[LeatherTrumpet]

Looking back to March do you feel that we have reacted to this virus well or do you think we have totally gone over the top?

DO you know many folk who got it?

Is anyone still getting ill or are they just testing positive? poll included

[Niamh.]

I'm not sure, I suppose a lot will be told in the next few weeks after the kids have been in school. I probably wouldn't say it was the wrong choice to Lock down though either way, just because we didn't know what was going to happen, so I think erring on the side of caution was the safest move, gambling with peoples lives would not have sat right with me. From an Irish perspective and seeing and hearing those scenes and stories from Italy, Doctors having to choose between patients to put on ventilators etc, i think our only correct option was to Lock Down, our health system just would not have coped with a situation like they had in Italy.

I only personally know around 4 people who tested positive and none got sick with it. Although a colleague of Gavins husband died from it

[bitontheslide]

if people had actually social distanced and wore face coverings in March we probably wouldnt have needed to lock down.

I think we will get a better picture over the next few months. Not wishing to be callous, but the initial death rate was always going to be the worst as it infected the most vulnerable in society

[LeatherTrumpet]

Yes totally agree about face coverings

[thesheriff443]

Considering 24 thousand people die in this country from the flue each year

And something like 43 thousand have died from Covid

I think been a massive over reaction to it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I dont really have any faith in the numbers of deaths and i feel that will be exposed at a later date?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I dont really have any faith in the numbers of deaths and i feel that will be exposed at a later date?

You mean higher?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You mean higher?

no lower

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I dont really have any faith in the numbers of deaths and i feel that will be exposed at a later date?

we know what the excess death figures were taken against previous years, so we know a lot of people died when covid was rife. That is the only reliable figure. A proportion of those deaths will be because people stayed away from hospital or were not able to be treated for other illnesses, i have no idea how large or small that figure is.

I've said this before, but the reason we were more affected than other countries was because our health system had kept people alive longer than they would have lived in other countries. The virus itself doesn't discriminate, like for like populations would be affected equally

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no lower

I see

But people will have died thru not going to hospital in the wake of COVID or having their operations cancelled.

[Liam-]

I don’t think we’ve fully grasped how dangerous it can still be, what with the leaderships constantly confusing messaging, viral conspiracy nuts like David Icke and Piers Corbyn manipulating people into believing insane, easily disproven theories, it’s never going to go away because unlike the flu, it’s not seasonal, it won’t just disappear and come back, the more people that are lackadaisical about the spread of infection, the longer people will die and more people will be left with severe health issues.

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I don’t think we’ve fully grasped how dangerous it can still be, what with the leaderships constantly confusing messaging, viral conspiracy nuts like David Icke and Piers Corbyn manipulating people into believing insane, easily disproven theories, it’s never going to go away because unlike the flu, it’s not seasonal, it won’t just disappear and come back, the more people that are lackadaisical about the spread of infection, the longer people will die and more people will be left with severe health issues.

This

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I don’t think we’ve fully grasped how dangerous it can still be, what with the leaderships constantly confusing messaging, viral conspiracy nuts like David Icke and Piers Corbyn manipulating people into believing insane, easily disproven theories, it’s never going to go away because unlike the flu, it’s not seasonal, it won’t just disappear and come back, the more people that are lackadaisical about the spread of infection, the longer people will die and more people will be left with severe health issues.

I cant remember the last time I saw a news report from a hospital and they dont ever mention if anyone is actually ill just that people test positive?

maybe i am tuning this out however

[Nicky91]

it is a very dangerous virus what we should take serious at all times

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

it is a very dangerous virus what we should take serious at all times

do you know anyone who got it?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I don’t think we’ve fully grasped how dangerous it can still be, what with the leaderships constantly confusing messaging, viral conspiracy nuts like David Icke and Piers Corbyn manipulating people into believing insane, easily disproven theories, it’s never going to go away because unlike the flu, it’s not seasonal, it won’t just disappear and come back, the more people that are lackadaisical about the spread of infection, the longer people will die and more people will be left with severe health issues.

...all of this completely, Liam...just speaking to any of the front line NHS parents at school, through it...there was definitely no overreaction and nothing has changed with that, it hasn’t lost any ‘power’ in how deadly it is...and we are just learning about those ‘recoveries’ as well, how far reaching the impact is and will still have through their lives...?..and how it’s still impossible to know about reinfection etc and whether the health issues of any ‘recoveries’ will become very serious and possibly life threatening in either the short term or long term ...

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

do you know anyone who got it?

no, and i hope it stays like that (but i read and see enough horrible things about this virus on the news)

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by nicky91

no, and i hope it stays like that (but i read and see enough horrible things about this virus on the news)

have you seen anything lately on the news of ill people?

[bitontheslide]

Hospitals are pretty much empty of covid patients here in the uk, its been that way for at least 2 months now. They are identifying those that have it quicker now than pre march because we are testing for it, and those that have become infected are younger and much less vulnerable. That doesn't however mean we are out of the woods yet. With the summer ending, the uv levels decreasing and people heading indoors, the infection rate is likely to increase quickly soon if people don't stick to the guidelines. I personally think it will be worse this winter than it was in March, but time will tell

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I don’t think we’ve fully grasped how dangerous it can still be, what with the leaderships constantly confusing messaging, viral conspiracy nuts like David Icke and Piers Corbyn manipulating people into believing insane, easily disproven theories, it’s never going to go away because unlike the flu, it’s not seasonal, it won’t just disappear and come back, the more people that are lackadaisical about the spread of infection, the longer people will die and more people will be left with severe health issues.

All I'm going to say, as I've said loads on this before.
Also from the losses to this detestable virus personally.

Is I agree with all your post Liam.

[DouglasS]

At first definitely was a big issue and was a massive cause of death and worry.

At the moment around 1-5 people in the U.K. are dying with it in their system... seems a bit extreme that people aren’t sending their kids in and people aren’t going to work because 1-5 people out of 70 million people are dying with it in their system. More people a day in the U.K. are dying from car accidents, suicide, amongst other things. It’s a bit excessive right now imo

[DouglasS]

And it’s been so overplayed now that people are scared of this ‘invisible killer’ despite it not actually really being a killer.. the 0.00001% of the population that die each day are already very unhealthy and ill. When it was at its peak sure maybe a few odd people a day dieing was not a vulnerable death - but that’s the same with the flu and other resporatory diseases

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I don’t think we’ve fully grasped how dangerous it can still be, what with the leaderships constantly confusing messaging, viral conspiracy nuts like David Icke and Piers Corbyn manipulating people into believing insane, easily disproven theories, it’s never going to go away because unlike the flu, it’s not seasonal, it won’t just disappear and come back, the more people that are lackadaisical about the spread of infection, the longer people will die and more people will be left with severe health issues.

I think we had better HOPE it isn't seasonal. I have a strong suspicion that, in fact, it very much is seasonal and the huge drop in cases over summer was because of... summer... more than any other factor. As we go into winter, we'll start to see whether or not it's seasonal. I suspect that we may in for a grim confirmation that it is.

[Tom4784]

Anyone who is minimising it is a fool.

Boris ****ed it all up, he should have wrote measures into law earlier, masks should have been mandatory when it was known that they actually had a positive effect and not weeks/months later. Most countries that have handled it well so far have taken decisive action and have stuck to it. The tory government was wish washy until it was too late and have given out advice that's often proved contradictory ever since. It doesn't help that you have senior members of government openly flouting the rules to absolutely no consequences....

[thesheriff443]

No one gets out alive in the end.

You can die any time from conseption or any time there after

From killing yourself to being murdered from disease or by accident.

In this country alone 43 thousand odd so far compared with something like 68 million population the numbers are tiny.

I know it’s someones life, but like experts are saying there is more chance of getting hit and killed by a bus than dying of Covid.