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Old 02-05-2022, 03:54 AM #1
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Default Twists you’d like to see ITV implement.

I think in season 1 and 2 should relatively twistless… That said I had some ideas that are more series wise;

- nominations points. I’d prefer the BBAU Channel 9 era where HM’s have 5 points they can nominate with. The points can be divided in anyway as long they are divided before two people. If you really want someone up you can give them four points and the remaining one to another. Or split the points 2/3 between two people.
- being able to nominate for strategic purposes. We don’t have to introduce free range discussion of nominations but being able to nominate someone because you think their a threat shouldn’t be controversial.
- minimum 3 nominees with a public vote to save.
- more gamified elements. A return of the Big Coin task would be nice.
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The return of 24 hour/night shift shopping tasks! Always so much better.
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If it does come back, I don’t want to see any nomination twists as all, it needs to be taken back to what it used to be, just a straight anonymous vote and the people with the most nominations, went up for eviction
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I actually was a fan of the secret bedsit/house I'm BB5, BB6 and BB7. I thought they were executed well but after that became a pointless twist as people could guess what was happening. So that won't be able to be done again. The less twists the better imo

And please please do not go for series themes as a twist they never worked! Nice interesting houses yes but not themed!
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If it does come back, I don’t want to see any nomination twists as all, it needs to be taken back to what it used to be, just a straight anonymous vote and the people with the most nominations, went up for eviction
I haven’t suggested anything too crazy. Think of my suggestion as more of a change rather than a twist. The most important aspect is that nominations should be consistent throughout the series. They only started to become problematic when the process would change week to week.
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I actually was a fan of the secret bedsit/house I'm BB5, BB6 and BB7. I thought they were executed well but after that became a pointless twist as people could guess what was happening. So that won't be able to be done again. The less twists the better imo

And please please do not go for series themes as a twist they never worked! Nice interesting houses yes but not themed!
I agree The Bedsit style task has played it course and has no reason to return. I’d said fake evictions on a whole were far too overplayed.

In general the series needs a lot more integrity and production interference. They can easily create natural drama by doing things like allowing HM’s to pick their own roles in task and if there must be a secret mission have it be chosen at random.

I’d also welcome back themeless seasons… Or at least themes that are too specific. A loose theme like “Evil BB” in BB5 or “Twisted BB” in BB7 we’re fine.
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More emphasis on the shopping tasks, which should last for days, and less on the nomination process.

Twists should be related to secret missions, secret rooms, etc. and not related to nomination rigging where BB just changes the outcome of the votes they didn't like.
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Not so much twists but yes I'd always advocate for vote to save over vote to evict, and for minimum 3 people up for eviction as over the years there were some great housemates lost simply because of being head-to-head with another great housemate.

I think there should be OCCASIONAL votes to evict, and occasional head-to-heads, but those should be the exception and for specific reasons.

What absolutely MUST be avoided is the Ch5 era nonsense where they went through a phase of only deciding whether it was Vote to Evict or Vote to Save after they knew the nominations results, so that production could manipulate the likely result
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The points idea could be interesting alright. Also agree with whether its VTE or VTS they need to be clear about that before the nominees are put up. I'd like to see way less manipulation by producers in general
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The points idea could be interesting alright. Also agree with whether its VTE or VTS they need to be clear about that before the nominees are put up. I'd like to see way less manipulation by producers in general
IMO it’s something simple they can add in to the mix without trying to reinvent the wheel. I’m all for this revival going back to the core values of the BB format but at the same time I want to see some forward progress. I also agree that the show needs to be as transparent with the viewers as possible… If they’re going to change things up the announcement needs to happen in advance.
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For me it should always be vote to evict until the final.

Friday nights are EVICTION nights. The crowd chant "Get X Out", not "Save Y & Z".
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Looking at the state of love island, and the fakeness of towie and made on Chelsea...I wouldn't be holding ones breath for improvement, just yet.
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Looking at the state of love island, and the fakeness of towie and made on Chelsea...I wouldn't be holding ones breath for improvement, just yet.
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Agree any first series needs to establish a core format and resist the temptation to throw in twist after twist after twist.

I do agree it should be three rather than two nominees for a revival (and I think that helps resist the temptation for twists too). I'm indifferent on implementing a points system, but I did like the Channel 9 era "Superpower" twist which gives the framework for one player to have some power over the nomination process each week which varies throughout the series, but packaged as a weekly format point rather than random weekly twists to nominations. Prefer vote to evict over vote to save but indifferent really - it is important though for the momentum of the entire series to have big characters in jeopardy and indeed evicted throughout the series. Just getting rid of the "extras" makes the evictions a none event. Viewers need to care who is going.


And on that note keep the number of housemates down too. I don't think ITV2 would run it for much more than 8 weeks (perhaps 9 if they want to go for the classic C4 structure), so for 8 weeks I think 12 HMs is enough with one double eviction along the way leaving 4 in the final week. Any more makes the final a none event - the memorable BB final weeks are BB1-3 where they had just 3 or 4 in the final week. The idea that more finalists makes it more entertaining never actually played out.


As for bigger twists - try and avoid fake evictions and secret bedsits. Keep it simple for now at least. Wouldn't mind us trying out the twin twist.
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I want them to PROPERLY emphasise the psychological aspect of the show, it’s the essence of Big Brother imo. Bring back a “Bit on the Psych” style show with psychologists, design the house in a way that will play with the HM’s mind (think BB5 - lowered ceiling, raised floor, sharp/angled/protruding walls). I want them to go INSANE

Tbh just reinvent the whole concept of BB5 - make it evil, lower the prize fund with each failed task, but still stick to the show’s roots without the manipulation. And LISTEN I don’t want any criticism of how “BB5 led to the slippery slope of BB becoming manipulated” because YEA that might be true but that wasn’t a problem during BB5 itself they just need to make sure they don’t go down that slippery slope again x YEA THATS WAT I THOUGHT
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Not really a twist but they should bring back live feed. Would set it apart from the other reality shows and would really work to build hype for the show in the social media age.

Also probs an unpopular opinion but let them discuss nominations! As long as they don't just show conversations about it like they do on BBUS. I think it really worked in terms of natural drama in BB13.

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Keep Vote To Save. It helps to keep big characters in. It only got bad on C5 when they started putting like 6 people up for every single eviction
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Yeah I agree that going back to basics with live feed would actually set the show apart from everything else on TV at the moment.
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No twists! For the love of Mary!
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