[Zizu]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Isn’t this like the 10th time she’s lost the citizenship she was never entitled to to begin with lol.
She should really consider making a life in Gaza

Can you imagine this happening in any other fecking country .. plus the taxpayers are paying all her legal fees each time apparently


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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Can you imagine this happening in any other fecking country .. plus the taxpayers are paying all her legal fees each time apparently


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it's international law, so if it doesn't happen in every other country in the world, they are breaking the law

[Gusto Brunt]

Good but I heard she can go to a higher court and if that fails a court higher than that.

Then what is the point of the court that ruled today?

It's about as useful as a chocolate kettle, if it can be simply overruled by two higher courts.

Pathetic court system. Money making machine for lawyers that's all.

[bitontheslide]

she can appeal to the supreme court, but they are very unlikely to overturn it. That is her final option as she already tried the european court of human rights, and their ruling has no affect on the uk's decision

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

she can appeal to the supreme court, but they are very unlikely to overturn it. That is her final option as she already tried the european court of human rights, and their ruling has no affect on the uk's decision

The ruling today SHOULD be her last!

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

The ruling today SHOULD be her last!

why?

The legal system has a process that is available to everyone

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

she can appeal to the supreme court, but they are very unlikely to overturn it. That is her final option as she already tried the european court of human rights, and their ruling has no affect on the uk's decision

Yes her Lawyers have confirmed they will now
do that.

[Soldier Boy]

My opinion remains the same as always on this - there shouldn't be sky-high court costs because the plain situation is that she was a British kid, radicalised in Britain, and thus she is Britain's responsibility. The refusal to acknowledge that is shirking responsibility and is purely political: there are far more dangerous individuals than Begum in the UK who they aren't even attempting to deport. This is high profile, and thus huge PR. Simple as that. Just sheer arrogance to say "we don't want her so some other country can deal with her". She should have been in the UK, in a UK prison, from day 1.

[Soldier Boy]

I'm re-imagining the end of the first Avengers film, they try to hand Loki over to Thor to deal with him and imprison him back on Asgard, but in this reality Thor is a UK politician/Law-maker so he says "LOL no **** that we don't want him on Asgard you have to keep him here on Earth sorry byeee!" and disappears into the sky. The hero we all want and need.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

why?

The legal system has a process that is available to everyone

Why? Because endless appeals and going to further courts makes a mockery of the previous courts' decisons.

They're worthless, as I said if their rulings can be overturned and dismissed.

That's why we have this insane asylum appeal process. A migrant is told he can not stay in the UK, but he can because he has many appeals, and then 99% these migrants stay in the UK.

It's a joke that's not funny. .

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Why? Because endless appeals and going to further courts makes a mockery of the previous courts' decisons.

They're worthless, as I said if their rulings can be overturned and dismissed.

That's why we have this insane asylum appeal process. A migrant is told he can not stay in the UK, but he can because he has many appeals, and then 99% these migrants stay in the UK.

It's a joke that's not funny. .

because everyone has the right of appeal

[Liam-]

Shirking our responsibilities again it seems

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Shirking our responsibilities again it seems

All 3 Judges said NO


4Million pounds on legal aid

[arista]

Originally Posted by arista

No stay out
you Terrorist

For Liam

[arista]

Press need to ask the Labour Leader Starmer
on his view?

[arista]

SkyNews Lady Alex Crawford
has been in Syria
She went to Shamima's tent
but she refused to talk.

So Alex gave a great report
meeting all the other nation
Mothers stuck their young children.


Many were once in ISIS.


Brand New Report
Next Post 5mins YouTube

[arista]

Youtube video

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by arista

All 3 Judges said NO


4Million pounds on legal aid

I can only imagine they're under extremely heavy political pressure because there's really no justification for the "we don't want to deal with our own criminals you can just keep them in your country lol" stance. In terms of our international image it's absolutely abysmal and makes us look weak, petty and populist - not strong in the slightest.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes now aged 21
But Not Legal to return to the UK


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...a-aged-15.html

There was me thinking she was just-about coming up to 21 now.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If she genuinely no longer has terrorist sympathies and wants to work towards helping other young girls at risk of radicalisation... what possible reason is there to not at least explore that as an option? Obviously she would need to be assessed to ensure that it's genuine and not simply a ruse to get back into the country.

As always I struggle with this story - she was a child when she was radicalised and went off to become an ISIS bride, and has become a press poster-child and propaganda piece. I feel like there's very little examination of the actual individual situation at all, simply because it became such a high-profile tabloid thing, and that doesn't sit right.

Would be different if she's actually engaged in violence or in planning terrorist activity but she was essentially a dumb 15 year old who was tricked, seduced away from home, raped and impregnated. It's a mess and the UK's refusal to engage is, ultimately, ridiculously irresponsible.

15 year olds know right from wrong
Did you see her interview , it’s people like you that say killers or rapist’s have changed only for them to reoffend when released

She should be shot like every other terrorism supporter

[thesheriff443]

She didn’t run away from the terrorist’s when you found out the so called truth she stayed with them

She is only on the camp because her husband and others like him were captured

She would still be there breading killers for the cause

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

15 year olds know right from wrong
Did you see her interview , it’s people like you that say killers or rapist’s have changed only for them to reoffend when released

I've made no comment on what should happen to her in Britain other than the fact that it should be in Britain, because she left Britain as a British citizen, and she was radicalised in Britain. When did it become respectable for people to be so scoffingly unwilling to clean up their own mess? It's not an admirable trait but people are so bloody proud of it.

She should be shot like every other terrorism supporter

That's an entirely different debate but to play devil's advocate and say that one might believe that she should be executed for being a terrorist sympathiser... then that person should rightly believe that she should be executed IN BRITAIN for being a terrorist sympathiser. Because she's British and no amount of whining and bawling will change that.

[bitontheslide]

the law doesn't need to be socially correct or logical, that's why i would never ever rely on a court verdict going the way i want it to. I've met a couple of judges over the years, both of whom were entirely unpredictable in their verdicts

[Oliver_W]

Compromise - give her back citizenship, but don't give her any help to return.