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23-05-2023, 07:14 AM | #1 | |||
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[Rioters attack police on Cardiff estate after two teenagers die in e-scooter crash - but force hits back at social media rumours of a 'chase' and insist accident had 'already occurred' when they arrived Hundreds of rioters clashed with police in Snowden Road, Ely, on Monday night Chaotic scenes as thugs attacked riot officers and set vehicles on fire in Cardiff] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...h-Cardiff.html https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65677472 https://news.sky.com/story/cardiff-p...scene-12887256 Last edited by arista; 23-05-2023 at 07:15 AM. |
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23-05-2023, 09:02 AM | #2 | |||
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Sounds confusing - how are the riots and the escooter crash connected?
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23-05-2023, 04:53 PM | #3 | |||
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so the police lied about only arriving after the accident had happened, and they were in fact following them when it happened
The police just get worse and worse South Wales Police and Crime Commissioner Alun Michael declined to comment on social media footage appearing to show a police van following two people on either a moped or electric bike, apparently minutes before the crash. He said: "You should examine the carefully-worded statement from the chief superintendent." Last edited by bots; 23-05-2023 at 04:58 PM. |
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23-05-2023, 05:09 PM | #4 | |||
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Although a Police Van was following
the Electric Scooter. But in the Crash the 2 lads hit a Car Police were not with them as the died in a crash with a car Last edited by arista; 23-05-2023 at 05:20 PM. |
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23-05-2023, 05:12 PM | #5 | |||
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Kyrees Sullivan, 15, and Harvey Evans, 16,
Both Died as they hit a Car. They are to blame it was their own fault speeding the bike Last edited by arista; 23-05-2023 at 05:14 PM. |
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23-05-2023, 05:13 PM | #6 | |||
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The 2 Dead lads
Photo when they were younger Last edited by arista; 23-05-2023 at 05:21 PM. |
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23-05-2023, 05:18 PM | #7 | |||
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Dead : Harvey Evans |
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23-05-2023, 05:19 PM | #8 | |||
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Dead : Kyrees Sullivan |
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23-05-2023, 05:22 PM | #9 | |||
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the police still lied about their involvement
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23-05-2023, 05:26 PM | #10 | |||
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23-05-2023, 05:29 PM | #11 | |||
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Why lie about it if you’ve got nothing to hide
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23-05-2023, 05:33 PM | #12 | |||
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23-05-2023, 06:12 PM | #13 | |||
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Sure But the 2 lads died hitting a Car. Last edited by arista; 23-05-2023 at 06:13 PM. |
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23-05-2023, 06:14 PM | #14 | |||
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23-05-2023, 06:15 PM | #15 | |||
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Dead: Harvey Evans |
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23-05-2023, 06:16 PM | #16 | |||
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Big Clear up. Last edited by arista; 23-05-2023 at 06:18 PM. |
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23-05-2023, 06:41 PM | #17 | |||
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23-05-2023, 06:53 PM | #18 | |||
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Pictures of the boys tells me all I need to know.
Arrest the rioters Scum
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24-05-2023, 09:49 AM | #19 | |||
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24-05-2023, 10:35 AM | #20 | |||
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This is very complicated because the idea is that the crash occurred because they were being followed and they would otherwise have been riding around carefully and the crash wouldn't have happened, rather than that they were being followed by police because they were already riding around thrillseeking/dangerously and an accident happening was already a high risk ...
As tragic as it is for young people to lose their lives like this, I think the latter seems probable, and they weren't out collecting groceries for elderly people on the scooter. IMO the message needs to be clear; these kids lost their lives because they were joyriding around in a dangerous manner and their lives were at risk the moment they stepped onto the e-scooter with the intention of using it like a fairground ride. Because kids are currently doing that up and down the country, and more are going to be hurt/killed. The idea that "they would have been fine if the police had just left them to it!" is really worrying and dangerous. It might prompt hesitance in officers to stop other kids they see doing the same thing and turn a blind eye, which will result in more accidents, not fewer. Last edited by Quantum Boy; 24-05-2023 at 10:37 AM. |
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24-05-2023, 10:46 AM | #21 | |||
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If they're getting chased by the Police, then they should pull over, it's as simple as that. If you run from the Police, they're gonna chase you. While it's tragic that they lost their lives, you can't blame anyone but themselves. If you play with feathers, you're gonna get your arse tickled.
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24-05-2023, 01:08 PM | #22 | |||
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24-05-2023, 01:16 PM | #23 | |||
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I literally hate it when they put things like this down to kids living in deprived areas... there are many kids from deprived areas who do not cause issues for the general public
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24-05-2023, 02:03 PM | #24 | |||
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Also I have no idea what the police following were thinking saying they were not involved how stupid to think there would be no video evidence, and finally setting fire to peoples hard earned cars in a deprived area does not see like much of a stance to me
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24-05-2023, 02:11 PM | #25 | |||
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it's a mess, of course the police have to maintain law and order on the road and it can be a tricky balancing act between getting involved in a chase, but they should have come clean about the vans presence. The blanket denial just makes them look really bad
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