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Old 23-03-2022, 10:46 AM #26
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No Arista that is a silly suggestion.

Where do they get hot plates? It's a food bank not a soup kitchen.
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There is a New Problem
cutting out Russian Oil and Gas

Have caused all prices of everything
to rise faster.


So the Brexit Reset
is now in the background


As Evil Putin changes the World Economy
France have limited energy rises to 4%. The UK will be paying 54% to companies that made billions last year.
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France have limited energy rises to 4%. The UK will be paying 54% to companies that made billions last year.


Yes at the Time
Macron has an Election, next month
so he is funding their debt.
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No Arista that is a silly suggestion.

Where do they get hot plates? It's a food bank not a soup kitchen.

It is worth a try.
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Macron has an Election, next month
so he is funding their debt.
Our government is putting up tax. Do you see that governments can actually help, and you don't need to defend the fact they are happy to let the poor starve and freeze to death?
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Our government is putting up tax. Do you see that governments can actually help, and you don't need to defend the fact they are happy to let the poor starve and freeze to death?
At this point it's not even just "the poor", between the NI rise, utilities going up 50% (and that's just the start) and the soaring fuel prices, households are going to be down easily Ł300/month. I don't know many people who wouldn't feel that. No it's not as dire as starving or having to go without heating - but there'll be some clear impacts. People have a tendency to "expand into their money" i.e. have a bigger car loan/bigger mortgage/higher rent the more they earn and other financial committments... it's certainly not just those on low income who will struggle to find an extra Ł300 that isn't already tied up.
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He is meant to start now

But PMQ's is still going
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He is meant to start now

But PMQ's is still going
That fine keep me updated
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Our government is putting up tax. Do you see that governments can actually help, and you don't need to defend the fact they are happy to let the poor starve and freeze to death?

Look That Income Tax change
was set before Putin started a War in Ukraine



He is now Live
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Look That Income Tax change
was set before Putin started a War in Ukraine



He is now Live
Putin isn't really having the effect on our cost of living you've been lead to believe. If Russia didn't invade, we'd be having the exact same conversation about the CoL crisis.
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Putin isn't really having the effect on our cost of living you've been lead to believe. If Russia didn't invade, we'd be having the exact same conversation about the CoL crisis.

No as the USA blocking Russian Oil
changed the world markets
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All VAT removed from Solar Panels
and heat pumps.


A rude Labour MP
shouted out "is that it."

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No as the USA blocking Russian Oil
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Can you just explain how you think this is the reason for the CoL crisis, when we already knew it was going to happen before Russia invaded?
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A rude Labour MP
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Starving and freezing folks to death is ok in your book, but questioning the tories is a bridge too far
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[Political artist Kaya Mar with his latest painting
of Rishi Sunak near the Houses of Parliament today]

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Of course not
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[Rishi Sunak's spring statement at a glance:
Fuel duty cut by 5p per litre for a year from 6pm tonight

VAT on household green energy equipment
like solar panels and heat pumps is scrapped

Household Support Fund,
a grant for councils to give to
most vulnerable households, doubled to Ł1billion

National Insurance threshold - the salary at which
it starts to be paid - increased by Ł3,000 to Ł12,570

Sunak says it is Ł6billion tax cut for 30 million people
Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) has
lowered growth forecast to 3.8 per cent this year,
falling to 1.8 per cent in 2023 and then 2.1 per cent,
1.8 per cent and 1.7 per cent in 2024-6

Inflation expected to hit 7.4 per cent
this year. Sunak: 'People should know we will stand
by them as we have in the past two years'
Debt interest payments hit Ł83billion
this year due to inflation]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-crisis.html

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In the past 2 years, the wealth of billionaires has risen by Ł3 trillion.

How about taxing some of that wealth to help the majority of the country.
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My confused. .. it seems a win to have the NIC threshold raised.. however isn't that for NHS benefits and pension contributions? If you don't pay enough won't you be ineligible?
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My confused. .. it seems a win to have the NIC threshold raised.. however isn't that for NHS benefits and pension contributions? If you don't pay enough won't you be ineligible?
I imagine people will get a credit for the first 12,500 then payment kicks in after that
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Again what's the point in cutting fuel tax by 5p/litre if the prices will have gone up another 10p/litre in a couple of weeks anyway. Daft.

NI changes aren't terrible but don't come close to actually covering the increases.

The main thing that needs addressed is energy costs. They're avoiding this like the plague. I reckon the majority can JUST ABOUT handle the 50% increase, a lot of it can be mitigated for most households by having "better practice" with energy but from October onwards it's an abolute ****show, they'll have doubled at least, and at some point in the future they may spiral completely out of control.
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I dont know where this 54% increase is coming from, we got our new DD today and it is closer to 100% rise
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it's all smoke and mirrors in my opinion.

The amount of assistance they are giving people is a piss in the ocean compared to the cost of living increases. If we thought it was bad now, just wait till we get to the last quarter of the year.
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