[Oliver_W]

At a speaking event in Auckland, New Zealand, pro-female speaker Posie Parker had to be swept away in a car to save her life from the vicious hatemob which had amassed.

The below livestream shows the full event, from her arriving in her car to having to be rescued.

Livefeed

Youtube video

"Highlight" Reel

Youtube video

[arista]

"pro-female speaker"


They do not like them.................

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

"pro-female speaker"


They do not like them.................

why not? we make up over 50% of the population ...our voices matter as do transwomen but its not an either or situation...these mobs have nothing to do with trans people...they are women haters

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

"pro-female speaker"


They do not like them.................

Who does not like whom?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Who does not like whom?

The local people in NZ,
do not like her

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

why not? we make up over 50% of the population ...our voices matter as do transwomen but its not an either or situation...these mobs have nothing to do with trans people...they are women haters

Sure
But New Zealand do not like
Pro Women Speakers.


Like the President
was hated
she had to go...................

[arista]

Posie Parker leaves New Zealand after chaotic protests


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...protests-erupt

[Niamh.]

I don't care what side of the fence you stand on this issue. When women are literally being attacked and threatened for speaking then there's a huge problem here. You can't claim to be "on the right side of history" and condone this behaviour (or worse take part in it) There's a video showing a man punching a 70 year old woman in the face twice as well

[bitontheslide]

i saw a very interesting video the other day

Youtube video

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i saw a very interesting video the other day

Youtube video

yep excellent points

[The Slim Reaper]

I don't agree with this, but you do realise she is really close with the Nazis? I don't mean "people I don't like on the internet" kind of Nazis, but the real ones. As she hates trans people now, is how she has spoken out against other minority groups previously

This is a really weird movement for personality cults, and as I've predicted and tried to warn you about, the links between this movement and the far right is becoming increasingly closer and closer, but good luck to anyone on their "definitely the right side of history" quest, but I guess the biggest problems with Jews in the 1930's is that they didn't show the Germans enough reverence.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't agree with this, but you do realise she is really close with the Nazis? I don't mean "people I don't like on the internet" kind of Nazis, but the real ones. As she hates trans people now, is how she has spoken out against other minority groups previously

This is a really weird movement for personality cults, and as I've predicted and tried to warn you about, the links between this movement and the far right is becoming increasingly closer and closer, but good luck to anyone on their "definitely the right side of history" quest, but I guess the biggest problems with Jews in the 1930's is that they didn't show the Germans enough reverence.

she is really close with the Nazis?


really, do tell us more

[The Slim Reaper]

I remember when I got told saying "tibb likes the daily mail" was baiting, and yet some weirdos on here never have to contribute to a discussion and get to write weirdo nonsense under the posts of others, with a permanent green light.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

"People who call people Nazis these days are historically illiterate"

[Cherie]

She responded to the accusation that she is on board with Nazi’s ....there were 6 different groups at this rally for example, none of whom were invited ...I presume one of the groups might have been Evangelists..that doesn’t make her one, if there is concrete evidence out there that she is a Nazi we need to see it?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She responded to the accusation that she is on board with Nazi’s ....there were 6 different groups at this rally for example, none of whom were invited ...I presume one of the groups might have been Evangelists..that doesn’t make her one, if there is concrete evidence out there that she is a Nazi we need to see it?

the left are trying desperately to pin guilty by association on her

pathetic

JK Rowling just retweeted:

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't agree with this, but you do realise she is really close with the Nazis? I don't mean "people I don't like on the internet" kind of Nazis, but the real ones.

Which ones, in what way?

Is this in any other way than them gatecrashing her events?

[Cherie]

I imagine all those peaceful people protesting about pensions in France are just thugs who want to start fires and damage property in reality

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Which ones, in what way?

Is this in any other way than them gatecrashing her events?

Co-opting is not gatecrashing. If I held a rally, do you know which group of people wouldn't feel as though I said anything which could be co-opted by them? Nazi's, white supremacists, and those quoting Mein Kampf.

There is a lot more out there about poor, unfortunate, Posie, who for some reason has nazi's speaking about the same issues as her, at her own rallies, but I only came in to make one post, and I've now made 4 or 5, so you can do your own research if you're interested enough. I already know that most in this thread won't be (not you, Oliver).

[LeatherTrumpet]

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Co-opting is not gatecrashing. If I held a rally, do you know which group of people wouldn't feel as though I said anything which could be co-opted by them? Nazi's, white supremacists, and those quoting Mein Kampf.

Because most the things about which you'd hold a rally probably wouldn't have very many fellow-travelers among the undesirables you mentioned. Some of the various "Nazi"-types were likely there for being anti-trans, rather than pro-woman.

What is there to suggest Posie is close to any of those who also joined?

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't agree with this, but you do realise she is really close with the Nazis? I don't mean "people I don't like on the internet" kind of Nazis, but the real ones. As she hates trans people now, is how she has spoken out against other minority groups previously

This is a really weird movement for personality cults, and as I've predicted and tried to warn you about, the links between this movement and the far right is becoming increasingly closer and closer,

I 100% agree with you up until this point but this is where I find the bias and blinkers come in;

but good luck to anyone on their "definitely the right side of history" quest, but I guess the biggest problems with Jews in the 1930's is that they didn't show the Germans enough reverence.

Yes, the rise of the right is terrifying and they are quite clearly and at this point openly piggybacking on this issue - however - the whole thing is reaching boiling point, which is of course the mechanism for escalation and really the whole point. There has been a clear, demonstrable and becoming-exponential increase in violence coming from "the community" (I'm not going to say the left because we know it's not an accurate descriptor at this point).

There's been a recent flip in perpetrators of shootings from the classic "frustrated incel" to members of the LGBTQ community (multiple examples). Gatherings where there are counter-protests with large turnouts like this are becoming increasingly violent from the outset (people declaring violent intent in the run up, not just escalation on the day).

There's an aggressive quasi-religious crusade-esque element rapidly simmering up in the LGBTQ community at the same time as the worrying emboldening of the far right (the outright classically religious far-right, too, the bible thumpers are all over this).

There's no "right side of history" to be on at this point other than the side of some sort of rationality and reason ... unfortunately, that's rarely where history is made.

There's a real hesitance to talk about the things above though from some quarters. And not people arguing that it isn't the case ... just a deafening silence and determination to pretend that there aren't clear and present elements of radicalisation occurring within the LGBTQ community.

The elephant in the room is that radicalised people throughout history have had obvious and understandable reasons for going down that path, whether they're from Belfast, Baghdad, Reddit or Discord. One man's terrorist is the next woman's freedom fighter, etc.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What is there to suggest Posie is close to any of those who also joined?

Sorry Oliver I disagree, Posie Parker is not operating in good faith and is a complete liability for anyone who wants genuine sensible discourse to resume at any time soon.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Sorry Oliver I disagree, Posie Parker is not operating in good faith and is a complete liability for anyone who wants genuine sensible discourse to resume at any time soon.

Okay, so what is there to suggest she's doing this for anything but women's rights?

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Okay, so what is there to suggest she's doing this for anything but women's rights?

There obviously can never be "evidence" for any individuals internal overall motivations one way or the other because ultimately they're only known by that person; she may or may not have the over-arching goal of protecting women's spaces. However she courts the alt-right to gain notoriety, funding and a platform and (albeit, just observationally) ... she's just plain starting to sound and look like an alt-righter.