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arista · 25-01-2019, 04:48 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47008099

Newsnight political editor @nicholaswatt

[Andrea Leadsom has said that the EU may be prepared to grant the UK a "couple of extra weeks" beyond the 29 March deadline
to finalise preparations for Brexit.
The Commons leader said that in light of the UK's strong relationship with its "EU friends",
the UK could be allowed more time for an approved deal to pass all its parliamentary stages.]

Withano · 25-01-2019, 05:10 PM

Careful of the snowflakes this winter guys

bitontheslide · 25-01-2019, 05:29 PM

don't see that happening, a couple of weeks arent going to change anything

Toy Soldier · 25-01-2019, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

don't see that happening, a couple of weeks arent going to change anything

Unless "a couple of weeks" becomes "a couple of months" etc etc

Cherie · 25-01-2019, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Unless "a couple of weeks" becomes "a couple of months" etc etc

Wouldn't surprise me at all

Northern Monkey · 26-01-2019, 02:01 PM

TBH it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen.Parliament will vote everything down until they get another referendum and probably won’t stop until they get the result they want.
Parliament vs The People Parliament will always win.The people are powerless.

Tom4784 · 26-01-2019, 03:04 PM

Nothing is going to get sorted any time soon so I'd say take the extra time, if no deal is the only option then I believe that there was to be another referendum on a no deal scenario. If people are happy for it to go ahead then we go ahead, if not then MPs have to look into another deal or other options.

People wanted this brexit, now that we're faced with the worst case scenario, the same people should get the chance to choose their fate.

LeatherTrumpet · 26-01-2019, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

TBH it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen.Parliament will vote everything down until they get another referendum and probably won’t stop until they get the result they want.
Parliament vs The People Parliament will always win.The people are powerless.

pretty much

Its like the boy who owns the ball plays next goal the winner over and over till he wins

LeatherTrumpet · 26-01-2019, 03:21 PM

Brussels should be careful what it wishes for - resistance from Britain will be hell if it keeps us in

There is, at five minutes to midnight, a glimmering of hope. The European Union might possibly, just maybe, conceivably be about to relent over the Irish backstop, which is the insuperable obstacle to reaching any sort of remotely acceptable agreement.

Judging by the confused and contradictory messages emerging from the previously implacable Fortress Brussels, you might almost think that they had given up on their blood pact with our own Remain fifth column. Perhaps they have concluded that Project Kill-the-whole-thing-off – frustrating any attempt to reach a plausible agreement so that in the end, with a whimper of exhaustion, we just give up the silly idea of leaving – might be a dead duck.

Take, for example, some of the the recent, blessed indications that the rational people who actually run EU operations regard a No Deal outcome as something other than an apocalyptic end-of-days. Xavier Bertrand, who administers the crucial French ports across the Channel, said as much in pretty categorical terms last week: we are confidently ready for that eventuality on our side so if you guys in the UK can get yourselves together, where’s the problem?

There are even hints of splits higher up, with the political leaders of some member states apparently suggesting that – contrary to those bloodcurdling threats from the EU Commission – in the event of No Deal, UK hauliers and airlines should continue to have the same rights to operate within the EU as they do now for the indefinite future. Fancy that. At last, everybody – or quite a few people anyway – is starting to talk sense. Could there be something more to this than just making the best of a very bad situation?

Remainers would almost certainly argue that this is nothing more than damage limitation. The French ports are anxious to assure us that they will be able to compete with rival facilities on the European coastline and the Spanish do not want their hugely lucrative British tourist trade to collapse due to restrictions on cheap air travel. So they are taking the necessary practical steps and urging their negotiators not to drive so hard a bargain that it damages their interests irreparably. But given a choice, surely all the various parties would really be much happier if we could be persuaded, with however much coercion is necessary, to stay in?

Well, I wonder. Is it possible that the more comprehending brains in the EU outfit might have come to another quite startling conclusion?

Maybe they have got over their initial shock at the visceral and unrelenting determination of the British to persevere with their resolve to leave, even in the face of the most deafening orchestrated campaign to terrorise them into submission, the sheer, absurd crassness of which has taken so many of us by surprise. (Leo Varadkar wins this week’s prize for gross irresponsibility with his assertion that No Deal could mean an “army presence” at the Irish border, a hysterical claim which, given Ulster’s tragic history, truly beggars belief.)

So could it be that, having looked at this phenomenon and contemplated its consequences, those sensible EU officials and heads of state might be thinking: is this plan of threatening and blackmailing and conniving with a black ops, back channel political campaign to keep the British locked into a system they now hate more than ever, really such a great idea? Never mind the possible damage that could be done by the UK coming out of the club. What kind of hell could they create for us if we succeed in making them stay in it?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...n-will-hellif/

Nicky91 · 26-01-2019, 03:32 PM

the spanish, well they get more than enough income via our dutch tourists every summer anyway, Ibiza is one of the popular holiday destinations for the dutch to go to

army presence at irish border so not necessary and also that would bring back the awful times when the irish were scared of the IRA

LeatherTrumpet · 26-01-2019, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

the spanish, well they get more than enough income via our dutch tourists every summer anyway, Ibiza is one of the popular holiday destinations for the dutch to go to

army presence at irish border so not necessary and also that would bring back the awful times when the irish were scared of the IRA

What if the IRA scare all the Dutch tourists from Ibiza?

then what?

Nicky91 · 26-01-2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What if the IRA scare all the Dutch tourists from Ibiza?

then what?

IRA aren't really that active anymore, only threat we got to worry about is from ISIL

army presence at that irish border makes me wonder, are people in UK worried of an invasion into their UK, cause realistically i don't think that is gonna happen, no army please cause people in ireland don't need to live being afraid

LeatherTrumpet · 26-01-2019, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

IRA aren't really that active anymore, only threat we got to worry about is from ISIL

army presence at that irish border makes me wonder, are people in UK worried of an invasion into their UK, cause realistically i don't think that is gonna happen, no army please cause people in ireland don't need to live being afraid

not active? they detonated a bomb the other day

Nicky91 · 26-01-2019, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

not active? they detonated a bomb the other day

yeah but more likely or at least i think they felt triggered bc of the brexit thing, and talks of the irish border in case of a no deal scenario

Niamh. · 26-01-2019, 04:41 PM

Leo is spot on

LeatherTrumpet · 26-01-2019, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

yeah but more likely or at least i think they felt triggered bc of the brexit thing, and talks of the irish border in case of a no deal scenario

I still think you and your family should avoid the White Island of Ibiza just in case

Alf · 26-01-2019, 05:10 PM

We're not leaving. We told you before the referendum that if we won, then the result would be ignored. Us little people are no match for our masters, especially when they've divided us in two, and half of the people have give up on us and not only surrendered to the un-elected, but are actually fighting their battles for them.

Alf · 26-01-2019, 05:24 PM

All of our brave people who fought for our freedom in 2 world wars have been sh! t on by our generations. We're weak selfish bastards that has had our head turned by the Marxists. We've failed our country.