[Smithy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I vote conservative but politics isn’t something I’m well versed on...but I have my reasons why I don’t vote for Labour or any other party. That’s all I’m saying...doesn’t mean I can’t come on here and read and participate in the thread if I choose...just like Kazanne can.

But I’m not asking WHY you voted for them or why you didn’t vote for someone else all I’m asking is how you think the government YOU voted has handled this crisis

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well Smithy, my apologies to you re your thread.

I never intended to post in it as I'm not and couldn't now vote Conservative.
Although there are things I agree with them on.

This was mainly, in my view, an interesting question.

However by my posting, it seems I opened a can of worms.

I think the news and even the paper media, I never call them newspapers anymore.
However even the diehard Conservative papers have at times been exasperated and furious at the NHS staff deaths and Care home residents and staff deaths, due to the debacle of the on/ off it's coming,/it's not coming of protection equipment.

I never mind being challenged on my political stance.
Good grief, I've voted Conservative in Council elections, although in the 2010 general election, my hand wavered across Conservative and Lib Dem.
I was worried about the Cons NHS plans so voted Lib Dem then.

Once the cruel testing of the sick and disabled got worse.
Which Labour had wrongly started.
However the Cons made them far worse, during the coalition, with truly degrading tests.
Plus the top down re-organisation of the NHS promised never to be going to happen,plus tuition fees deceit.
Then I turned from both Conservative and Lib Dem leanings then.

Since 2013, I have then been a supporter and member of the Labour party.
Although in Scotland, it is the SNP I greatly respect in politics.

However, I've helped messed your thread up, so again my apologies.
May I suggest had you said, what do Labour voters think of the handling of this pandemic, had they been in power, so one for the future here on an issue.

You'd get answers a plenty, and believe me, all I've seen as a member of the Labour party, is we,their members and voters can be cruelly scathing to the leader, Cabinet and Party even when in power.

Don’t worry about it Joey, it happens in every thread, one member (yourself) makes a reasonable comment which someone takes and runs with and derails the whole thing.

I can agree with your last two paragraphs too, Dianne Abbot was pretty much crucified for drinking on the train (or whatever it was) by opposition supporting forum members, here you have people blatantly breaking government guidelines and not a peep and they’re happy to act like everything is ok and the “one rule for them and another for us” attitude is completely fine it’s wrong

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Then why keep voting for people who will never win or be in power. Do you ever consider your pov is never going to be implemented. What ever you believe in won't work so either change or quit having a pop at those who make changes

Socialism is not be what people wan't. End of. It's over.really. it's over

That's not a reason to vote conservative is it?

I know why I vote the way I do, I've heard the I vote tory to keep labour out... is that the only reason? Honestly I've never heard another.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Then why keep voting for people who will never win or be in power. Do you ever consider your pov is never going to be implemented. What ever you believe in won't work so either change or quit having a pop at those who make changes

Socialism is not be what people wan't. End of. It's over.really. it's over

Hard left socialism isn't what people want, but people in the UK have demonstrated that they do want functional centrist socialism on countless occasions. If the people of the UK "didn't want socialism", the Tories wouldn't keep pretending that they want to keep the NHS.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Smithy

But I’m not asking WHY you voted for them or why you didn’t vote for someone else all I’m asking is how you think the government YOU voted has handled this crisis

Personally I think they have handled it quite well. They may look back and realised they could have dealt with things better ie. Care homes...Cummings.
Care home residents were really let down badly and as for the Cummings situation..he should have been sacked.

[Trouble1321075]

Are they mandates or guidelines? There is a difference. The latter is a recommendation and the former is a law, at least thats how it is here in the states.

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