[Glenn.]

Just found this

On one level, the UK’s sovereign law making powers, centred on its Parliament, are challenged by its membership of the European Union, as the UK is constrained in its actions by the agreements it has entered into and laws made under the EU Treaties. These laws have primacy over the laws of the member states.

However, this pooling of sovereignty, and restriction on Parliament’s powers has been voluntarily entered into by the UK. Indeed, parliamentary sovereignty is seen still to apply as it is an Act of Parliament that gives EU law its force in the UK. Parliament could revoke that law – though that would leave the UK in breach of the terms of EU membership


So that means we can’t make our own laws without breaching the terms of our EU Membership? Yes?

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

People voted to leave the European Union. Literally that what was voted for. It’s parliament that ****ed it up

Theresa May ****ed it up by creating ridiculous red lines for herself in the negotiations and refusing to compromise even after she lost her majority.

[Glenn.]

Tezza standing strong and stable

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Smithy

What the ****

You can’t even compare the two

If remain had won the referendum, life would have carried on as normal, there would have been a month maybe 6 weeks of leavers moaning.

Fact of the matter is leave won with no idea of how to actually leave, they won based on lies. People didn’t know what they were voting for when they voted leave and now people are waking up to the realization it’s a **** show and that’s why they want a second vote

This to a tea really.

You can't force nearly half the country into a massive change like pulling out of the EU without proper planning when these said people didn't want to leave. It's basic democracy.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbf it's a sensible suggestion given the fact that it's gonna have a massive impact on everybody's lives in this country.

As I've already said you can't have nearly half the country being forced into a hard Brexit when they didn't even want a soft Brexit.

The UK isn't a democracy if Hard Brexit is the outcome when the people didn't even vote for it.

[Glenn.]

‘Nearly half’

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

If remain won the referendum and leavers were crying out for another vote the remoaners would be singing a completely different tune. Fact.

Exactly...I wont be changing my vote but I will be pissed off bigtime if we have another referendum..just a bunch of sore losers.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf it's a sensible suggestion given the fact that it's gonna have a massive impact on everybody's lives in this country.

As I've already said you can't have nearly half the country being forced into a hard Brexit when they didn't even want a soft Brexit.

The UK isn't a democracy if Hard Brexit is the outcome when the people didn't even vote for it.

[Smithy]

Where did LT go, I thought he was teaching us about Scotland making bank notes and banks

[Marsh.]

"You can't leave the EU, when some people voted to remain in the EU".

Ok Mock.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

‘Nearly half’

48.4% Voted for Remain whilst 51.6% voted for Brexit without no clarification what type of Brexit the people were voting for out of Soft and Hard Brexit.

Imo we should at least have a second Referendum on what type of Brexit that we're gonna go for considering the Government has no idea what it wants to do going forward.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I've only stated a fact.

Do you honestly believe that this would be the end of it if the result was the other way around? No and rightly so.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

"You can't leave the EU, when some people voted to remain in the EU".

Ok Mock.

It's more than some, you're just being contrary for the sake of it here.

It's not a proper democracy if nearly half the country is against a massive change in how the country is run, and an extreme form of Brexit happens which nobody voted for, or are you gonna argue about that as well?

It's common sense what I'm saying here, it's a discussion that can't be resolved until either side has formed a bigger majority imo.

[Cherie]

The problem I have with leaving the EU, is that the UK will be leaving a huge trading block with all the advantages that brings and the buying power, and trading independently with the USA, China, India, who will dictate the terms...it will not put the UK on the front foot far from it, so out of the frying pan into the fire it seems ... and as for making their own laws the government in power will make the laws.....the laws that were any good, like workers and disability rights were made by the EU......

[Cherie]

you told the 'government' what you wanted.. are they doing it? wait until they have complete control...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's common sense what I'm saying here

Ok Mock.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Ok Mock.

So you what would you do in this situation then? Because apparently pissing off over 48% of the country with Hard Brexit is okay by you then by the fact that my suggestion of how to do a second referendum is crazy to you I'm gathering.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

So you what would you do in this situation then? Because apparently pissing over 48% of the country with Hard Brexit is okay by you then by the fact that my suggestion of how to do a second referendum is crazy to you I'm gathering.

Ok Mock.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

So you what would you do in this situation then? Because apparently pissing off over 48% of the country with Hard Brexit is okay by you then by the fact that my suggestion of how to do a second referendum is crazy to you I'm gathering.

It’s not 48% of the country, it’s 48% of the people who voted

It’s over half of the country

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Ok Mock.

Have you been hacked or something? At least debate your point as to why this very referendum should go ahead without question considering you don't think that there should be a second referendum to stay in the EU, or that there shouldn't be a vote between which Brexit we should have out of Soft or Hard Brexit.

I mean they're the two points I've put forward and the only posts that you've come with so far is mocking a factual point that I've put up, putting up a facepalm emoji, and repeatedly typing ok Mock in your last couple of replies to me.

It's not exactly a great endorsement as to why my points are invalid and why your points are to be respected imo, but I suppose we all see things differently.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Smithy

It’s not 48% of the country, it’s 48% of the people who voted

It’s over half of the country

I agree with what you're saying.

But in fairness the majority of Remainers either couldn't vote due to their age, or couldn't be bothered to vote so I've just gone with the statistics.

[Glenn.]

We’d manage whatever Brexit we get. We managed just fine before we were members of the EU

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

We’d manage whatever Brexit we get. We managed just fine before we were members of the EU

The world has moved on since the 70s

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

We’d manage whatever Brexit we get. We managed just fine before we were members of the EU

This kind of ignorance is honestly overwhelming, things have changed since then

[Cherie]

I heard some bloke on the radio the other day saying we planted potatoes in our back gardens and shot rabbits in the fields....yes we really want to go there...