[ChristmasNeeve]

I watched the first 2 last night, it's a 5 part show

About Murder at the Cottage

Two days before Christmas in 1996, Sophie Toscan du Plantier was brutally murdered at her holiday cottage in Schull, West Cork. The murder rocked the quiet Irish town and 24 years later, the case remains a mystery. This series sees six-time Oscar-nominated filmmaker, Jim Sheridan, piece together original evidence, never-before-seen footage, and interviews with those closest to the case to try to make sense of what really happened.

[Ammi]

…I’ve just checked and I think that I can watch this on NOW TV so I’ll try to start watching later……

[Shaun]

title suggesting Ammi is the culprit? smh

[Ammi]

……Cottage use during COVID restricted times, the resourceful guide…

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’ve just checked and I think that I can watch this on NOW TV so I’ll try to start watching later……

let me know what you think, I think there's only 2 episodes out so far (I can only find the 1st 2 anyway)

Originally Posted by Shaun

title suggesting Ammi is the culprit? smh

[Ammi]

…oh it’s showing more episodes for me so I’m not sure if I can access them all, then…I think they’re all showing…I’ve just started to watch and I’m loving Jim Sheridan storytelling……if I didn’t have any familiarity at all, I’d be totally gripped already ….

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…oh it’s showing more episodes for me so I’m not sure if I can access them all, then…I think they’re all showing…I’ve just started to watch and I’m loving Jim Sheridan storytelling……if I didn’t have any familiarity at all, I’d be totally gripped already ….

Enjoy the beautiful West Cork Scenery it's my favourite place in the world. We've been looking for property around there the last few months and I noticed that I'd seen Sophies neighbours house on(the house that the lady who found her body lived in), the house right behind hers. Would be a bit eerie living there though I think

I've had to use play back to watch the episodes and I can only go back a week, so I can only get the first 2 atm, looks like I might get 1 or 2 more on Sunday

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Enjoy the beautiful West Cork Scenery it's my favourite place in the world. We've been looking for property around there the last few months and I noticed that I'd seen Sophies neighbours house on(the house that the lady who found her body lived in), the house right behind hers. Would be a bit eerie living there though I think

I've had to use play back to watch the episodes and I can only go back a week, so I can only get the first 2 atm, looks like I might get 1 or 2 more on Sunday

OMG we have been on daft.ie looking at properties in West Cork, we might be neighbours

[Cherry Christmas]

Started this last night, thanks for the heads up

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Cherie

OMG we have been on daft.ie looking at properties in West Cork, we might be neighbours

they're pretty scarce atm, I think everyone has had the same idea over Lock Down and now working from home is such a big thing

I'll send you the link of the neighbours house

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Enjoy the beautiful West Cork Scenery it's my favourite place in the world. We've been looking for property around there the last few months and I noticed that I'd seen Sophies neighbours house on(the house that the lady who found her body lived in), the house right behind hers. Would be a bit eerie living there though I think

I've had to use play back to watch the episodes and I can only go back a week, so I can only get the first 2 atm, looks like I might get 1 or 2 more on Sunday

…it’s incredible…..I can see why it was a place where Sophie felt such an affinity with and spent her time there…(…sitting in the same chair, ordering the same scone and tea etc….)….and all of the ‘blow ins’ who also seemed to spend their time there as well…and the people…?…how much they also ‘adopted’ those blow ins as their own as well…

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s incredible…..I can see why it was a place where Sophie felt such an affinity with and spent her time there…(…sitting in the same chair, ordering the same scone and tea etc….)….and all of the ‘blow ins’ who also seemed to spend their time there as well…and the people…?…how much they also ‘adopted’ those blow ins as their own as well…

Yeah, there's a massive English population down that way as well

[Ammi]

…so I don’t think that I realised or I’d forgotten…

Spoiler:

…with the timeline, that Ian Bailey seemed to know some details about Sophie’s killing before those details had become known and that was the first suspicion of the police…he’d known that she wasn’t sexually assaulted…

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…so I don’t think that I realised or I’d forgotten…

Spoiler:

…with the timeline, that Ian Bailey seemed to know some details about Sophie’s killing before those details had become known and that was the first suspicion of the police…he’d known that she wasn’t sexually assaulted…

Yeah

Spoiler:

I remember all that from the first few epsiodes of the Pod cast too and I was definitely thinking he was guilty at that point

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

…when her parents went to see her in the mortuary and they’d obviously done every thing they could to conceal her facial damage..oh my Lord, that’s a vision that they’ll always carry…I know and understand the awful emotional turmoil of her husband…but that he didn’t to see for himself to help him believe that she was gone…and they were the ones to have to do that ….

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Spoiler:

…when her parents went to see her in the mortuary and they’d obviously done every thing they could to conceal her facial damage..oh my Lord, that’s a vision that they’ll always carry…I know and understand the awful emotional turmoil of her husband…but that he didn’t to see for himself to help him believe that she was gone…and they were the ones to have to do that ….

Spoiler:

It's just ever parents worst nightmare to lose a child but to lose her in such a violent and brutal way, it doesn't even bare thinking about, does it?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Spoiler:

It's just ever parents worst nightmare to lose a child but to lose her in such a violent and brutal way, it doesn't even bare thinking about, does it?

Spoiler:

…no it really doesn’t…but for it to have been such a violent death as well…the layers of nightmare that places on that death as well…and literally look stare it in her face… it really does break your heart for them…

[Ammi]

…I have one episode and a bit still to watch …


…not really a spoiler/give away …just some thoughts…

Spoiler:

…I’ve always felt that it was Ian Bailey but as has been said, the suspects were very limited to people that the Garda could investigate and Ian Bailey was the number 1 ….but there were also possibilities of her own family and her husband who had been having an affair with the person who became his 4th wife just 18months after Sophie’s death….her mother had also been the victim of a violent murder….he had an alibi but could have arranged for someone to kill her….

[Ammi]

…The series was so well done…the story, just leaves a completely overwhelming feeling of melancholy and gloom, though that is so consuming…her parents, her son and that ‘act of violence toward them as well, that taking of their lives…’…as was said, there were two wrongs done…the brutal taking of her life and the absence of justice….

Spoiler:

…I honestly don’t know anymore whether Ian Bailey killed Sophie but in the eyes of the law and French justice, he’s indeed guilty of her murder…I feel that he’s a deeply unpleasant man…and if he is innocent of Sophie’s murder, he’s guilty of bringing so much on himself…like he wanted to be that centre of attention for all the wrong reasons and being the control type person he appears to be, he felt that he would just be able to shake it off….I didn’t see any sense from him of what Jules’ life has been or the family of Sophie…he only really seems to have a sense of himself and the impact….

[Cherry Christmas]

Spoiler:

I was leaning to thinking maybe he was set up until I saw the pictures of battered Jules, the jury is out for me currently, on ep 3, Jule was a drinker so it is possible he left the house, but given how tiny the community is if the was a link between him and Sophie it would be known, and what would bring him out there if he didn't know her

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

…Its interesting how Ian Bailey referred to Sophie as ‘that woman’ at one point…he didn’t even say her name and the way he referred to Jules a few times as ‘her’, it feels as though he has such contempt/low regard for females…and yet he made comment that he doesn’t feel any anger with everything/insisting on his innocence….I’m glad that Jim Sheridan responded in the way he did…hmmmmm, excuse me..?…his anger is so apparent, his lack of thought for anyone except himself is so apparent….

[ChristmasNeeve]

I won't read the spoilers until I finish the series, I'll be waiting a while though because I'll have to wait till Sunday again

[Ammi]

…there is another 3 part series on Netflix airing 30th June, I think…A Murder in West Cork…I sadly don’t think it’s ever going to be anything other than unsolved and it’s so emotionally harrowing and saddening to see her family’s life and what Sophie went through as well and to know that there will probably never be justice…it really is incredibly upsetting, I’m not sure that I’ll be able to watch the other one…so soon anyway, how it wasn’t just one life that was taken…

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…there is another 3 part series on Netflix airing 30th June, I think…A Murder in West Cork…I sadly don’t think it’s ever going to be anything other than unsolved and it’s so emotionally harrowing and saddening to see her family’s life and what Sophie went through as well and to know that there will probably never be justice…it really is incredibly upsetting, I’m not sure that I’ll be able to watch the other one…so soon anyway, how it wasn’t just one life that was taken…

Yeah that's the one I was talking about before. I'll probably watch that too.

[Ammi]

…and for those who actually knew her in Schull…some can still barely speak about it, their voices breaking with the emotion…the impact of the violence of her death and ‘a monster living among them’ is just a darkness on their lives…