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11-05-2021, 12:16 PM | #151 | |||
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It's just another way that shows how well he connects with the electorate....michael foot was around in a totally different time and era.
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11-05-2021, 12:17 PM | #152 | |||
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not really sure what many of the latest posts have to do with labour and how they have lost connection with the GBP
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11-05-2021, 12:18 PM | #153 | |||
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Sure I filled it up with the Queens Speech today I am sure LT, will not mind Last edited by arista; 11-05-2021 at 12:22 PM. |
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11-05-2021, 12:21 PM | #154 | |||
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Johnson has a Fat belly, still despite his early runs with his dog. |
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11-05-2021, 12:46 PM | #155 | ||
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Nah, it's just spineless bootlickers with no standards who vote for corruption and incompetence as long as it's their side that's 'winning'. |
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11-05-2021, 12:57 PM | #156 | ||
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Again, it's not a ****ing competition between nations, it's so ****ing vile how people think the losses are acceptable because vaccinations are going well now. Say that to the people who lost loved ones, see how they react. A lot of the world leaders failed to act, and a lot leaders failing doesn't magically make that failure okay. Instead of trying to brush the failures of this government under the carpet, we should be acknowledging them, the people in charge should look at where they have failed and acknowledge those failings, so that when another pandemic happens, we can learn from this one. People like you who just want to gloss over facts and things you don't like are doomed to repeat the same mistakes. You say I hate this country, but you're the one that refuses to see how things are, that would gladly ignore the bad and doom us to repeat the same **** over and over if you had your way. Also, don't talk ****. If Corbyn was in charge you'd be frothing at the mouth and I'd be okay with that, since I'd prefer you to be angry at mediocre leadership than sweeping it's failures under the rug and acting like the sun shines out of their arse. I just wish you had such consistency to criticise leaders you like, instead of making excuses for them. |
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11-05-2021, 01:02 PM | #157 | ||
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I read what you say and present my thoughts based on your words, you disregard what I say and make me out to be a psychopath that wants people to die. If you think that's comparable, then you are beyond help. |
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11-05-2021, 01:12 PM | #158 | |||
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there is an opposition, they are just not very good and the voter system isn't corrupt. It's time to stop making excuses and start fixing the problems with labour
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11-05-2021, 01:23 PM | #159 | ||
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A party could do and say all the right things and it wouldn't matter because the tories will win regardless. People are too used to voting against themselves. Labour is a flop and will never regain it's footing and no other party will ever get momentum. This is Tory Britain, now, and forever. |
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11-05-2021, 01:28 PM | #160 | |||
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Dezzy it may not be Forever a Tory Britain
But with a possible 2023 Early Summer General Election Labour are must get a move on to sort out internal battles. |
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11-05-2021, 01:31 PM | #161 | ||
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It doesn't matter, labour will never be electable again, and especially not with Starmer in charge, and no other party is in a position to challenge the cultish hold the tories have on people.
A tory supremacy is all I can see, and they'll slowly erode our rights, our public services and people will gladly vote for them to do so. There's no hope for this country. |
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11-05-2021, 02:07 PM | #162 | ||
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No, I wouldn't like Corbyn to be in charge, but again, IF he did exactly what Boris did in the same circumstances, I would feel the same and certainly wouldn't be frothing at the mouth because it was a horrific position for any leader to have to deal with and get 100% right or if not be accused of killing people. But of course you know what people think better than they do. You are the mind reader extraordinaire and never wrong. |
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11-05-2021, 02:14 PM | #163 | |||
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Why do people think this? For me it's the opposite if what people are saying.. Take the fact that the cons have been in power for ages now and wiped the floor with all the other parties during the last election, why on earth would they change the rules for voting when they are winning things so easily atm. It's a poor excuse to say they are trying to block the youth vote..and very condescending to believe that those youths would have voted labour. It's all whataboutary. Last edited by parmnion; 11-05-2021 at 02:16 PM. |
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11-05-2021, 02:17 PM | #164 | ||
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11-05-2021, 02:21 PM | #165 | ||
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You were making excuses for Boris and you were focused on other countries just so you could make out that we were doing well in comparison which glosses over our failures to handle the pandemic well when it came to lost lives that could have been saved with pre-emptive action that this government chose not to do. Again, for the 4th or 5th time in this topic you try the 'I know you are, but what am I?' tactic and it fails like it did before because you're just projecting your own endless failures onto me. You're the one with the questionable reading capabilities and the overactive imagination, as evidenced by the fact you tried to make out that I wanted people to die, while I said you were glossing over the losses by focusing on the failures of other countries which do not make our failures lesser in comparison. It's not that hard to grasp, do better. People only have to mention Corbyn and you go into a terrorist sympathiser tirade, you're only lying to yourself if you're gonna make out that you'd be okay if he was in charge. |
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11-05-2021, 02:23 PM | #166 | |||
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Starmer is Live on Parliament right now Both TV news. He is attacking, Johnson well. At this time it is Sir Keir Starmer, no one else is available, Last edited by arista; 11-05-2021 at 02:25 PM. |
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11-05-2021, 02:26 PM | #167 | |||
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Now Johnson PM
is Speaking thanking pubs/ Going on about His One Nation Conservatism More bloody Slogans Jabs Jabs Jabs Jobs Jobs Jobs Last edited by arista; 11-05-2021 at 02:31 PM. |
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11-05-2021, 02:27 PM | #168 | ||
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You also don't understand voter suppression if you don't think that disallowing people the chance to vote if they don't have photo ID IS NOT suppression. The most common form of photo ID is a driving licence and the simple fact is that there's more tory voters who are drivers than there are of their nearest rivals, Labour who have significantly less voters who can drive. Preventing people from voting if they don't have photo ID is simply a way of limiting the young, the poor and people who simply do not drive and may not have access to photo ID from engaging in their right to vote and have a say. It's suppression, and that's that. |
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11-05-2021, 02:28 PM | #169 | ||
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11-05-2021, 02:30 PM | #170 | |||
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11-05-2021, 02:32 PM | #171 | |||
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I understand this very well thank you, and it's still ridiculous to accuse the cons of suppressing voting, especially when things are going so well for them with people all over giving up on labour and turning to the cons..if anything they would want more people to vote so they can further widen the gap. Last edited by parmnion; 11-05-2021 at 02:33 PM. |
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11-05-2021, 02:34 PM | #172 | ||
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It's suppression, because it's suppression. Putting any kind of extra limits on voting will inevitable suppress some people from voting. You really can't argue against this, it's just in vain to do so. |
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11-05-2021, 02:39 PM | #173 | |||
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11-05-2021, 02:41 PM | #174 | |||
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It will imo, get more peope to vote than not. I think if you have a VOTING ID, you will be more inclined to actually go out and use it on polling day. So it will actually increase the voting numbers. |
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11-05-2021, 02:48 PM | #175 | |||
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What's to say all these people without photo id would even vote for Labour anyway (or against the Conservatives). Bit strange to assume.
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