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29-10-2019, 03:23 PM | #1 | ||
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Lawyers for family say Trump administration tried to ‘twist’ immunity law for US diplomat
The family of a 19-year-old motorcyclist killed in a crash involving the wife of a US diplomat have announced they are planning to sue the Trump administration for lawless misconduct and a cover-up. Harry Dunn’s family are also going ahead with previously announced plans to sue Anne Sacoolas for damages in a civil action. Lawyers for Sacoolas have admitted she was driving on the wrong side of the road before her car hit Dunn’s motorcycle on 27 August. She then left the UK against the wishes of the Foreign Office, claiming diplomatic immunity under a relatively obscure agreement covering RAF Croughton, where her husband worked, and the British government. The Dunn family’s lawyer, Radd Seiger, who left for the US on Sunday, made the announcement about the fresh legal action after instructing lawyers in the US. “We are bringing claims against both Mrs Sacoolas in the US for civil damages as well as the Trump administration for their lawless misconduct and attempt to cover that up,” he said in a statement. “No one is above the law and the family are determined to ensure that this never happens to another family again. It will be Harry’s memorial. His legacy.” Seiger claimed the US government had tried to “twist and contort the laws on diplomatic immunity”. He added: “The Trump administration is not only hellbent on breaking international laws, rules and conventions on diplomatic immunity, but they have no care or concern for the welfare of Harry’s family or any real intent on finding a solution.” The Dunn family have so far raised nearly £75,000 through a GoFundMe page, but the potential legal costs facing the family are mounting. The lawyers are also planning to take action against Northamptonshire police and have launched a claim for judicial review over the Foreign Office decision-making process. Trump tried to engineer an impromptu meeting between Dunn’s parents and Sacoolas when the family were granted an extraordinary meeting with the US president in the White House a fortnight ago. The Dunn family had been in New York to put pressure on Sacoolas to return to the UK to answer questions from Northamptonshire police. Seiger called the White House attempt to get the family and Sacoolas in the same room a “disgusting stunt”, adding: “President Trump told Harry’s mum, Charlotte, at the meeting that we would look to approach the problem from a different angle, but the family have heard no further and have no faith in his words.” The Dunn family’s cause has the political backing of the Labour party, which has called for a parliamentary inquiry. The shadow foreign secretary, Emily Thornberry, said: “It now looks increasingly clear that the foreign secretary and his officials have something to hide in terms of how they responded to this dreadful tragedy, why they allowed Anne Sacoolas to leave the country and why they delayed informing Harry Dunn’s family of her departure. “We also have to ask what matters more to Dominic Raab: the grief of a bereaved British family or the approval or a corrupt American president? “We need an urgent parliamentary inquiry to uncover who did what in this case, who took the decisions, when they were taken, and why." The Guardian Americans above the law in brexit Britain? Last edited by Twosugars; 29-10-2019 at 03:24 PM. |
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29-10-2019, 03:26 PM | #2 | |||
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Don't blame them tbh. I don't really know how diplomatic immunity works, but I roughly thought it was either for ambassadors (not their spouses) or people like secret services who need to eliminate someone.
Unless it turns out Dunn was a criminal operate and the woman specifically targeted him, sue the mofo. |
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06-11-2019, 06:12 PM | #3 | |||
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It's been said his injuries were not deemed life threatening by Emergency Call handlers despite breaking every major bone in his body
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He may have stood a better chance of surviving if he wasnt made to wait
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06-11-2019, 08:37 PM | #5 | ||
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06-11-2019, 08:54 PM | #6 | |||
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No but the caller receiver failed to document it as live threatening
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13-12-2021, 06:20 PM | #7 | |||
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The American Lady will be on a Video Link from USA. In the London Court. The Family need this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-59643750 [USA national Anne Sacoolas is to face magistrates in the UK charged with causing the death of motorcyclist Harry Dunn by dangerous driving. Mr Dunn, 19, died when his motorbike was in a crash with a car near RAF Croughton, Northamptonshire, on 27 August, 2019. The case would be heard at Westminster Magistrates' Court on 18 January, the Crown Prosecution Service said.] Last edited by arista; 13-12-2021 at 06:22 PM. |
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13-12-2021, 06:31 PM | #8 | ||
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Yes the family DO need this.
Glad to hear about this. |
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13-12-2021, 06:31 PM | #9 | |||
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So happy to hear this.
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13-12-2021, 06:44 PM | #10 | |||
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14-12-2021, 11:11 AM | #11 | |||
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Now her lawyers
have said no she will not appear on a screen Live. [Doubts have been raised over whether the US woman accused of killing the British teenager Harry Dunn in a car crash will participate in criminal proceedings in the UK. Prosecutors said that Anne Sacoolas will appear by video link in a London court next month in relation to the charge of causing death by dangerous driving, more than two years after she left Britain after the accident claiming diplomatic immunity.] From the Times. Last edited by arista; 14-12-2021 at 03:55 PM. |
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08-12-2022, 06:27 PM | #12 | |||
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Anne Sacoolas: Former US spy avoids jail over
death of teen motorcyclist Harry Dunn https://news.sky.com/story/anne-saco...-dunn-12764057 All that effort the Error killer USA lady walks away free. I knew this would happen. |
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08-12-2022, 06:41 PM | #13 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Seems strange the family is so ecstatic when she won't serve any jail time
Guess it's the best they could have hoped for |
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08-12-2022, 07:41 PM | #14 | |||
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Family spokesman Radd Seiger added: "Our real enemy here isn't Anne Sacoolas, our real enemy here is the US government."
That's a weird thing to say when it was Sacoolas that killed the son |
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08-12-2022, 07:55 PM | #15 | |||
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Yeah I was wondering why the suggestion was that they’d had a great victory yet the mother was clearly still very agitated and seething . Then their lawyer said something about the fight will go on … Are us taxpayers footings the bill for the £millions this case has already cost ? Anyone know ?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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08-12-2022, 07:57 PM | #16 | |||
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Yes and the judge said that IF she had come to court in person the sentence would be more lenient !!!? More lenient …. than NOT going to jail for murder ?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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08-12-2022, 08:10 PM | #17 | ||
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Awful judgement.
Just wrong. She tried for a good while to not even have to answer to this. This is a terrible judgement in my opinion. Far too lenient. |
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08-12-2022, 08:12 PM | #18 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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08-12-2022, 08:52 PM | #19 | |||
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🌈😈🌈👊🏾🌈👻🌈🫦🌈🔥🌈
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Get this queen on Im a Celeb. She can fly direct to australia to avoid nasty uk. We need to hear her side of the story.
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08-12-2022, 09:40 PM | #20 | ||
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08-12-2022, 10:16 PM | #21 | |||
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Appalling outcome….no surprise though.
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09-12-2022, 07:20 AM | #22 | |||
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A very very very lenient sentence. An insult to Harry and his family.
Makes a lot of people VERY angry. |
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