[arista]

I had posted this on Happy MTVN's Scotter thread general chat
but I feel it needs a Full debate, now.


This is terrible.




[A pensioner has died in hospital six days after
she was hit by an e-scooter being ridden
by a 14-year-old boy.

Nottinghamshire Police said 71-year-old
Linda Davis, known to her family and
friends as Lou, was in Southwell Road East,
Rainworth, when the collision involving
a privately-owned electric scooter happened
on the pavement at around 3.50pm on Thursday June 2.

She was taken to hospital but died last Wednesday.

Nottinghamshire Police said in a
statement: "The rider, a 14-year boy, remained
at the scene and contacted emergency services."

"He has since been interviewed under
caution and remains under investigation while enquiries continue."]



The one good thing is
the kid stayed with the
Granny he knocked to the ground.

Sadly, she then died from his actions.


https://www.itv.com/news/central/202...oned-by-police


[Linda Davis (above), 71, known to her family
and friends as Lou, was struck on the
pavement on Southwell Road East,
in Rainworth, Nottinghamshire,
at around 3.50pm on June 2]


[Grandmother, 71, who became
first pedestrian in UK to be killed
by an e-scooter was standing on pavement
browsing in charity shop window when
she was mowed down, friends say
Linda Davis was knocked down by an
e-scooter in Rainworth, Nottinghamshire
She was allegedly browsing outside
charity shop 'Around Again' before the hit
The grandmother, 71, sadly died last
Wednesday following the ordeal
A boy, 14, has been quizzed by police
as the investigation continues]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-pals-say.html

[bitontheslide]

it's pretty simple. its against the law to ride them on the pavement and the kid shouldn't have been riding it on the pavement

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's pretty simple. its against the law to ride them on the pavement and the kid shouldn't have been riding it on the pavement

Yes simple
but loads of young kids are on them
racing down pavements



He goes right into a 71 year old happy lady.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes simple
but loads of young kids are on them
racing down pavements



He goes right into a 71 year old happy lady.

they wont be when they are locked up

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes simple
but loads of young kids are on them
racing down pavements



He goes right into a 71 year old happy lady.

They won't be racing if you clothesline them off as they come past you.

[LeatherTrumpet]

You need to be 16 and have a license too

[Zizu]

He will be told to write out lines .. at home


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

They won't be racing if you clothesline them off as they come past you.

Yes, you need defence.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You need to be 16 and have a license too

This 14 year
did not care

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

This 14 year
did not care

I'd bet it's a feral family

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's pretty simple. its against the law to ride them on the pavement and the kid shouldn't have been riding it on the pavement

Obviously truly tragic for this lady and for her family and friends, but I have to say I do have some sympathy for the kid involved. He is after all just a kid and this will, most likely, be something that affects him for the rest of his life.

I don't say that lightly either; my own grandmother was killed by a teenage driver who came into town over the speed limit, over a blind hill and knocked her down (she died of complications from a head injury a few months later). He was fully to blame for the accident and I'd say behaving in a significantly more reckless manner than the kid in this story, and a few years older, AND having passed a driver's test so far fewer excuses. And it triggered a knock-on effect that saw my mum descend into poor mental health/alcoholism that ultimately killed her, too. But I nonetheless have sympathy for even him. When there's no malice involved and it's someone so young, it's just an all-round ****ed up situation.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Obviously truly tragic for this lady and for her family and friends, but I have to say I do have some sympathy for the kid involved. He is after all just a kid and this will, most likely, be something that affects him for the rest of his life.

I don't say that lightly either; my own grandmother was killed by a teenage driver who came into town over the speed limit, over a blind hill and knocked her down (she died of complications from a head injury a few months later). He was fully to blame for the accident and I'd say behaving in a significantly more reckless manner than the kid in this story, and a few years older, AND having passed a driver's test so far fewer excuses. And it triggered a knock-on effect that saw my mum descend into poor mental health/alcoholism that ultimately killed her, too. But I nonetheless have sympathy for even him. When there's no malice involved and it's someone so young, it's just an all-round ****ed up situation.

I'd imagine his parent knew he had it tho

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I'd imagine his parent knew he had it tho

I was going to say I place more judgement on any adult (if there is one) who aquired the scooter for him and/or continued to allow him to ride it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I'd bet it's a feral family

We are not permitted to find out
as the killer is 14

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I'd imagine his parent knew he had it tho

They may have bought it for him

[LeatherTrumpet]

Ironically there are 2 in tonight's auction, bloody huge things, no wonder that lady died

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You need to be 16 and have a license too

For an e scooter? are you getting confused with a mo-ped?

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I was going to say I place more judgement on any adult (if there is one) who aquired the scooter for him and/or continued to allow him to ride it.

That's very judgemental and I don't agree. We don't know what the parents have or haven't said. I don't think it's fay to pass such flippant judgement like that.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Obviously truly tragic for this lady and for her family and friends, but I have to say I do have some sympathy for the kid involved. He is after all just a kid and this will, most likely, be something that affects him for the rest of his life.

I don't say that lightly either; my own grandmother was killed by a teenage driver who came into town over the speed limit, over a blind hill and knocked her down (she died of complications from a head injury a few months later). He was fully to blame for the accident and I'd say behaving in a significantly more reckless manner than the kid in this story, and a few years older, AND having passed a driver's test so far fewer excuses. And it triggered a knock-on effect that saw my mum descend into poor mental health/alcoholism that ultimately killed her, too. But I nonetheless have sympathy for even him. When there's no malice involved and it's someone so young, it's just an all-round ****ed up situation.

That's sad.



As for this young boy, yes I feel sympathy, it's a sad situation all around. Immature and niave.... The fact he rang for an ambulance says a lot.

I am guessing that he could face a MUDA manslaughter charge with detention in a YOI until 18 then continue the sentence in a prison depending on how long the sentence is... That's if he does get one and whether it be ruled manslaughter or not.

He'll have to live with the guilt for the rest of his life though and the family will have to deal with the grief. Sad all around

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

For an e scooter? are you getting confused with a mo-ped?



That's very judgemental and I don't agree. We don't know what the parents have or haven't said. I don't think it's fay to pass such flippant judgement like that.



That's sad.



As for this young boy, yes I feel sympathy, it's a sad situation all around. Immature and niave.... The fact he rang for an ambulance says a lot.

I am guessing that he could face a MUDA manslaughter charge with detention in a YOI until 18 then continue the sentence in a prison depending on how long the sentence is... That's if he does get one and whether it be ruled manslaughter or not.

He'll have to live with the guilt for the rest of his life though and the family will have to deal with the grief. Sad all around

No he's not confused ~ if privately owned they have to have license and insurance, the hire ones have different rules.

[arista]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

No he's not confused ~ if privately owned they have to have license and insurance, the hire ones have different rules.

Very True
the 14 year old had a Private E Scooter

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

No he's not confused ~ if privately owned they have to have license and insurance, the hire ones have different rules.

Thanks for clarification.

[Vanessa]

The scooters are very dangerous. So many times I've nearly been run over by them on the pavement

[LeatherTrumpet]

On average, a commuter e-scooter weighs 24 lbs, and it can range from 11 lbs to over 300 lbs, depending on the type of electric scooter.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

On average, a commuter e-scooter weighs 24 lbs, and it can range from 11 lbs to over 300 lbs, depending on the type of electric scooter.

That’s a lot of weight / mass when it’s going at 25 mph


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