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Sainsbury's has defended its new minced beef packaging after some shoppers complained it turned the meat to mush.

The store explained the mince was being vacuum packed to use 55% less plastic.

It came after shoppers expressed their distaste, with one saying the meat now resembled "a rectangle of mushed off cuts" and another "someone's kidney".

The meat had been packaged in a plastic tray covered with film but Sainsbury's has now printed leaflets to explain the eco-friendly change.

The supermarket had announced it was "the first UK retailer to vacuum pack all beef mince saving 450 tonnes of plastic each year".

Vicki Cole, from Huddersfield, buys on average four 750g packs of mince per month for her batch cooking.

"Minced beef is really versatile and reheats well so I make a lot of cottage pie, lasagne, chilli and a keema curry," she said.

But she spotted the difference while doing her food shop.

"I was looking at it and there was a lady filling the fridges and she said 'it's new packaging but it's exactly the same mince' and so I put two packs in my trolley out of necessity really."

When Mrs Cole opened the pack at home she said it looked "pretty unappetising".

"They've sucked all the air out and squashed it so it plopped out of the packet and into the frying pan in a big rectangular clump," she said.

"As I started breaking it up with the wooden spatula it was staying in big balls that were cooking on the outside but not the inside."

Mrs Cole said it took her 40 minutes to cook and was therefore tougher and chewier.

She said Sainsbury's had offered her a refund in Nectar points which she will accept but said she wanted the store to rethink the change.

"I get that we need to use less plastic," she said. "But unless they find an alternative that's going to work they're going to lose customers because I shan't be buying it from there. They need to listen to the feedback."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65124883

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[arista]

[She said Sainsbury's had offered her a refund
in Nectar points which she will accept but said
she wanted the store to rethink the change.]

Good she got a Refund

[Cherie]

It looks very odd

[Kazanne]

Maybe they should just pack what it,actually is,it's part if a once living animal,and they have the cheek to complain that it doesn't look how they think it should,humans are a strange lot.

[Gusto Brunt]

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maybe they should just pack what it,actually is,it's part if a once living animal,and they have the cheek to complain that it doesn't look how they think it should,humans are a strange lot.

Well that animal should start paying its taxes like the rest of us. It just expects to be waited on hand and foot without giving anything back. It sh1ts all over the place and doesn't even clean up after itself. It's neither use nor ornament.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maybe they should just pack what it,actually is,it's part if a once living animal,and they have the cheek to complain that it doesn't look how they think it should,humans are a strange lot.

I have to leap in and say to you well said there Kazanne.
I agree.

[MTVN]

Very grim, would not buy

[user104658]

We've been getting Hello Fresh and that's how the mince is packaged - the method of cooking it is slightly different but it doesn't take any longer, and it ends up exactly the same... she just needs practice .

(For anyone interested - rather than scattering it into the pan, it does come out in one big ... slab ... then sort of breaks into larger "balls" or clumps at first - but if you let it brown a bit and then press down on it with the back of a spatula it breaks up like normal . I have no idea how she managed to cook it for 40 minutes .)

[Crimson Dynamo]

I had 2 Hello Fresh people at my door yesterday as it goes

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have to leap in and say to you well said there Kazanne.
I agree.

Thankyou Joey,i can never understand people who claim to love animals ,then sit down and eat them, the fear ,abuse and pain they go through for a 5 mins meal just does not equate to love.Its like these farmers moaning about lambs being attacked by dogs which should never happen,but the farmers arent bothered about the lambs its all about the money they will lose,these poor little lambs will be slaughtered so humans can celebrate Easter WFT,is the matter with folk.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well that animal should start paying its taxes like the rest of us. It just expects to be waited on hand and foot without giving anything back. It sh1ts all over the place and doesn't even clean up after itself. It's neither use nor ornament.

Well its obviously useful to you Alf,you use it as food.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Thankyou Joey,i can never understand people who claim to love animals ,then sit down and eat them, the fear ,abuse and pain they go through for a 5 mins meal just does not equate to love.Its like these farmers moaning about lambs being attacked by dogs which should never happen,but the farmers arent bothered about the lambs its all about the money they will lose,these poor little lambs will be slaughtered so humans can celebrate Easter WFT,is the matter with folk.

Once I decided to stop eating meat and I was always uncomfortable eating it anyhow for a long while.
I've NEVER missed it.
I enjoy a plate of vegetables,the choice is endless, salads, too obviously.
Fruit as well.
I don't even bother with things that are called meat substitutes.

Fortunately the people I mix with now get I'm vegetarian.
They sometimes make a vegetable dish for me if I'm going for a meal.
It's not necessary though.
I'm happy with that plate of vegetables or even a salad.
I don't look for special treatment.

Really though, that packaging of a former living being looks really gross in that picture.
To me anyhow.

[Crimson Dynamo]

its a rather silly woke commercial error

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Once I decided to stop eating meat and I was always uncomfortable eating it anyhow for a long while.
I've NEVER missed it.
I enjoy a plate of vegetables,the choice is endless, salads, too obviously.
Fruit as well.
I don't even bother with things that are called meat substitutes.

Fortunately the people I mix with now get I'm vegetarian.
They sometimes make a vegetable dish for me if I'm going for a meal.
It's not necessary though.
I'm happy with that plate of vegetables or even a salad.
I don't look for special treatment.

Really though, that packaging of a former living being looks really gross in that picture.
To me anyhow.

I also don't get why vegans and vegetarians get so much grief for chosing not to partake in the killing of millions of animals.

[MTVN]

Millions of animals simply wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the food industry so maybe it's the vegetarians and vegans who want to kill them all

[Alf]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Millions of animals simply wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the food industry so maybe it's the vegetarians and vegans who want to kill them all

I can understand them not eating meat if they don't like the taste. But I think they're just punishing themselves. It's like them religious people who do things like take a vow of celibacy.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Millions of animals simply wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the food industry so maybe it's the vegetarians and vegans who want to kill them all

Better not to exist at all ,than to live the miserable abusive short life many live,just to be slaughtered for human consumption,maybe stop breeding them in their millions might be,a start.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

I can understand them not eating meat if they don't like the taste. But I think they're just punishing themselves. It's like them religious people who do things like take a vow of celibacy.

The only thing that is punished are the animals who are killed for some to eat,its nothing to do with religion, its caring for other sentient beings.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The only thing that is punished are the animals who are killed for some to eat,its nothing to do with religion, its caring for other sentient beings.

If we don't eat we die. We'd still have to kill plants to survive, so someone has to die. That's the circle of life. It's not your fault that that's the way it is. You have nothing to feel guilty for.

[Alf]

Everyone already knows you're a good well liked person Kaz. You don't need to sacrifice a good tasty meal to prove that. You don't need to prove anything to anyone.

Now go and tuck in to a nice juicy burger.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I also don't get why vegans and vegetarians get so much grief for chosing not to partake in the killing of millions of animals.

I don't get that either, and I do eat Meat.

Personally people should be allowed to eat what they want, as long as it's nothing illegal like cannibalism.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I don't get that either, and I do eat Meat.

Personally people should be allowed to eat what they want, as long as it's nothing illegal like cannibalism.

Let me explain it to you then. They get grief because they give it out. They go around thinking and sometimes saying that we're murderers whilst all we think of them is that they're confused and wish them to just enjoy themselves instead of suppressing themselves.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

Let me explain it to you then. They get grief because they give it out. They go around thinking and sometimes saying that we're murderers whilst all we think of them is that they're confused and wish them to just enjoy themselves instead of suppressing themselves.

But why does anyone care what the other person eats? As long as it isn't anything criminal or severely damaging their health anyway.

I'm saying this for both sides.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But why does anyone care what the other person eats? As long as it isn't anything criminal or severely damaging their health anyway.

I'm saying this for both sides.

We don't care, but when people see us as immoral for doing something natural then we're gonna argue our case against them.

I too don't like that I have to argue this case against Kaz because I like Kaz, and she's not really the one calling people immoral, but some do. However. I'm gonna fight the corner of nature on this one.