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Old 17-07-2019, 07:01 PM #1
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Default A question...it regards blacks and whites (please debate your responses)

If black humans are going to a party that involves fancy dress, say an 80s party or something...do they white up like white humans black thier faces up for bob marley or stevie wonder?

I think white humans love black humans music so don't see an issue with making yourself look more like your musical idol of the 80s.


I think black humans don't need to whiten thier faces to look like thier musical icons from the 80s....because black humans have better musical taste than white humans.

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White people were not kidnapped from their own countries and force to live as a slave who was worth nothing in a foreign land.

That is why its unacceptable to act be black for fancy dress
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White people were not kidnapped from their own countries and force to live as a slave who was worth nothing in a foreign land.

That is why its unacceptable to act be black for fancy dress
I think that is absolutely ridiculous...in this day and age.


You are saying a bloke can't sit in the corner off a marquee at an 80s party all bob marleyed up cause he loves bob marley music!

Surely that is why we have divisions in life.

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I think that is absolutely ridiculous.


You are saying a bloke can't sit in the corner off a marquee at an 80s party all bob marleyed up cause he loves bob marley music!

Surely that is why we have divisions in life.
You dont blackface because you love some singer you buy a poster or a CD or something
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White people were not kidnapped from their own countries and force to live as a slave who was worth nothing in a foreign land.
Slaves of the Ottoman empire might beg to differ.
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You dont blackface because you love some singer you buy a poster or a CD or something
And wander around an 80s party for your cousins 18th or something. ..hey guys I'm bob marley, can't you tell by the tshirt! !
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And wander around an 80s party for your cousins 18th or something. ..hey guys I'm bob marley, can't you tell by the tshirt! !
You can dress up as Bob Marley without black facing
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White people were not kidnapped from their own countries and force to live as a slave who was worth nothing in a foreign land.

That is why its unacceptable to act be black for fancy dress
Several countries in northern Africa kidnapped and used white slaves, so is it unacceptable for black people from those countries to white up?
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1) Yes it's different and anyone claiming not to realise that is either being disingenuous "to make some sort of point", or they are genuinely stupid. I think for most it's the former but who knows.

2) Other than the movie "white chicks" which is obviously a parody of blackface, I have literally NEVER seen any black person "doing whiteface". Why are people making up just utterly laughable nonsense to justify their **** lately?
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1) Yes it's different and anyone claiming not to realise that is either being disingenuous "to make some sort of point", or they are genuinely stupid. I think for most it's the former but who knows.

2) Other than the movie "white chicks" which is obviously a parody of blackface, I have literally NEVER seen any black person "doing whiteface". Why are people making up just utterly laughable nonsense to justify their **** lately?
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1) Yes it's different and anyone claiming not to realise that is either being disingenuous "to make some sort of point", or they are genuinely stupid. I think for most it's the former but who knows.

2) Other than the movie "white chicks" which is obviously a parody of blackface, I have literally NEVER seen any black person "doing whiteface". Why are people making up just utterly laughable nonsense to justify their **** lately?
There's nothing racist abut going dressed up to a relatives 80s party with a bit of make up on your face because you love a certain music icon..it's stupid to me to think otherwise if I'm honest..
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Blackface is bad and that's that
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There's nothing racist abut going dressed up to a relatives 80s party with a bit of make up on your face because you love a certain music icon..it's stupid to me to think otherwise if I'm honest..
somethingsomething slavery, somethingsomething minstrels ...
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Not if it's done through a lifetime of love surely!!


I don't get that if it is.
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Anyone who thinks blackface "isn't racist" clearly isn't knowledgeable enough to start a debate about blackface
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Oh look uncle dave came as Bob Marley. ...I hope he dies tomorrow.
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Nonsense....


Dressing as Bob Marley isn't blackfacing...
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If you're genuinely trying to convince me that people are going to fancy dress blacked up as Bob Marley as an act of admiration and respect, and not for a cheap laugh, again I'm going to have to call bull**** Parm. You know fine well people would only be doing it for "shock value" and that people don't black up for any other reason. It just doesn't happen. We're prancing around in fantasy land again.

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It’s always fascinated me because I think the majority of people that do ‘blackface’ don’t know any better or are just ignorant. I don’t for one second believe most are racist at all, maybe uneducated on the matter or not knowing people can take offence.

I’ve always wondered why it is as offensive as it is perceived to be, i understand the associations and Past, but it’s like men dressing as women/drag, you can argue that women had it rough and were used/raped/had little rights pre history and yet this is fine? It’s an interesting thought

Also painting parts of your face black isn’t always ‘blackface’, I’ve gone as the angel of death a few times for Halloween that involved putting black paint over a good portion of my face. The angel of death isn’t a race, it’s a mythological creature that I was dressing up as. If people saw me and took a photo would I be regarded racist by some when clearly I’m not/I’m just in fancy dress, with nothing to do with race
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It’s always fascinated me because I think the majority of people that do ‘blackface’ don’t know any better or are just ignorant. I don’t for one second believe most are racist at all, maybe uneducated on the matter or not knowing people can take offence.

I’ve always wondered why it is as offensive as it is sort of thing, i understand the associations and Past, but it’s like men dressing as women/drag, you can argue that women had it rough and were used/raped/had little rights pre history and yet this is fine? It’s an interesting thought
Because people use to blackface then mock black people in comedy years ago and that's why its deemed racist
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