[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The Metro reports that a teacher has
lost his job after writing a Facebook post
taking on teenagers who made threats
against his wife.]



https://metro.co.uk/2023/05/30/teach...wife-18867572/

[A primary school teacher has been sacked
for writing a Facebook post after yobs threatened
to murder and rape his family, he has claimed.

Michael Flynn allegedly broke the school’s
social media policy by saying he would
‘sort out’ the youngsters who terrorised him
in his assisted-living home.

The 52-year-old said the group threatened
to have his wife Angela stabbed and raped
after she caught them trying to steal
a bicycle on Tuesday.

Mr Flynn then wrote on Facebook:
‘Four kids tried to steal a pushbike
from my front garden.
When challenged they were verbally abusive
and threatening to my wife.]



[Primary school teacher Michael Flynn
(pictured with his wife Angela) claims he has
been sacked over a Facebook post he made
after yobs threatened to murder and rape his family]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rder-wife.html

[Alf]

Good on him if they did make those alleged threats to his Mrs and family. You can stick your social media policy right up your brown tea-towel holder if your family is being threatened.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Good on him if they did make those alleged threats to his Mrs and family. You can stick your social media policy right up your brown tea-towel holder if your family is being threatened.

Yes he must protect his Wife


But his Error
was using Facebook.

Now he is Fired.

[Mystic Mock]

Unfortunately for him, he is probably being held to a higher standard by the School because his the adult in the situation.

I think for the students in question who made the threats, I'd give them two punishments.

1. Have the Police come around to give them a scare, but not really charge them with anything. Just show them what will happen if they threaten to harm anyone again.

2. Give them Detention after School for a whole year.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Unfortunately for him, he is probably being held to a higher standard by the School because his the adult in the situation.

I think for the students in question who made the threats, I'd give them two punishments.

1. Have the Police come around to give them a scare, but not really charge them with anything. Just show them what will happen if they threaten to harm anyone again.

2. Give them Detention after School for a whole year.

They aren't at school though mock , they're out stealing other peoples bikes.

[bitontheslide]

He effectively took the law into his own hands, and that rarely ends well

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Unfortunately for him, he is probably being held to a higher standard by the School because his the adult in the situation.

I think for the students in question who made the threats, I'd give them two punishments.

1. Have the Police come around to give them a scare, but not really charge them with anything. Just show them what will happen if they threaten to harm anyone again.

2. Give them Detention after School for a whole year.

I think you are spot on with your assessment ..

Sadly many kidz have no respect for anyone let alone the police ( who they don’t fear these days )

Sadly many pupils simply don’t attend after school detention ..


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[Soldier Boy]

They're the kids and he's the adult, and he's a primary school teacher who is (and should be) held to a higher standard. He should have gone straight to the police and handled it officially.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

They're the kids and he's the adult, and he's a primary school teacher who is (and should be) held to a higher standard. He should have gone straight to the police and handled it officially.

Agreed …

Or just ignore it and try and move on ..

The police probably won’t do much and it won’t stop the kids from hassling them anyways.. if he’d reported it then that may have made the thugs more determined.


Strange times


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[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Agreed …

Or just ignore it and try and move on ..

The police probably won’t do much and it won’t stop the kids from hassling them anyways.. if he’d reported it then that may have made the thugs more determined.


Strange times


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IMO it's worth reporting these things anyway as it can be used as a timeline of escalation if things do continue. You can ask the police just to record the incident and not take any action, but basically means that if there's a history of logged complaints and something more serious DOES happen like an assault or serious vandalism/destruction of property, the police will take it more seriously if there's a history of reports.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

They aren't at school though mock , they're out stealing other peoples bikes.

And they'll probably continue getting away with it . I hate stories like this... whether the teacher should or shouldn't have posted on social media is another thing,but he was protecting his family against threats. So it's hardly fair that he's lost his job over it.

[Niamh.]

Firing him was harsh I think

[Soldier Boy]

I agree but I would be verrrrrrry surprised if there isn't more to this (i.e. previous misconduct and warnings).

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Firing him was harsh I think

And more crimes will go unreported. People feel powerless in these situations, I agree with SB with logging everything...as atleast you have some type of evidence.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I agree but I would be verrrrrrry surprised if there isn't more to this (i.e. previous misconduct and warnings).

Yeah maybe so

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Unfortunately for him, he is probably being held to a higher standard by the School because his the adult in the situation.

I think for the students in question who made the threats, I'd give them two punishments.

1. Have the Police come around to give them a scare, but not really charge them with anything. Just show them what will happen if they threaten to harm anyone again.

2. Give them Detention after School for a whole year.

Or... Throw them in borstal for 18 months.

[arista]

It Now Appears he was Fired
for

[He was forced out for challenging staff who 'cheated'
during Ofsted inspection]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rder-wife.html

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

It Now Appears he was Fired
for

[He was forced out for challenging staff who 'cheated'
during Ofsted inspection]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rder-wife.html

Sounds like a decent guy


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[Soldier Boy]

Nahhh these were his OWN pupils, primary school pupils, and he wrote unambiguously threatening messages on Social Media. There's no way he could stay on. This victim narrative that he's been targeted for whistleblowing is just sad and undignified.

You may want to contact me before I contact the police. Twydall is a small place and I will find him sooner or later,' he wrote.

'So, if you want to sort this out calmly, I suggest the parents PM (private message) me or I will sort this out my way

Just not an appropriate response to primary-school aged kids mouthing off -- it doesn't even look like a viable threat. If these were teenage boys I'd have more sympathy but they're children playing at billy big bollocks... most likely would have **** themselves if a police car rolled up at their house.

A grown man threatening children on open social media for any reason is just nonsense, not really defensible. When you work with kids, you need a full disclosure document to prove that you're suitable to work with kids. "Thinly veiled threats to their parents of retaliationary violence against a group of kids" is a big fat fail. Should he be "punished" for it? No, not in the sense of punitive action for punitive action's sake, but he absolutely should have a black mark on his disclosure status and not be working with children.

[bitontheslide]

only someone with serious anger issues would mouth off at kids on social media. He shouldn't be working with kids

[thesheriff443]

Post police in the office today

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

only someone with serious anger issues would mouth off at kids on social media. He shouldn't be working with kids

Indeed, it's one thing if he'd just had a rant at home or at the time, but taking the time to type out a message on local Social Media (and surely in full knowledge that it was a bad idea in terms of his job) means to me that he was angry enough to simply not care about the consequences ... which I think could be referred to as "hot-headedness". Not really a quality you'd put on your CV to be a primary school teacher.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Indeed, it's one thing if he'd just had a rant at home or at the time, but taking the time to type out a message on local Social Media (and surely in full knowledge that it was a bad idea in terms of his job) means to me that he was angry enough to simply not care about the consequences ... which I think could be referred to as "hot-headedness". Not really a quality you'd put on your CV to be a primary school teacher.

Didn’t they say they would rape his wife?

Some times you can push even the mildest person too far.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Didn’t they say they would rape his wife?

Some times you can push even the mildest person too far.

They're primary school kids which means they're 11 or under, and they said they'd get "older boys to come".

I'm not saying he shouldn't have taken it seriously, I'm saying he should have reported the little bastards to the police, but in terms of whether or not it was an actual viable threat ... it's much more likely that a bunch of 10 year olds just think they're being "edgy". Acceptable no and should be taken seriously, but enough to prompt a grown man to go vigilante with threats on children?

Even if you argue he was "pushed" it's not really much of a point ... no one is saying he should be charged or go to jail, just that he shouldn't work with children, if they can "push his buttons" in a way that leads to him being openly threatening. It would apply either way.

It's not like primary school teaching is a high-paid career that will significantly ruin his home life if he can't do it. He should give up on working with kids and move on.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

They're primary school kids which means they're 11 or under, and they said they'd get "older boys to come".

I'm not saying he shouldn't have taken it seriously, I'm saying he should have reported the little bastards to the police, but in terms of whether or not it was an actual viable threat ... it's much more likely that a bunch of 10 year olds just think they're being "edgy". Acceptable no and should be taken seriously, but enough to prompt a grown man to go vigilante with threats on children?

Even if you argue he was "pushed" it's not really much of a point ... no one is saying he should be charged or go to jail, just that he shouldn't work with children, if they can "push his buttons" in a way that leads to him being openly threatening. It would apply either way.

It's not like primary school teaching is a high-paid career that will significantly ruin his home life if he can't do it. He should give up on working with kids and move on.

I’m not defending him, I was merely looking into why someone goes to far

The right decision was made but years ago him or his parents would of given the kids a clip round the ear and that would of been the end of it.