[Ammi]

...I guess that I just find it all linked and it all has its own importance because it all has its own place in a community...(...and I’m not a pub person, I don’t personally go...)...but then, my ‘hub’ revolves around other things, other sources...for some a village pub is very much a part of something that can bring so much more than a drink or a meal..?..it can bring activities, with quizzes and fund raising events, like fun runs and cycling events...also it’s a place where people can discuss the vulnerable in the community...and Mr Etc, needs some regular shopping done atm, if anyone is able to do that/...just so many things..in terms of mental health...?...I think it’s equally important in both children and adults, in all ages...and being able to feel your community around you can only enhance mental health...

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My focus on education is selfish? I could accept that partially because yes I have children but anyone who doesn't think that child welfare tops the priority list... Well, where would you even start.

In terms of the other things, I (thankfully) have no friends or family members who are suffering because of the lack of access to non-essential medical procedures so you're off base there. I just think it's a horrendous situation because A) I know it's happening and B) I'm a human being.

The constant attempt to try to make a case for "the pub" being of equal importance or even anywhere vaguely in the ballpark of things like education, children's welfare, or health and social care are bizarre to me but of course not unexpected. I know how important it is to some people. Maybe even most people. That's what makes it so hard to swallow. The justifications and excuses will be endless but I can only believe (or hope) that somewhere deep down, people know fine well that socialising over a pint should be considered low priority. If I don't believe that I'll lose the last glimmer of faith I have in people.

people who don't have kids in education couldn't care less if schools are open or not. They have a different set of priorities to yours. Why should they respect your wishes when you are so dismissive of theirs? That's not a tolerant society

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people who don't have kids in education couldn't care less if schools are open or not. They have a different set of priorities to yours. Why should they respect your wishes when you are so dismissive of theirs? That's not a tolerant society

It's basic common sense that education is a priority to alcohol.

If we're talking priorities, anyone that would prioritise a pint over child welfare is not a normal person.

[Ammi]

..having had conversations with families all through, focusing on mental health...I know the impact..(...with some parents...)...that haven’t been able to get out for a few hours here and there as well...the need for other adult interaction, which has been so bad for their mental health...and how that ..(..can..)..impact on a child ...and so it goes on in circles...if possible and where possible, it would be better to be looking at ways of keeping pubs open and them not being ‘sacrificed’...an ‘okay, we’ll close them’ just seems something that might not be necessary when many things can still take place and be adapted to social distancing...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It's basic common sense that education is a priority to alcohol.

If we're talking priorities, anyone that would prioritise a pint over child welfare is not a normal person.

...on the last day of term I would say, probably most school staff might have prioritised a pint over child welfare.....(...well actually, a few days before the last day...)...

[arista]

Today 74 died

UK Covid-19 Total Deaths :46,193


Additional data:
[Daily number of lab-confirmed UK cases
771

Number of additional cases on Saturday 1 August 2020]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

10 die after drinking hand sanitiser in India
while alcohol stores were closed.

https://news.sky.com/story/10-die-af...losed-12040504

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It is absolutely tragic that the "only real source" of local community is or was pubs, and everyone being too unimaginative to find ways to engage with their local community that don't involve those activities is so, so much sadder than a pub with closed doors.

Maybe time for a fresh way of looking at things, rather than woefully clinging to a depressing tradition? Just my opinion of course, I understand that some people are reliant on pubs and need to get back urgently for when they don't fancy cooking or want to watch Sky Sports. **** me.

It's not tragic at all - in places with no shops, leisure centres, cafes or other facilities then yes the pub is important. My local one hosts quiz nights, music nights, its got mens and womens darts teams, people meet to play bridge, local organisations have their meetings there, sports teams go there after playing, it hosts guest food nights, people give talks, you even get blooming knitting clubs and things like that meet there. A lot of people don't even drink when they go to pubs. The fact you keep reducing everything to people apparently just 'itching for a pint' shows you don't get it imo and either went to the wrong pubs or maybe couldn't enjoy them responsibly yourself. Fair enough they're not everyone's cup of tea but hard to see how spending hours on an online forum like we are here is a more wholesome and fruitful use of free time than getting out socialising and being a part of your community. Always worth reading into how big a part pubs played in this country's history, there's a reason they've been around for hundreds of years

[MTVN]

And on that note I have just finished work and it's a lovely day so I am off to the pub

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by MTVN

And on that note I have just finished work and it's a lovely day so I am off to the pub

You could make one of these and stick a straw through ...






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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

10 die after drinking hand sanitiser in India
while alcohol stores were closed.

https://news.sky.com/story/10-die-af...losed-12040504

What are these people thinking ?!


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[Ammi]

...enjoy...

[arista]

[Coronavirus: 650 jobs lost as burger chain Byron
flips out of administration]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ation-12040003

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It's not tragic at all - in places with no shops, leisure centres, cafes or other facilities then yes the pub is important. My local one hosts quiz nights, music nights, its got mens and womens darts teams, people meet to play bridge, local organisations have their meetings there, sports teams go there after playing, it hosts guest food nights, people give talks, you even get blooming knitting clubs and things like that meet there. A lot of people don't even drink when they go to pubs. The fact you keep reducing everything to people apparently just 'itching for a pint' shows you don't get it imo and either went to the wrong pubs or maybe couldn't enjoy them responsibly yourself. Fair enough they're not everyone's cup of tea but hard to see how spending hours on an online forum like we are here is a more wholesome and fruitful use of free time than getting out socialising and being a part of your community. Always worth reading into how big a part pubs played in this country's history, there's a reason they've been around for hundreds of years

LT's reach is far and wide

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people who don't have kids in education couldn't care less if schools are open or not. They have a different set of priorities to yours. Why should they respect your wishes when you are so dismissive of theirs? That's not a tolerant society

People who don't have kids couldn't care less about education, and their set of priorities involves a requirement of going down the pub to get pissed with their pals?

Wow... That's some deeply, deeply dystopian bull**** right there but if that's how it is, it's how it is I guess. I shall reserve the right to feel like those people are both unreasonably stupid and frustratingly selfish. But hey it's Britain 2020 so I'm not going to pretent to be surprised.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It's not tragic at all - in places with no shops, leisure centres, cafes or other facilities then yes the pub is important. My local one hosts quiz nights, music nights, its got mens and womens darts teams, people meet to play bridge, local organisations have their meetings there, sports teams go there after playing, it hosts guest food nights, people give talks, you even get blooming knitting clubs and things like that meet there. A lot of people don't even drink when they go to pubs. The fact you keep reducing everything to people apparently just 'itching for a pint' shows you don't get it imo and either went to the wrong pubs or maybe couldn't enjoy them responsibly yourself. Fair enough they're not everyone's cup of tea but hard to see how spending hours on an online forum like we are here is a more wholesome and fruitful use of free time than getting out socialising and being a part of your community. Always worth reading into how big a part pubs played in this country's history, there's a reason they've been around for hundreds of years

You're not describing anything other than leisure activities for adults. Bottom priority for anyone who isn't immature and selfish.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You're not describing anything other than leisure activities for adults. Bottom priority for anyone who isn't immature and selfish.

ludicrous

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

ludicrous

Again you're not even bothering to elaborate. You want it to be ludicrous and you want to pretend that you don't "need" to explain because you don't have a good reasoning.

But again, by all means, assuming we have to "pick and choose" how many aspects of normal life can return, which things would you say come BELOW adult leisure in the pecking order?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yaasss

Although didn’t all Welsh children go back end of June, it’s hard to know as there wasn’t a word about it in the media..

did this happen? anyone????

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

[/B]


did this happen? anyone????

No that hasn’t happened, year 6s went back for a single day to mark them leaving, but other than that, no

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...on the last day of term I would say, probably most school staff might have prioritised a pint over child welfare.....(...well actually, a few days before the last day...)...

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