[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Makes sense really, you have a stronger immune response if you already have antibodies and that's what makes you feel ill. Also why people are hit harder by the second dose than the first.

Yup definitely makes a lot of sense.

In which case am kind of crapping myself for mine. As I got covid 'badly' (though not enough for hospital) and currently have 'long covid' according to my GP. So in theory, if thats how it goes..I am going to be even more ill than Gav :S

Have been lucky with 'long covid' though seeing what some others seem to be getting. I just have a continual annoying cough, and taste is not 100% still either (though sense of smell appears to have gone into overdrive!)

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ah, the pfizer one made you ill? Might be both then



Makes sense its the immune response though.

Never really felt poorly .. some random headaches , random pains etc

Maybe not even connected ..

Who knows


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Also, thinking on it, those who have been ill with it, most were confirmed at some stage to have caught covid over the past year or so. Well, most of those who I speak to enough to know that anyway. Small sample, tbf!

That’s what I was saying before .. those who’ve had it seem to get worse side effects to the vaccines presumably as they’ve already got some built in protection after the virus has gone ..

Same thing seems to apply to the second jab which makes sense


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My Dad had no side effects after getting the Oxford vaccine but then developed shingles 2.5 weeks later. I thought it was just coincidence but have read a few anecdotal articles stating a number of people have developed shingles. Will probably never know but if it is a side effect I think he would have took a couple of days of flu type symptoms rather than this. He's been in quite a bit of pain with it for over 10 days now. But....rather that then getting seriously ill or worse with actual covid

Yikes... I had shingles years ago and it’s one of the worst things I’ve ever experienced..

Hope to gawd I don’t get it


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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My Dad had no side effects after getting the Oxford vaccine but then developed shingles 2.5 weeks later. I thought it was just coincidence but have read a few anecdotal articles stating a number of people have developed shingles. Will probably never know but if it is a side effect I think he would have took a couple of days of flu type symptoms rather than this. He's been in quite a bit of pain with it for over 10 days now. But....rather that then getting seriously ill or worse with actual covid

i've had shingles in the past several times and it's no joke. The shingles virus is always in your system after you have had chicken pox, it never goes away, it takes hold when you get a bit run down and the vaccine could easily have contributed to that as your system is busy creating new defenses

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup definitely makes a lot of sense.

In which case am kind of crapping myself for mine. As I got covid 'badly' (though not enough for hospital) and currently have 'long covid' according to my GP. So in theory, if thats how it goes..I am going to be even more ill than Gav :S

Have been lucky with 'long covid' though seeing what some others seem to be getting. I just have a continual annoying cough, and taste is not 100% still either (though sense of smell appears to have gone into overdrive!)

You should be fine. You may get some flu like symptoms for a couple of days. But that's about it.

[Nicky91]

well my mom has decided she doesn't want AstraZeneca

majority of people who got that one, most lots of nasty/severe side effects, some even saying the vaccine is worse than covid itself

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

You should be fine. You may get some flu like symptoms for a couple of days. But that's about it.

That was more or less my take on things .. I’m hypersensitive to a lot of triggers and I’ve had shingles in the past so to say I was wary is an understatement but I weighed all that against the option to prevent serious Covid , ventilation or death


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

well my mom has decided she doesn't want AstraZeneca

majority of people who got that one, most lots of nasty/severe side effects, some even saying the vaccine is worse than covid itself

Germany now backs it for Olders

[arista]

[People vaccinated up to and including 6 March 2021

First dose: 22,213,112

Second dose: 1,122,402]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Vicky.]

Well gav seems ok now, albeit a little tired and headachey. And sore arm.

So all is well (:

[arista]

[Ammi]

Five countries halt use of one batch of AstraZeneca jab after fatal blood clot...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/five-count...194206193.html

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Five countries halt use of one batch of AstraZeneca jab after fatal blood clot...





https://uk.yahoo.com/news/five-count...194206193.html

Mmmm

It said PRAC were investigating the thrombosis conditions linked to the same batch as well as all other reports of thrombosis and related blood clotting conditions reported post-vaccination.

“The information available so far indicates that the number of thromboembolic events in vaccinated people is no higher than that seen in the general population,” it said.

The EMA said as of Tuesday, there had been 22 reports of such conditions among the three million people to receive the AstraZeneca jab in the European Economic Area.



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[Nicky91]

Netherlands total of vaccinated as of today

first dose: 1.207.904

second dose: 411.935

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Mmmm

It said PRAC were investigating the thrombosis conditions linked to the same batch as well as all other reports of thrombosis and related blood clotting conditions reported post-vaccination.

“The information available so far indicates that the number of thromboembolic events in vaccinated people is no higher than that seen in the general population,” it said.

The EMA said as of Tuesday, there had been 22 reports of such conditions among the three million people to receive the AstraZeneca jab in the European Economic Area.



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...yeah, I think there are going to be a few very unfortunate individual reactions on rare occasions because we haven’t vaccinated worldwide in such a scale before...but more extreme reactions are very rare so far as we can see, it’s just finding if it’s linked to that batch of vaccines with the clots and why that would be...

[Vanessa]

From what I've seen, it's mostly the people with health issues who are at risk of these reactions.
This is why you need to tell your doctor everything before you get the vaccine.

[Ammi]

...I guess sadly not all health issues may be known...but still a very rare thing if that were the case as well...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I guess sadly not all health issues may be known...but still a very rare thing if that were the case as well...

True. That's why it's important to get checked out regularly.
An unknown condition could be dangerous when you get the vaccine.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

True. That's why it's important to get checked out regularly.
An unknown condition could be dangerous when you get the vaccine.

.....so much wisdom, Vanessa...

[Vanessa]

Can't wait to get my second vaccine.
It's going to be in May.

[Zizu]

Any thoughts on the growing list of countries halting the use of AstraZenica!!

There were 6 until a few minutes ago when Norway joined the list


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News UK Today
2 hrs ago
Six European countries suspend use of AstraZeneca vaccine amid blood clot fears



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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Any thoughts on the growing list of countries halting the use of AstraZenica!!

There were 6 until a few minutes ago when Norway joined the list


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News UK Today
2 hrs ago
Six European countries suspend use of AstraZeneca vaccine amid blood clot fears



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My feeling about that is that more doses of it have been distributed here than in all of the EU so not sure what the issue might be, bad batch but then everyone would have clotted, or mixing badly with another medication perhaps I really don't know

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

My feeling about that is that more doses of it have been distributed here than in all of the EU so not sure what the issue might be, bad batch but then everyone would have clotted, or mixing badly with another medication perhaps I really don't know

Yes, we haven't had any problems here.
Could be a reaction to other medication taken..

[Vicky.]

Given so many people in the UK have had the astazeneca one, I would say surely it would be obvious by now if there was some huge risk of something as dangerous as blood clots? I mean, it seems obvious that flu symptoms are quite common. But..clots would have been picked up on by now, or you would think so?!