[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

We've gone so far the other way...that common sense has well and truly left the building. Today on Jeremy Vine ,they were still calling this rapist a "she" .

Do women stop being women if they commit crimes?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Do women stop being women if they commit crimes?

Of course women are still women ...which has nothing to do with this , why are you even comparing?.

We all know predators are exploiting this loophole , and if someone has been assaulted by a man....who still has male body parts ,why should we believe him ,when he conveniently becomes a woman after he's been convicted / arrested.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Of course women are still women ...which has nothing to do with this , why are you even comparing?.

We all know predators are exploiting this loophole , and if someone has been assaulted by a man....who still has male body parts ,why should we believe him ,when he conveniently becomes a woman after he's been convicted / arrested.

I'm not comparing anything, I'm pointing out that to some, transwomen are as female as biological women.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

A sad reality of parenting is that you have to involve yourself in such things - because you can't provide proper context and protection against social contagion if you're caught on the back foot.

Any parent of a teenager who isn't ok TikTok is asleep at the wheel. I genuinely believe that.

By the time the boys at my daughter's school started coming out with Andrew Tate crap, we already had her pre-prepped with all of the info she needed about people like Tate, how he operates, what his social media followers and acolytes are all about, plus a full history of Reddit redpill and how to handle those sorts of idiots.

You have to know what you're looking at to nip it in the bud.

At this point in time Andrew Tate has been kidnapped and is basically a political Prisoner.

You should have pre-prepared them on those that actually believe they hold power over you.

[parmnion]

This story reminds me off my 2 paedophiles faking being gay so they can adopt worries.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Alf

At this point in time Andrew Tate has been kidnapped and is basically a political Prisoner.

You should have pre-prepared them on those that actually believe they hold power over you.

He's not a political prisoner, he's a self-confessed pimp being held on sex trafficking charges.

What's more "real" in the life of a teenage girl in the UK, Alf:

1) conspiracy theories about "The Matrix coming for you to hold power over you"

2) cackling teenage boys with ****-eating grins, bullying girls, getting aggressive, and openly threatening sexual assault on a casual Tuesday afternoon in maths class.

I have a daughter who is out there trying to navigate the world around her, full of angry young boys with heads full of pornified nonsense peddled to them by a goblin-faced sex trafficking incel. She's not sat at home on the couch, browsing the internet and getting worried about the grand political tides of the New World Order. Get a grip. I can tell you for a fact that she's more at risk from the bitter, jaded redpill lads at her school than she is from some vague "holders of power out there somewhere".

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

He's not a political prisoner, he's a self-confessed pimp being held on sex trafficking charges.

What's more "real" in the life of a teenage girl in the UK, Alf:

1) conspiracy theories about "The Matrix coming for you to hold power over you"

2) cackling teenage boys with ****-eating grins, bullying girls, getting aggressive, and openly threatening sexual assault on a casual Tuesday afternoon in maths class.

I have a daughter who is out there trying to navigate the world around her, full of angry young boys with heads full of pornified nonsense peddled to them by a goblin-faced sex trafficking incel. She's not sat at home on the couch, browsing the internet and getting worried about the grand political tides of the New World Order. Get a grip. I can tell you for a fact that she's more at risk from the bitter, jaded redpill lads at her school than she is from some vague "holders of power out there somewhere".

Sounds like you're raising her to be a man hater. So she'll never have a real man about to protect her, she'll only have her cats.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Sounds like you're raising her to be a man hater. So she'll never have a real man about to protect her, she'll only have her cats.

Cats are great though


Sounds like TS is raising his daughters to be able to protect themselves and find a partner who respects them

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Sounds like you're raising her to be a man hater. So she'll never have a real man about to protect her, she'll only have her cats.

You clearly have no idea the effect that social media presences like Tate have had on young boys Alf. These lads are putting their hands round girl's necks for saying no to going to the cinema with them. Certainly not about man hating, anyone who has these boys best interests at heart will keep them as far away from these influences as possible, because they're otherwise going to end up sad & alone on Reddit forums talking about how awful women are... for the rest of their lives.

That's if they don't end up getting so frustrated and violent with someone that they end up in jail instead.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

You clearly have no idea the effect that social media presences like Tate have had on young boys Alf. These lads are putting their hands round girl's necks for saying no to going to the cinema with them. Certainly not about man hating, anyone who has these boys best interests at heart will keep them as far away from these influences as possible, because they're otherwise going to end up sad & alone on Reddit forums talking about how awful women are... for the rest of their lives.

That's if they don't end up getting so frustrated and violent with someone that they end up in jail instead.

What's the difference with Tate talking about how woeful women are and the tens of thousands of women who talk about how woeful men are?

[Alf]

Do you think those man hating feminists are just as dangerous with their opinions as you believe Tate is?

[Soldier Boy]

I'm not getting into this on here Alf, you clearly don't know half of what Andrew Tate peddles or what he's done (or you believe the conspiracy nonsense that he's being framed) and the question above - "isn't man-hating just as bad as violent men threatening women" - is just too deep into Redpill rhetoric for me to even bother addressing. For what it's worth I hope you escape the clutches of this chronically online propaganda eventually because it genuinely makes me sad to think that you might be lonely forever.

[AnnieK]

I have a pre-teen son and I regularly go through his internet history - but we do it together and discuss what he's been watching. He is hitting puberty like a train and as all kids his age is glued to his phone. He is still (thankfully) very open with me and more into gaming than girls at the minute but we have had a lot of communication from school regarding questionable sites that some of the kids have been accessing....

They have access to so much that it is very easy for them to slip down some pretty dodgy wormholes.

Prior research and open and honest dialogue with kids is required to make sure they are not flooded with toxic content.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I'm not getting into this on here Alf, you clearly don't know half of what Andrew Tate peddles or what he's done (or you believe the conspiracy nonsense that he's being framed) and the question above - "isn't man-hating just as bad as violent men threatening women" - is just too deep into Redpill rhetoric for me to even bother addressing. For what it's worth I hope you escape the clutches of this chronically online propaganda eventually because it genuinely makes me sad to think that you might be lonely forever.

Well so far they haven't charged him with anything or provided any evidence against him yet have him locked up.

If he's done something criminal then charge him and produce the evidence. It isn't much to ask when you're locking someone up.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I have had the whole Tate discussion with smallest boy LT also

but luckily he has 2 older sisters who also have told him

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I have a pre-teen son and I regularly go through his internet history - but we do it together and discuss what he's been watching. He is hitting puberty like a train and as all kids his age is glued to his phone. He is still (thankfully) very open with me and more into gaming than girls at the minute but we have had a lot of communication from school regarding questionable sites that some of the kids have been accessing....

They have access to so much that it is very easy for them to slip down some pretty dodgy wormholes.

Prior research and open and honest dialogue with kids is required to make sure they are not flooded with toxic content.

Spot on

[Alf]

Did you have the Jo Brand discussion with your kids?

Are some parents having the Sam Smith discussion right now?

[bitontheslide]

The only way to counteract the mess that is the internet is education and who better than parents educating their children on these topics

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I'm not getting into this on here Alf, you clearly don't know half of what Andrew Tate peddles or what he's done (or you believe the conspiracy nonsense that he's being framed) and the question above - "isn't man-hating just as bad as violent men threatening women" - is just too deep into Redpill rhetoric for me to even bother addressing. For what it's worth I hope you escape the clutches of this chronically online propaganda eventually because it genuinely makes me sad to think that you might be lonely forever.

I honestly don't know why anyone would still make excuses or downplay Tate's actions. He's a sleaze bag through and through.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I honestly don't know why anyone would still make excuses or downplay Tate's actions. He's a sleaze bag through and through.

What were his actions? If people knew them then maybe they wouldn't down play them.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well so far they haven't charged him with anything or provided any evidence against him yet have him locked up.

If he's done something criminal then charge him and produce the evidence. It isn't much to ask when you're locking someone up.

He's been locked up on charges relating to activities related to organised crime, sex trafficking and rape. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Where did you hear that he hasn't been charged? That's what I mean Alf, you really need to question these sources.

Do you mean why is he locked up if he hasn't yet been convicted of the charges? If so that's because he's a flight risk and would (almost definitely) attempt to leave the country so he's been denied bail.

But yeah, those are the charges. To say these are no charges is just nonsense but it's what I see from Redpillers and Tate fans all the time, which makes me think you're listening to some very dodgy people.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Alf

What were his actions? If people knew them then maybe they wouldn't down play them.

"Lover boy" exploitation and sex trafficking, fraud, theft by deception... All of which he openly admitted to on his own websites - probably not realising it was illegal.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Did you have the Jo Brand discussion with your kids?

Are some parents having the Sam Smith discussion right now?

If by Jo Brand you mean "be careful what you say in the Internet" (refer g to her stupid comment about acid attacks) then yes, all the time.

If by "The Sam Smith discussion" you means issues relating to gender and/or porn culture then... Yes, all the time.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

"Lover boy" exploitation and sex trafficking, fraud, theft by deception... All of which he openly admitted to on his own websites - probably not realising it was illegal.

More like not giving a damn if it was illegal...I would say.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I honestly don't know why anyone would still make excuses or downplay Tate's actions. He's a sleaze bag through and through.

I don’t know much , if anything, about him ( I only see disparaging comments though ) Sadly many , many teenage lads idolise him


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