So they need their details. Also, if they try illegally again and get in, there is at least some record of them being there illegally with finger prints etc.

[Twosugars]

Read somewhere that this first safe country business is an EU thing, called the Dublin agreement. So I guess Britain will be out of that after brexit.