Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-02-2020, 01:01 PM #1
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,649
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,649
Default At least 69 suicides could have been linked to problems with benefit claims over 6yr



[New report which found
"at least 69 suicides could have
been linked to problems with
benefit claims" over six years.
Families and campaigners have
called for a full public inquiry,
says the paper, following the findings
by government spending watchdog,
the National Audit Office.]


This is not a good story,
they need a conclusion
on this.
arista is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-02-2020, 01:09 PM #2
Shaun's Avatar
Shaun Shaun is offline
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 106,245

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
RPDR UK 2: Tayce


Shaun Shaun is offline
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Shaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 106,245

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
RPDR UK 2: Tayce


Default

It'll of course be dismissed by Conservatives because you can't draw a direct correlation between suicide and the "cause" of suicide, blissfully unaware of the very real and very persistent stress that living on benefits actually entails. I would imagine the number of financial-stress-related suicides (whatever their financial status) is far, far higher and it's just written off as a sad footnote, really.

The Universal Credit scheme is a farce and has absolutely destroyed the poorest class.
__________________
Spoiler:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saph View Post
You're giving me a million reasons about a million reasons

Shaun is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-02-2020, 01:12 PM #3
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,649
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,649
Default

Yes Shaun
well put.
arista is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-02-2020, 01:17 PM #4
Liam-'s Avatar
Liam- Liam- is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,015

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Liam- Liam- is online now
Senior Member
Liam-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,015

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
It'll of course be dismissed by Conservatives because you can't draw a direct correlation between suicide and the "cause" of suicide, blissfully unaware of the very real and very persistent stress that living on benefits actually entails. I would imagine the number of financial-stress-related suicides (whatever their financial status) is far, far higher and it's just written off as a sad footnote, really.

The Universal Credit scheme is a farce and has absolutely destroyed the poorest class.
Yeah pretty much.

They’ll pass it off as basic depression related suicides and completely ignore the links to money troubles caused through their barbaric schemes
__________________
Liam- is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-02-2020, 01:20 PM #5
Oliver_W's Avatar
Oliver_W Oliver_W is online now
POW! BLAM!
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 15,991

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Oliver_W Oliver_W is online now
POW! BLAM!
Oliver_W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 15,991

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Default

Disgusting, there definitely needs to be better support out there for people with mental health issues. The UC process should also be streamlined with waiting times slashed, and things in place for those who have difficulties in applying.
__________________



Last edited by Oliver_W; 08-02-2020 at 01:21 PM.
Oliver_W is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-02-2020, 06:41 PM #6
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

They want them to die.. That's the point, there's no other explanation.
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-02-2020, 06:56 PM #7
Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,984


Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,984


Default

Maggie would be proud.
Marsh. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-02-2020, 07:19 PM #8
Twosugars Twosugars is offline
Stiff Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Posts: 9,384
Twosugars Twosugars is offline
Stiff Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Posts: 9,384
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marsh. View Post
Maggie would be proud.
Yup. Tory Britain
Twosugars is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-02-2020, 07:25 PM #9
Dogeatdog's Avatar
Dogeatdog Dogeatdog is offline
The other Shaun :)
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: London
Posts: 4,480

Favourites (more):
Love Island 5: Maura
CBB22: Ryan Thomas


Dogeatdog Dogeatdog is offline
The other Shaun :)
Dogeatdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: London
Posts: 4,480

Favourites (more):
Love Island 5: Maura
CBB22: Ryan Thomas


Default

I think it would be interesting to see some of our politicians trying to live on benefits for a few months and see how they cope.
__________________
RIP Matthew Perry 1969-2023
Spoiler:

Dogeatdog is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-02-2020, 07:32 PM #10
hijaxers hijaxers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bristol
Posts: 13,553


hijaxers hijaxers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bristol
Posts: 13,553


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
It'll of course be dismissed by Conservatives because you can't draw a direct correlation between suicide and the "cause" of suicide, blissfully unaware of the very real and very persistent stress that living on benefits actually entails. I would imagine the number of financial-stress-related suicides (whatever their financial status) is far, far higher and it's just written off as a sad footnote, really.

The Universal Credit scheme is a farce and has absolutely destroyed the poorest class.
It absolutely has and they still refuse to listen ~ i can't see any end to it either.
hijaxers is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 09-02-2020, 05:40 AM #11
Ammi's Avatar
Ammi Ammi is offline
Quand il pleut, il pleut
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 63,442


Ammi Ammi is offline
Quand il pleut, il pleut
Ammi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 63,442


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
It'll of course be dismissed by Conservatives because you can't draw a direct correlation between suicide and the "cause" of suicide, blissfully unaware of the very real and very persistent stress that living on benefits actually entails. I would imagine the number of financial-stress-related suicides (whatever their financial status) is far, far higher and it's just written off as a sad footnote, really.

The Universal Credit scheme is a farce and has absolutely destroyed the poorest class.
...yeah this exactly...the whole thing of the benefit system is to help the lowest incomes but food banks are still becoming more and more used..it really has been and is a system that should hang its head in shame because it’s taken the ‘very worse times’ for people and made them very much worse...
Ammi is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 09-02-2020, 12:23 PM #12
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Universal credit is a predatory system but it's a system that targets the poor and vulnerable whom the right wing likes to demonise for votes so who cares whether those 'undesirables' kill themselves or starve to death in their own homes, amirite? The only benefit they have to the right is to tear the working class apart by getting people in work to look down and despise those who aren't.

Universal credit is a boot to the head of the unemployed to 'keep them in their place'. The system doesn't really work to get people into jobs, it seeks only to withold benefits claimants are entitled to by subjecting them to increasingly ridiculous and cruel standards.
Tom4784 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 09-02-2020, 12:52 PM #13
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,546

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,546

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

That's a lot of deaths, they really need to rethink this credit, very few people will have savings to last them 6 weeks and if they do they probably wont get it anyway?
__________________


'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'
Cherie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 09-02-2020, 01:00 PM #14
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

The most ridiculous part of this story is the claim that it's only 69 deaths in 6 years. There are DEFINITELY considerably more deaths that can be linked to UC, whether that's through direct suicide, drug deaths, or simply people being unable to care for themselves properly.

My life has improved in countless ways over the last decade, but one of the things I am MOST thankful for is no longer being reliant on wage top ups to survive... Because the UC system is abysmal, and it targets working families on low income as much as the unemployed.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 09-02-2020, 01:07 PM #15
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
That's a lot of deaths, they really need to rethink this credit, very few people will have savings to last them 6 weeks and if they do they probably wont get it anyway?
And if they do, they'll have to deal with a system that will look for any reason to deprive them of the benefits they are owed.

People who go on about 'scroungers' should count themselves lucky to be so ignorant of the system because anyone who thinks you can create a tidy little life on benefits have never been beholden to the system.

Last edited by Tom4784; 09-02-2020 at 01:07 PM.
Tom4784 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
69, 6yr, benefit, claims, linked, problems, suicides

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:41 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts