[parmnion]

I'm struggling for positivity.


help.

[thesheriff443]

Kizzy will help I’m sure.

[smudgie]

He got a lot of young people interested in politics.

[Kizzy]

No I won't baity mc baitface

[Oliver_W]

There doesn't need to be any positives All political voices are and should be welcome. It's up to the people to vote for them - or not. Brexit and Corbyn both have gotten more people - especially young people - interested and involved in politics than virtually anything else.

[Cherie]

He managed to turn a positive into a negative

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by smudgie

He got a lot of young people interested in politics.

FACT.

[Livia]

He got Brexit done. Inadvertently...

[Liam-]

He helped bring a lot of good, achievable, popular socialist policies to the forefront, he got a lot more people enthusiastic about voting and being a part of trying to make a change and he’s got everyone singing The White Stripes so, he’s a bit of a legend

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He helped bring a lot of good, achievable, popular socialist policies to the forefront, he got a lot more people enthusiastic about voting and being a part of trying to make a change and he’s got everyone singing The White Stripes so, he’s a bit of a legend

Until he got his arse handed to him, of course.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

Until he got his arse handed to him, of course.

He widened the Overton window, and brought discussions to the table which might not otherwise have been. Even if he and/or his policies were roundly rejected, they were discussed.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

Until he got his arse handed to him, of course.

I’m not quite sure what part of my post that’s aimed at

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

He widened the Overton window, and brought discussions to the table which might not otherwise have been. Even if he and/or his policies were roundly rejected, they were discussed.

I firmly believe that he's done the Labour party a lot of harm. Under a different leader they might have done better, won even. But they didn't listen. Corbyn supporters raised him to a Messiah like status... but they were the minority. It's a shame... even thought I'm not a Labour supporter the country runs better with a really strong opposition to stop the government going off half-cocked. Just my take of course....

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He helped bring a lot of good, achievable, popular socialist policies to the forefront, he got a lot more people enthusiastic about voting and being a part of trying to make a change and he’s got everyone singing The White Stripes so, he’s a bit of a legend

Also a fact.

[Liam-]

I think it’s a bit disingenuous to suggest their policies were rejected, they proved to be popular, but the Tories plaid the game very well and made sure brexit was the main focus of the election and that’s what lost labour the election, along with a swelling dislike of Corbyn, undoubtedly whipped up by the media assault on him

[Livia]

Yeah, yeah... it was everyone else's fault.

[Twosugars]

Progressive manifesto is the main thing. They must continue with that

[Liam-]

Good chat as always

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I think it’s a bit disingenuous to suggest their policies were rejected, they proved to be popular, but the Tories plaid the game very well and made sure brexit was the main focus of the election and that’s what lost labour the election, along with a swelling dislike of Corbyn, undoubtedly whipped up by the media assault on him

Blame whatever you want Liam..but I blame the youth....fgs Jeremy was getting chanted onto the stage of Glastonbury. .


Yet he couldn't beat Boris ****ing Johnson ..nor his dad atm if it came to it. ..

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

He widened the Overton window, and brought discussions to the table which might not otherwise have been. Even if he and/or his policies were roundly rejected, they were discussed.

His policies are very popular but as they are identified with him are sidelined as of today's press. 'Toxified' the phrase was ... never heard anything more ridiculous.
Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm struggling for positivity.


help.

He has shown how NOT to be a successful party leader, as he has been the worst in history. That should be a positive lesson for the Labour party going forward, but I fear not.

[arista]

Originally Posted by smudgie

He got a lot of young people interested in politics.

Yes and Some Young People
stayed in bed.