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14-06-2020, 07:48 AM | #1 | |||
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Thats Crazy talk
Its on the BLM UK Site Debated on Ridge SkyNewsHD https://novaramedia.com/2020/06/13/w...ork-in-the-uk/ Last edited by arista; 14-06-2020 at 07:57 AM. |
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14-06-2020, 08:06 AM | #2 | |||
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14-06-2020, 08:24 AM | #3 | |||
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What does it mean exactly, I know they are calling for it in the US but what does it mean
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14-06-2020, 08:28 AM | #4 | |||
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"That's just the tip of iceberg."
Sure, Yes in the USA. But Not in the UK |
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14-06-2020, 08:30 AM | #5 | |||
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They want to take away their Budget so the Police get low funding Then Crime gets worse. In USA California a Stupid Mayor in California jumped to the news to say he is taking money away from the Police? Last edited by arista; 14-06-2020 at 08:31 AM. |
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14-06-2020, 08:31 AM | #6 | |||
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14-06-2020, 08:35 AM | #7 | |||
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I dont know why some in the UK are so keen to follow the USA in everything...
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'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages' Last edited by Cherie; 14-06-2020 at 08:36 AM. |
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14-06-2020, 08:41 AM | #8 | |||
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Labour have always been critical of cuts to police funding here...the government are in the process of recruiting based on an election manifesto commitment, it would be madness for Labour to support such a move.. you can.keep it on your side of the pond :
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14-06-2020, 08:41 AM | #9 | |||
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14-06-2020, 10:11 AM | #10 | |||
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14-06-2020, 10:17 AM | #11 | |||
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If anything, recent events in London have shown we need more police.
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14-06-2020, 10:17 AM | #12 | |||
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Defund the police doesn't mean scrap them and everyone can fight to the death, it means what we have isn't working, so lets try and find a better way.
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14-06-2020, 10:31 AM | #13 | ||
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What also needs to be done is more training. It’s a joke that you can basically just join the police with hardly no training I saw an advert on TV about just signing up for it? The job should require as much training and education as a doctor gets. With that amount of power in the position.
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14-06-2020, 10:31 AM | #14 | |||
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The police here shouldn’t need to be defunded, the government just need to take all the money they’ve stopped giving giving to the police and invest it into areas that need it, social care, mental health, building areas up, an improved police training scheme, as people have said, people are purposely confusing things to whip up contempt for the cause, defund doesn’t mean abolish.
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14-06-2020, 10:36 AM | #15 | |||
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not defunded i agree, but more funding towards the police, and i also agree with Samm, better training for police, more discipline
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14-06-2020, 10:38 AM | #16 | |||
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do not need to be defunded |
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14-06-2020, 10:44 AM | #17 | |||
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They need more funds - better training, for a start.
But also better equipment, there's no reason that riots should be allowed to happen any more. |
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14-06-2020, 10:45 AM | #18 | |||
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Only because the Tories have been decimating their budget for 10 years anyway
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14-06-2020, 12:23 PM | #19 | ||
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Ahhh well in the US it means take the funding that's spent on equipment, tech, guns, gas, and other weapons of war and redistribute it into things that will actually help to tackle crime at the root.
Although I personally think the best approach would be to reinvest a large part of that money into proper police training and into proper vetting of recruits. The UK though, this feels a bit copy-cat and "we'll ask for it because the US is doing it" when the situation if far from the same. If anything, major parts of the problem in UK policing is systematic UNDER funding in the first place. Again, I'd say funnel money into better training and staffing. But there isn't an equipment budget to redirect that money from, here. Conflating the UK and US police forces is dumb. Last edited by Toy Soldier; 14-06-2020 at 12:23 PM. |
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14-06-2020, 12:24 PM | #20 | ||
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Funnily enough it makes a good allegory for the entire US. If they'd take the money they spend guns, bombs, planes, drones and warships and spend it on social programmes they would solve a lot of problems over night.
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14-06-2020, 12:27 PM | #21 | ||
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You can't gaslight the left when your country has a lunatic sanctioned and protected by the republicans in office. Employ some self awareness. |
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14-06-2020, 12:30 PM | #22 | |||
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If only the people advocating for social programs had billions to throw at politicians, they'd get that change easily, which is another depressing anomaly.
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14-06-2020, 12:31 PM | #23 | |||
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Two things can be true at once - Trump can be a joke, and lefties can make stupid demands.They're not mutually exclusive.
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14-06-2020, 12:33 PM | #24 | ||
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As for the topic, our police are operating on a shoestring budget to begin with, there's not much you can defund.
The act of defunding only really makes sense in the US where the police have the funds to access military grade equipment and generally have budgets that far exceed the force's competence. The Police Force in the US in inherently broken, there's a culture of silence and acceptance of violence and abuse from the supposed 'good apples' that allow the racists, the killers and the abusers to thrive within the system. The problem won't ever be fixed without fundamental widespread changes to the police force. More training, more background checks, more accountability and standards. Too many officers are unfit to serve at a fundamental level and the level of violence when the police are confronted with this fact only proves it to be true. |
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14-06-2020, 12:35 PM | #25 | |||
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"As for the topic, our police are operating on a shoestring budget to begin with, there's not much you can defund. "
Correct Dezzy But BLM UK do not care |
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