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Old 12-07-2021, 09:14 AM #26
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…just listening to a bit of Gareth Southgate’s press conference …it was being discussed on This Morning and basically saying what you were saying, Slim…the racist language and terminology that Boris Johnson has often used himself and this is the leadership he has ‘led by example with’….and being very much a part of the issue….
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if you google almost any country and add "Racist Trolls" you quicky realise this is not caused by a single government, its worldwide and is down to "anonymous platforms"

ask yourself how nasty and unpleasant this place would be if James said we could have a week with no moderation or comeback?
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there is a big difference between booing a politically driven gesture and out and out abuse of players that make an error in a football match. Lets be clear, look at the abuse that beckham got when he got sent off in a world cup match, other players missing penalties have had similar abuse. It's not just racial, it happens to anyone that messes up
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lol at people thinking anyone remembers what boris johnson said in 2014. We only know about the letter box remarks because the the "not racist" people keep banging on about it.
Get a grip.
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You're not better than anyone else.
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stop smoking, stop gambling, stop wasting money and just feed your ****ing kids
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…racism would exist anyway, even without a leader who has a history of using racist language/terminology….of course, but it should be addressed also when the government are looking at links and associations etc in their reports, which one recently said that there was no racist issues in the U.K….that the leader of the country that commissions the reports has been quoted for racism and homophobia in the past…


…it could be worse…?…is that the standards that make for a healthy or workable society or that make for equality etc….if our own children were being subjected to racist abuse at school, we would say to them…just think, if the staff wasn’t there, though…how nasty it would be, just think on that…
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No one has said it was caused by a single government, so straw men won't get you anywhere.

I will repeat, that the racial hatred and bigotry is being purposefully inflamed and pandered to purely for political gain, and the previous support for the racist boo boys confirms it.

No government invented racism, but plenty have used it.
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there is a big difference between booing a politically driven gesture and out and out abuse of players that make an error in a football match. Lets be clear, look at the abuse that beckham got when he got sent off in a world cup match, other players missing penalties have had similar abuse. It's not just racial, it happens to anyone that messes up
…hateful racial abuse is what’s being used though and it’s what the discussion is…it’s very specific to being abused for race…this isn’t about ‘messing up’ otherwise those players would have been criticised/abused for messing up but they weren’t….
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…crazy when we hope for such high standards in terms of sports play and yet no such high standards when it comes to country leadership….it’s sadly too often a ‘ well others are awful as well..’…type vibe…
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Again, as if 20 something generationally wealthy millionaire footballers are Marxists. Seriously, it's insane to use that as an excuse to side with the boo boys.

To continue making that excuse in the face of what we've witnessed just seems a little confusing.
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It's so saddening that this is how it has all ended, yet it's not the least bit surprising for this country.
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do we even know what country is associated with the abuse - it could all be Russian bots?
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If you look at at the screenshots in the article above (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ist-abuse.html) a lot of them are from Middle Eastern countries, and other parts of the world.

Some of them seem to be English though.

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…a lot in that article seem to be English/UK….the Tesco provider, that would be U.K. users, would it…?….also in another below the two Tesco provider ones there is a reference to ‘get out of my country and back to…..etc….’…so that would indicate U.K. as well…
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…Savills Estate agents have also launched an enquiry linked to some of their staff and racist comments toward the players…
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…where are you looking at, James…that indicates that a lot are from Middle Eastern countries…?…I’m thinking that I’m missing something in looking….
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Oh yes the natural ‘let’s try and find an excuse for some of the comments’ rather than condemning racism, no surprises there.

Regardless of where the comments are coming from, they are racist abusive comments against the England players, but you do you.
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Boris and Pritti have been very vocal in their condemnation

"Mr Johnson said: 'This England team deserve to be lauded as heroes, not racially
abused on social media.

'Those responsible for this appalling abuse should be ashamed of themselves.


Home Secretary Priti Patel also headed up figures slamming the racists.

She said: 'Players who have given so much for our country this summer have been
subject to vile racist abuse on social media.

'It has no place in our country and I back the police to hold those responsible accountable.'"

and

Tory MP Tom Tugendhat condemned tech companies for allowing the racist
abuse to be published on their platforms, saying that firms have "algorithms
that target ads to you but won’t stop the racist abuse against some
exemplary young men".

Mr Tugendhat, chairman of the foreign affairs select committee, said that
those who write the posts are "pathetic and deserve to be identified and face
the public consequences", while "those who publish it are profiting from
hate."

His comments come as the Football Association said that social media
companies "need to step up and take accountability", including taking action
to "ban abusers from their platforms".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/euro-202...dia-euro-2020/
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…where are you looking at, James…that indicates that a lot are from Middle Eastern countries…?…I’m thinking that I’m missing something in looking….
You can look up the Instagram accounts and tell from that where they are from.
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