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Well done Jake , great round and some real bangers.
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WHAT THE ****


maybe not used much for karaoke's but this is clearly perfect for karaoke's


karaoke bangers for me mean = easy listening, songs you don't need to overthink too much about the lyrics, something what is fun, you can sing along to when you had couple of beers (i don't drink but i know many in my province do, especially at Carnaval, Fijnfisjenie is a traditional music event here at that time with plenty of songs like this one i submitted here)


i'm harshly underscored and i don't accept those scores
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also some of those other ''karaoke'' choices




apart from me and Jake, no one ticked the box even decently lmao
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Is jolene any slower than I wanna dance with somebody? Or is it actually faster paced!!

Should we all just be searching for songs niahm likes?
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Jesus christ Parm I gave it a 9, get over yourself
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WHAT THE ****


maybe not used much for karaoke's but this is clearly perfect for karaoke's


karaoke bangers for me mean = easy listening, songs you don't need to overthink too much about the lyrics, something what is fun, you can sing along to when you had couple of beers (i don't drink but i know many in my province do, especially at Carnaval, Fijnfisjenie is a traditional music event here at that time with plenty of songs like this one i submitted here)


i'm harshly underscored and i don't accept those scores
It was a horrible song Nicky
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Is jolene any slower than I wanna dance with somebody? Or is it actually faster paced!!

Should we all just be searching for songs niahm likes?
Also, I specifically asked Kate at the start of this game what I should be judging the songs on, one of the criteria was "personal taste" so I'm not exactly sure how you think I should be judging these songs otherwise, should I just go ahead and give everyone 10's then from now on?
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whats the theme?
Look in the round 3 thread.
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Jesus christ Parm I gave it a 9, get over yourself
Looks like a 7 to me.
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Looks like a 7 to me.
I was talking about Jolene
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Criteria met..fast placed, and a karaoke banger...max points
Vocals are on point and far superior to most of the female ones...max points

I don't like the singer..minus 3 points.


Laughable really.
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Criteria met..fast placed, and a karaoke banger...max points
Vocals are on point and far superior to most of the female ones...max points

I don't like the singer..minus 3 points.


Laughable really.
Nope I stated very clearly before the game started how I would be scoring these. Out of 5 for vocals, out of 5 for personal taste and I would deduct points from the total if it didn't meet the theme because meeting the theme is such a basic ask. I gave it 4/5 for vocals and 3/5 for personal taste and I didn't deduct any points because it met the criteria
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To add if I was just giving top marks to songs I like and nothing else I would have given both Chili Peppers songs 10's in the last round but I didn't
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Deducting 2 points for personal taste, when the games criteria is about good vocal.performances makes a mockery out he game imo...

Imo, the personal taste part should be the thing that doesnt effect the game too much, and a 2 point deduction for not liking the artist is harsh, especially when it's a game about vocal.performaces.
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12 points for me please kate.
3+4=7
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Deducting 2 points for personal taste, when the games criteria is about good vocal.performances makes a mockery out he game imo...

Imo, the personal taste part should be the thing that doesnt effect the game too much, and a 2 point deduction for not liking the artist is harsh, especially when it's a game about vocal.performaces.
Well, tough quite frankly, this is how I'm marking them, as I said I said very clearly before the game even started that's how I would be doing it in a conversation with Kate, if she, you or anyone else thought that was a bad system they should have said it then. Here's the exchange below, you infact posted just after Kate had replied to me telling her how I'd be scroing them, why not mention it then? Or is it just because you're sore about the score I gave you this round?

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Marks out of ten please, based on these things.

If it fits the theme
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Stop it Parm please. You do this every game. I'd rather have had you as a judge and Dogeatdog as a player.

I gave the following criteria to all the judges and satisfied they've followed that.

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Stop it Parm please. You do this every game. I'd rather have had you as a judge and Dogeatdog as a player.

I gave the following criteria to all the judges and satisfied they've followed that.

Outstanding vocal performance
Fits the theme
And personal taste.
You need to stop trying to tell me what to do...I'm ****ing sick to death of it.

I can moan if I bloody well like, and I can point out scoring inconsistencies if I want..

So choke on that, Kate..

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That's utterly ridiculous. All those songs except yours were bangers. Take the game seriously and you might do better. Pffft.
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