[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Noky and Jordan actually seem quite friendly now that he's spent time with her and given her a chance which he didn't do in the first couple of weeks. I mentioned yesterday that him and Henry were quite cliquey at the start and Henry confirmed that for me with his nomination for Noky last night for daring to join 'their village'

Henry never said that...his reason was very valid. Noky suddenly started spending all her time with the upstairs group to get away from Paul and then as soon as he left she went back to the garden group....

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

What I've learned from this- do not be a floater for a long period of time. Upon meeting people pick a side and pick a side quickly and stick with them. Also do not have neutral opinions and sit on the fence have a strong opinion and be prepared to back it up at all times


Well dang can people have peace while still trying to figure things out and still be liked and loved or nah ?

I think you can be a permanent floater as long as you are open, honest, true to yourself and stand by your principles, and as long as you don’t speak behind people’s backs or express conflicting views depending on who you are talking to. You need to show you can be trusted, and not playing one group off against another.

Matty has shown you can be a floater, getting along with people on both sides by being just like this. Despite being close to her, he was open and honest with Trish in telling her that he did not share her view of Dylan when she initially expressed negative views about him. In being honest and upfront, he shows he’s trustworthy.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Henry never said that...his reason was very valid. Noky suddenly started spending all her time with the upstairs group to get away from Paul and then as soon as he left she went back to the garden group....

Which made him feel they were being used.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I think she was more with one group (Olivia/Tom) and neglected her relationships with the other group (Jordan and yinran), then she mistakenly nominated Olivia pissing the one group off and because she failed to make connections she kinda lost support from both groups

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Henry never said that...his reason was very valid. Noky suddenly started spending all her time with the upstairs group to get away from Paul and then as soon as he left she went back to the garden group....

She still spends more time with the upstairs lot it seems to me but the groups have become more fluid now that Paul's gone. Henry spoke about their group as if it was a closed shop

[GoldHeart]

Matty drifts from group to group and never gets given a hard deal , so why does Noky get grief over it . Poor girl can't win .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

I think she was more with one group (Olivia/Tom) and neglected her relationships with the other group (Jordan and yinran), then she mistakenly nominated Olivia pissing the one group off and because she failed to make connections she kinda lost support from both groups

Trish nominated Olivia which was cold of her given Noky shared a bed with her

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Matty drifts from group to group and never gets given a hard deal , so why does Noky get grief over it . Poor girl can't win .

Nope she can’t

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Matty drifts from group to group and never gets given a hard deal , so why does Noky get grief over it . Poor girl can't win .

I think his personality is easier to get on with. Up until last week most people on here saw Noky as hard to read. She’s nice but she’s hard to read so it’s a reason people won’t fully trust her and nominate her.

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by MTVN

She still spends more time with the upstairs lot it seems to me but the groups have become more fluid now that Paul's gone. Henry spoke about their group as if it was a closed shop

This. You see her with different people almost every night, she doesn’t just stick with one side for “safety” or whatever, she’s just trying to be be friendly to everyone.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Matty has done more or less the same as Noky and he doesn't get any back lash in the house. If Zak had stayed in the house things would have been very different for Noky I think, he was her person in there

I think with Noky….more so with the Garden gang. I think they see her as a bit up herself and patronising…whereas Matty is a natural drifter..

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Matty has done more or less the same as Noky and he doesn't get any back lash in the house. If Zak had stayed in the house things would have been very different for Noky I think, he was her person in there

The public fumbled that eviction so hard, the dynamics of the house could have been so much more interesting with Zak still in the mix, it would have been very interesting to see where Noky and Zak would fall in the divide… would they join a group or form their own little group? Instead we got that bloody dull “love triangle” crap for weeks on end

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

The public fumbled that eviction so hard, the dynamics of the house could have been so much more interesting with Zak still in the mix, it would have been very interesting to see where Noky and Zak would fall in the divide… would they join a group or form their own little group? Instead we got that bloody dull “love triangle” crap for weeks on end

Yeah I wish Zak was still there ,the dynamics would have been so interesting to watch .

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Trish nominated Olivia which was cold of her given Noky shared a bed with her

That's what I mean she ended up pissing the side she sorta got on better with thanks to Trish. She shouldn't have listened to Trish at all or pick someone else for help

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Matty has done more or less the same as Noky and he doesn't get any back lash in the house. If Zak had stayed in the house things would have been very different for Noky I think, he was her person in there

All true! Such a shame he went early. They would have been iconic together

[Northern Monkey]

Cos she doesn’t engage in the full on bitching sessions, she remains distant and refrains from offering an opinion. Hence, imo, people don’t know if they can 100% trust her. They will offer a bitchy contribution, which comes with a certain risk of being exposed. But Noky won’t offer that back. She plays it safe.