[arista]

posted on Facebook Sellers

[Smithy]

Is that legit?

I’ve seen the videos before but looks like a scam

[arista]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Is that legit?

I’ve seen the videos before but looks like a scam

Yes I will remove that link
just in case.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Is that legit?

I’ve seen the videos before but looks like a scam

It's basically a gamble - they sell packages of returned items at auction, you might hit the jackpot and get something amazing, you might get a big ol' box of broken junk.

[UserSince2005]

if it seems to good to be true...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's basically a gamble - they sell packages of returned items at auction, you might hit the jackpot and get something amazing, you might get a big ol' box of broken junk.

Yes but it said free delivery?
pay on paypal


Yes a Gamble of Stock Returns
and Deletions

[The Slim Reaper]

Based in Utah, there is no way they could do free delivery on packages that size. It'd be more cost effective to just push everything out into the car parks and let the locals take the stuff for free.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes but it said free delivery?
pay on paypal

Has to be a scam then as that would cost more than £28 to deliver .

If you're going to buy anything off Facebook you have to make sure you see it first and pay on collection. Also if you're going to SELL anything on Facebook, take cash only, since people will try to reverse the charges on PayPal and PayPal are notorious for just doing it no questions asked.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Based in Utah, there is no way they could do free delivery on packages that size. It'd be more cost effective to just push everything out into the car parks and let the locals take the stuff for free.

Removed the Link now

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Has to be a scam then as that would cost more than £28 to deliver .

If you're going to buy anything off Facebook you have to make sure you see it first and pay on collection. Also if you're going to SELL anything on Facebook, take cash only, since people will try to reverse the charges on PayPal and PayPal are notorious for just doing it no questions asked.

You click the Photo
takes you to that site

The Link now removed

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

just push everything out into the car parks and let the locals take the stuff for free.

[Smithy]

Arista you always post bloody scams on here

[arista]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Arista you always post bloody scams on here

Good Warning
TS knows these things

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Arista you always post bloody scams on here

You don't get 58 4k televisions showing all news channels in 1080i for nothing you know.

[James]

I've heard of eBay scams where you only get the box. Nothing in it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by James

I've heard of eBay scams where you only get the box. Nothing in it.

Yes
Amazon Return stock, maybe better
if you get a real pallet load, that is.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by James

I've heard of eBay scams where you only get the box. Nothing in it.

Much like FB, only ever buy on eBay using PayPal. They always side with the buyer and you'll get refunded as soon as you put in a request. It's actually much riskier to be the seller as people will SAY they didn't get the item, and eBay will just refund them, while they keep whatever you sold them. Basically makes it impossible to sell anything worth any real amount to anyone on eBay who doesn't have a good buyer feedback score of like 100+... not worth the risk.

Again your best bet for not getting scammed is to sell local and only take cash.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Much like FB, only ever buy on eBay using PayPal. They always side with the buyer and you'll get refunded as soon as you put in a request. It's actually much riskier to be the seller as people will SAY they didn't get the item, and eBay will just refund them, while they keep whatever you sold them. Basically makes it impossible to sell anything worth any real amount to anyone on eBay who doesn't have a good buyer feedback score of like 100+... not worth the risk.

Again your best bet for not getting scammed is to sell local and only take cash.

They don't refund straight away, they do give the seller a chance to respond, I'm pretty sure if the seller can prove that the package was delivered they won't refund you

[James]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Much like FB, only ever buy on eBay using PayPal. They always side with the buyer and you'll get refunded as soon as you put in a request. It's actually much riskier to be the seller as people will SAY they didn't get the item, and eBay will just refund them, while they keep whatever you sold them. Basically makes it impossible to sell anything worth any real amount to anyone on eBay who doesn't have a good buyer feedback score of like 100+... not worth the risk.

Again your best bet for not getting scammed is to sell local and only take cash.

Trouble is there have also been cases of people turning up with cash and getting robbed.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They don't refund straight away, they do give the seller a chance to respond, I'm pretty sure if the seller can prove that the package was delivered they won't refund you

You would think. If a scammer buys a phone from you on ebay, receives and signs for it, takes the phone out, puts in a piece of cardboard in its place, takes a photo and says "this was a scam I only got a piece of cardboard" then ebay/PayPal will side with the buyer no questions asked. If the seller disputes this and says they did send a phone and that the buyer is scamming, they'll be told to report it to the police as a theft (who will do nothing because there's no proof, just one person's word against the other).

They used to be fairer and proof of postage used to be more important, but seller scams were rife (as you could post literally anything to the buyer and get proof of postage... a piece of coal, a tin of beans, whatever) so they started a policy of almost-automatically refunding the buyer. I'm sure if it became a pattern and the same account was doing it constantly then they would flag it up, but otherwise their aim is risk-free buying and the sellers get screwed.

Personally I just wouldn't risk selling on eBay these days.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by James

Trouble is there have also been cases of people turning up with cash and getting robbed.

Standard "meeting random people from the internet" rules apply I would say - arrange to meet somewhere to exchange, don't go to stranger's houses or have them come into your house.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You would think. If a scammer buys a phone from you on ebay, receives and signs for it, takes the phone out, puts in a piece of cardboard in its place, takes a photo and says "this was a scam I only got a piece of cardboard" then ebay/PayPal will side with the buyer no questions asked. If the seller disputes this and says they did send a phone and that the buyer is scamming, they'll be told to report it to the police as a theft (who will do nothing because there's no proof, just one person's word against the other).

They used to be fairer and proof of postage used to be more important, but seller scams were rife (as you could post literally anything to the buyer and get proof of postage... a piece of coal, a tin of beans, whatever) so they started a policy of almost-automatically refunding the buyer. I'm sure if it became a pattern and the same account was doing it constantly then they would flag it up, but otherwise their aim is risk-free buying and the sellers get screwed.

Personally I just wouldn't risk selling on eBay these days.

That's pretty ****. I've only ever bought stuff with Paypal and I did have to make a couple of claims over the years (they were all genuine on my side) and tbf Paypal did refund me but I'm pretty sure Gavin made a complaint with them last year about a top he ordered that was nothing like what it looked like online and they never refunded him for it (would have to double check that with him though)

[bitontheslide]

a few years ago i sold an item on ebay for about £4000 completely ignorant of all the scams that people were doing. It all went through perfectly. I wouldn't consider doing similar these days

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

a few years ago i sold an item on ebay for about £4000 completely ignorant of all the scams that people were doing. It all went through perfectly. I wouldn't consider doing similar these days

You can generally tell from someone's feedback if they're going to be dodgy. If your item gets bought by someone that looks "sus" just remove it from sale and give an excuse - you're technically not supposed to but you can say you went to package it up and found out it's damaged/not working (if it's tech).

When I bought my PS5 the seller wanted to have a back-and-forth chat that went on for 5 or 6 messages before he was confident in putting it in the post . The plus side of that for me is that I did get the impression he was a genuine seller and not a "scalper" who had bought up a tonne of them.