[The Slim Reaper]

Interesting series started on BBC last night, about the rise of the Nazi's into power and how a democracy can move into authoritarianism within a short period of time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...e-of-the-nazis

[arista]

Can a Good Mod please put
this thread in the TV Section

Or Admin , if they have time

[The Slim Reaper]

It's a topic for debate as well as to watch. A good mod will know it needs to stay where it is.


PS Hitler was a celebrity.

[arista]

Its a TV Series on BBC2HD

You are Wrong

[Nicky91]

i agree with Slim, since basically it can relate back to some of today's extreme far right groups

greeks golden dawn party are nazi's, they are out of parliament there but that isn't stopping them in their desire to expand globally, so they should still be watched carefully and be stopped from growing bigger, they are murderers, proof = anyone who is against them will be murdered by them, one greek rapper against the far right got shot dead by some of golden dawn's members

they want to expand globally, well these thugs you don't want in your country

so yeah i call their story also ''rise of the nazi's''

[Mystic Mock]

It is interesting to see how much more right wing this country has become within a space of a few years.

I'm not saying that all right wing people are Nazi's obviously, but it does appear like a lot of people in Parliament and in society in general are trying to push the bounds of how extremely right wing they can go before hitting the Nazi category.

I honestly don't think all hope is lost yet though, I'm hoping that the right wing of this country (our leaders at the moment) will see sense and learn to become more moderate again, rather than trying to be like Trump, Putin, or worse... Hitler.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Can a Good Mod please put
this thread in the TV Section

Or Admin , if they have time

I think it's also a topic of debate, it can stay

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think it's also a topic of debate, it can stay

[parmnion]

Lol.

So what's the debate here? The programme or the rise of nazism in the 20's and 30s?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It is interesting to see how much more right wing this country has become within a space of a few years.

I'm not saying that all right wing people are Nazi's obviously, but it does appear like a lot of people in Parliament and in society in general are trying to push the bounds of how extremely right wing they can go before hitting the Nazi category.

I honestly don't think all hope is lost yet though, I'm hoping that the right wing of this country (our leaders at the moment) will see sense and learn to become more moderate again, rather than trying to be like Trump, Putin, or worse... Hitler.

I agree with pretty much all of that apart from the hope that the rw leaders will see sense. Unfortunately, the conservatives have put themselves in an extreme position, and their support (not all, but an increasing chunk) is actually dependent on that section, emboldening the far right even further.

There is a westminster rally on Sat by a far right football supporters group and they were advertising it on twitter earlier as showing their support for Boris and the queen.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Lol.

So what's the debate here? The programme or the rise of nazism in the 20's and 30s?

"Trump is a literal nazi", or something...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Lol.

So what's the debate here? The programme or the rise of nazism in the 20's and 30s?

It's not either or, parm. Maybe you could watch it later and let us know your thoughts?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I agree with pretty much all of that apart from the hope that the rw leaders will see sense. Unfortunately, the conservatives have put themselves in an extreme position, and their support (not all, but an increasing chunk) is actually dependent on that section, emboldening the far right even further.

There is a westminster rally on Sat by a far right football supporters group and they were advertising it on twitter earlier as showing their support for Boris and the queen.

Well if that's the case, then we have to hope that the general public will swing towards Labour and get the Conservatives out of office if they can't afford to do their jobs properly.

I know that Corbyn will be a problem for a lot of people though.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

There is a westminster rally on Sat by a far right football supporters group and they were advertising it on twitter earlier as showing their support for Boris and the queen.

How does supporting the Prime Minister and the Queen mean someone is "far right"? Boris isn't, and she's apolitical.

You might want to expand on this story.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Lol.

So what's the debate here? The programme or the rise of nazism in the 20's and 30s?

Yes a new BBC2HD history series
nothing to do with 2019

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It's not either or, parm. Maybe you could watch it later and let us now your thoughts?

I watched it last night.

[Twosugars]

I think that now when most people who remembered the consequences of far right getting into power are dead theres a serious danger of repeating the whole thing.
The far right of today has the potential. And we see that some individuals are happy spouting nazi-like themes and narratives

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How does supporting the Prime Minister and the Queen mean someone is "far right"? Boris isn't, and she's apolitical.

You might want to expand on this story.

It doesn't, but the rally is organised by a far right football supporters group. You misunderstood what I meant; my opinion is that far right and right are becoming so inextricably linked that it's difficult to see daylight between them. When have you ever seen the far right promoting and supporting generic conservatives in the past? Now they are campaigning to support them.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How does supporting the Prime Minister and the Queen mean someone is "far right"? Boris isn't, and she's apolitical.

You might want to expand on this story.

I think the group must have a far right history, more than the Tweet itself being far right.

Although I would call Boris a dictator after his move against Parliament. Going onto a separate issue of course.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think the group must have a far right history, more than the Tweet itself being far right.

Although I would call Boris a dictator after his move against Parliament. Going onto a separate issue of course.

He is the PM/



This TV Series BBC2HD
is about EVIL HITLER
He was killing loads
no one could stop him at first.

Nothing to do with Parliament UK 2019

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

When have you ever seen the far right promoting and supporting generic conservatives in the past? Now they are campaigning to support them.

I don't know if they have, I ignore idiots like them when they're not being discussed.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

He is the PM/



This TV Series BBC2HD
is about EVIL HITLER
He was killing loads
no one could stop him at first.

Nothing to do with Parliament UK 2019

He wasnt considered evil to start with though was he.
British prime minister Neville Chamberlain cut a deal with him didn't he. He sold Czechoslovakia to him for a promise of peace. Not the finest moment was it.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't know if they have, I ignore idiots like them when they're not being discussed.

You carry on ignoring far right.
But some of us will not. Not while the far right got a foothold in governments around europe and america

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He wasnt considered evil to start with though was he.
British prime minister Neville Chamberlain cut a deal with him didn't he. He sold Czechoslovakia to him for a promise of peace. Not the finest moment was it.

same ''promise of peace'' the sovjets thought if they had poland in half with the nazi's, but Hitler wanted it all and that is hitler's biggest mistake because that was the turning point of sovjets joining the allied forces more or less against nazi's

if he left sovjets alone, we would've had a different story, perhaps outcome of WW2, so we're Lucky that Hitler became cocky, was too power hungry and stupid

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He wasnt considered evil to start with though was he.
British prime minister Neville Chamberlain cut a deal with him didn't he. He sold Czechoslovakia to him for a promise of peace. Not the finest moment was it.

Chamberlain trusted Hitler
making him the worst ever UK PM.

He was Evil at the start
murdering in secret