[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

They said on the news last night that he wouldn't be there as the unions requested he not be so they could get the unbiased facts without government interruption.

Mmmmmmm..


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[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Mmmmmmm..


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Makes sense for the Unions to get the last scientific data before making their decisions and advising the members. Having Gov representation would have only muddied the waters and become a slanging match as always.

The Unions need to facts....not political opinion

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Makes sense for the Unions to get the last scientific data before making their decisions and advising the members. Having Gov representation would have only muddied the waters and become a slanging match as always.



The Unions need to facts....not political opinion

Fair point ...


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[Zizu]

Teaching unions claim that today’s meeting with the government sadly raised more questions than answers ..


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[Zizu]

Breaking News


Sky News Breaking
‏Verified account @SkyNewsBreak

The British Medical Association has backed teaching unions who have opposed the UK government's plan to reopen schools in England from 1 June


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[LeatherTrumpet]

unions

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Breaking News


Sky News Breaking
‏Verified account @SkyNewsBreak

The British Medical Association has backed teaching unions who have opposed the UK government's plan to reopen schools in England from 1 June


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This is good newssssss

[Strictly Jake]

I just dont know why they think education is that important

My daughter who is 4 loves school she adores her teacher she has lots of friends and she has really come in to her own. She has learnt so much in the short amount of time she has been there. She has seemed to take a bit of a step backwards since lockdown as much as we try to do the homeschooling(a challenge when trying to figure out some sort of routine with a newborn baby and the strange times in which we live) but its not the same as school

So yes I know school is important for so many reasons, but is it more important than health and life? Yes I am aware it is optional to choose if they go in or not, I am also aware that schools have been open for some students, I clean at a school, thankfully they gave me 12 weeks off.

But if so many do return. A class of 15. That is putting all those children at risk. It seems too early and Im afraid its going to be a test of will it work or will it not...only time will tell and my fear is they may all bare the very nasty brunt of it. But hopefully not.

Im also quite fearful of returning to the high school to clean. Yes im sure we will be given PPE and its nothing compared to what frontline and key worker staff have had to cope with but I cant help but feel a little anxious

I found myself quite suprised the other day when I asked my daughter some questions about corona virus

I asked her what is was.. she said an illness

I asked her how it happened....she said it came it goes it comes and goes again(quite a confusing answer but kind of made sense!)

I asked her what we need to do....she said stay home stay safe(I almost fell off my chair at that point I had no idea she would have known that! She likes reading words on telly so I guess she had read it)

I asked her if she wants to go back to school if they have to wear masks... she said no thats scary

Then I asked her if she will hug her friends.... she said yey(which is the very reason people are afraid for that age group they like to socialise like that)

[Zizu]

Sample of union letter to members







Urgent advice for members

The committee met on Thursday 14 May and agreed that the union should continue to oppose the government’s unsafe proposal to increase pupil numbers in England from 1 June.



The committee agreed that if you are approached by your employer to engage with planning for reopening more widely from 1 June you should make it clear that the current situation is not the fault of your individual school, and that your union continues to take up the issue with the government.

It also states that your involvement in any meetings and discussions are for information sharing only and does not mean you are agreeing to unsafe reopening more widely from 1 June.

Further, it calls on your school to join with the unions in urging the government to abandon its reckless plan for an unsafe increase in pupil numbers from 1 June.


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[Zizu]

Sobering stats from between 9 March and 20 April .

A minimum of 65 staff working in the education sector died after contracting the virus – more than two dozen of whom were nursery, primary, secondary, or special school teachers, according to figures published yesterday by the Office of National Statistics (ONS).




There were 65 deaths attributed to the Covid -19 virus in education between 9th March and 20th April including 26 teachers , 10 teaching assistants , 2 secretaries and various other educational staff.


The data does not specify when each death was recorded – so the true weekly total is not known yet but this equates to an average of four teachers and 2 classroom assistants dying with coronavirus in each of the last 6 weeks - deaths of any staff over 65 are not included !


https://www.tes.com/news/coronavirus...-died-covid-19



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[Zizu]

Of course the main reason for this extended opening of schools is to provide child care so that their long-suffering parents can get back to work. Why else?

They're scared children will fall behind? Cobblers. For one, it's a bit late, for another, we'll only get about 50% back if we're lucky(?) and for a third, we'll be teaching very little of importance anyway.

They're worried about children's mental well-being? Again, bollox. What do they think it's going to do to children (particularly young children) when they're being taught day after day in groups they weren't familiar with, with a a teacher that may well not be theirs, in an unfamiliar classroom, on an unfamiliar timetable and in an environment where half their classmates still aren't running the risk of encountering? What do we say to children when they ask why they're back in school and their friends are not?

It's an economic decision. Plain and simple.


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[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Of course the main reason for this extended opening of schools is to provide child care so that their long-suffering parents can get back to work. Why else?

They're scared children will fall behind? Cobblers. For one, it's a bit late, for another, we'll only get about 50% back if we're lucky(?) and for a third, we'll be teaching very little of importance anyway.

They're worried about children's mental well-being? Again, bollox. What do they think it's going to do to children (particularly young children) when they're being taught day after day in groups they weren't familiar with, with a a teacher that may well not be theirs, in an unfamiliar classroom, on an unfamiliar timetable and in an environment where half their classmates still aren't running the risk of encountering? What do we say to children when they ask why they're back in school and their friends are not?

It's an economic decision. Plain and simple.


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The ramifications of the economy tanking could be far far worse than this virus has been,do people even think about what could happen ? and again IF your scared to send your children to school then don't,its quite simple really.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The ramifications of the economy tanking could be far far worse than this virus has been,do people even think about what could happen ? and again IF your scared to send your children to school then don't,its quite simple really.

It’s not just about the kids !!

We are talking about the lives of hundreds of thousands of staff who will be in close proximity to thousands of children in perfect incubators ( classrooms) .

There’s a petition signed by over 400,000 people in education plus concerned parents .

( including 15,000+ headmasters , around 200,000 teachers , 70,000+ classroom assistants )


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[Zizu]

Yet another reason to keep schools closed and to worry parents ..


World Health Organization (WHO) Retweeted
Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus @DrTedros 5h
@WHO
released a scientific brief on Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children:

https://bit.ly/2TbyCl3

I call on all clinicians worldwide to work with your national authorities and WHO to be on the alert and better understand this syndrome in children. #COVID19


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[Scarlett.]

At this point sending them back in either August or September would make the most sense

[Strictly Jake]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It’s not just about the kids !!

We are talking about the lives of hundreds of thousands of staff who will be in close proximity to thousands of children in perfect incubators ( classrooms) .

There’s a petition signed by over 400,000 people in education plus concerned parents .

( including 15,000+ headmasters , around 200,000 teachers , 70,000+ classroom assistants )


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Plus cleaners like myself who work at a school who will have to wipe everything down that has been used. Very risky

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Scarlett.

At this point sending them back in either August or September would make the most sense

Has to be Sept .. can’t start messing with summer holidays/ staff contracts .


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Plus cleaners like myself who work at a school who will have to wipe everything down that has been used. Very risky

Yes of course .. those stats include two secretaries who will have minimal contact with children / staff ... in comparison


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yes of course .. those stats include two secretaries who will have minimal contact with children / staff ... in comparison


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and you know for sure these secretaries were at work when they picked it up, not from a family member or when they were on a bus, or at a restaurant or sking in Italy at half term


stop scaremongering

[Zizu]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...M639v74aC26nUM


In a statement, the Sheiling School, based in Thornbury, said: "Up to 18 pupils were attending the school on a regular basis with up to 30 educational staff on site.

"The school has been following strict guidance on social distancing where possible, use of PPE and daily infection control cleaning but despite these rigorous measures, two members of staff have, very regrettably, tested positive for the virus."

The NEU spokesman said: "This is the first local case of a Covid-19 outbreak in a school, maybe the first nationally.

"There is a particular problem in special schools as the children do not always have the capacity to understand new safety procedures including social distancing."
BBC News Bristol - 16th May 2020


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

and you know for sure these secretaries were at work when they picked it up, not from a family member or when they were on a bus, or at a restaurant or sking in Italy at half term


stop scaremongering

We’ve been here before .. that’s like suggesting that all those poor , poor doctors, nurses and other nhs workers contracted the virus out on their daily walks or the weekly shopping trip .


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[Zizu]

Staff and students sent home as Lincolnshire school closed after kids display symptoms of coronavirus

https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/n...paign=sharebar



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[Zizu]

If it’s such a good idea to get the kids back to school now, why are Eton and Harrow not allowing pupils back until September?


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[bitontheslide]

aren't Eton and the like primarily residential, so a completely different scenario to day school

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

aren't Eton and the like primarily residential, so a completely different scenario to day school

The point is that they don’t think it’s safe ..


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