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20-03-2024, 09:05 AM | #1 | |||
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Jessica Meuse was robbed.
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I look at the current Music charts, and the talent pool I believe is really low in the Music scene at the moment.
I'm not saying that all of the songs within recent years are bad (because that would be stupid,) but the Music Industry is still relying on the talent of singers from a decade or two ago to deliver good vocals. I mean the current number one in the UK Charts is Beyonce, don't get me wrong she has a great voice, but she's been around since the 90's, It's not exactly a new vocal powerhouse is it? And I know that previous efforts such as The X Factor and American Idol only churned out the odd successful act, I do believe that to be the case only because the Music industry were being snotty, and didn't want to give their best song material to what they viewed as "Reality TV riff raff," even though a lot of these contestants were actually talented, and could've brought something very much needed to the Music Industry (i.e good singing.) As I've said on another thread, I've been watching a bunch of different American Idol Seasons recently, and yeah obviously there are some acts that aren't very good imo, but there were definitely some that could sing some of the current big singers off the park, yet unfortunately most of them that I've seen (bar Adam Lambert,) never were really given a proper chance by the Music Industry. Am I the only one that thinks that a new singing show needs to come out, to actually find good singing talent for the charts? And just to add, even if the winner isn't easily marketable, if they're talented then the Industry should at least try to push them imo.
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20-03-2024, 12:42 PM | #2 | |||
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regarding germany DSDS has delivered some decent successes tbh Alexander Klaws (series 1 winner) as of today still relevant, although now more a big name musical theatre star, was the lead star as Jesus last year in their first live easter show of The Passion Ramon Roselly, landslided to victory in 2020 no audiences due to covid year, with 86% of the vote, afterwards his debut album because an album no.1 chart hit Prince Damien, following his victory he became more and more popular, also having been crowned King of the Jungle on Ich Bin Ein Star (i'm a celeb) as well as being very popular musician
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21-03-2024, 02:00 AM | #3 | |||
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Fair play to those few that did do it (in particular Maneskin and Duncan Laurence I do remember being really good in their respective years,) so I'm not too surprised that they've managed to defy the odds of most Eurovision acts these days.
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21-03-2024, 07:46 AM | #4 | |||
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like Serbia, whom more care about domestic chart successes, their artists like Konstrakta, Zeljko Joksimovic, the former Hurricane OG's all have pretty decent solo careers now either although Sanja was already famous before that group, Ksenija well she already was famous as backing vocalist for her father but now she has her own record label and most balkan countries share each other's artists in record labels, chart successes, also helps them big time that they have many good music festivals, Montenegro will get its own music festival as of next year (maybe it will also be used for eurovision, but they haven't confirmed that yet) good for new montenegrin musical talent here in my nation Netherlands, most only care about domestic successes either who release in dutch language, newer generations like Meau, Flemming, Goldband, Maan, Froukje and we have successful festivals like Pinkpop, and also the revival of our Regio Songfestival which also helps in newer talent gain more live performing experience, performing in own dialects/accents/languages unlike Sweden where they've gone way too plastic these days at SVT also choosing foreigners over own swedish music talent for eurovision now this year
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21-03-2024, 07:55 AM | #5 | |||
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i myself do not care about the charts
i just listen to whatever i like, and my taste for music is really very diverse, i like almost everything, i also pretend i make my own ''music festivals'' with imagination results based on what i think as fan favourites or jurybait music
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21-03-2024, 09:27 AM | #6 | |||
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And with your other points, I get where you're coming from, especially with just liking who you like, because I am similar in that sense, including liking some artists that aren't great vocalists. I just personally would like the profession of "singer" to actually mean something again, rather than someone just autotuning their voice to sound really mechanical, because they don't really have the talent that they claim to have.
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21-03-2024, 09:48 AM | #7 | |||
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We don’t need singing shows, there’s been 1 singular successful person from the voice and someone from the X factor hasn’t been successful for well over a decade, they were entertainment shows, not genuine talent searches
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21-03-2024, 09:55 AM | #8 | |||
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"singing shows" seem to be amazed that normal people can sing
every town in the UK has many people who can sing as well as ANY popular star save say a unique talent like Karen Carpenter I mean Paul McCartney can't sing - his skills lay elsewhere the X factor had the right idea but in the end was a show about "finding someone with the x factor" but was never actually about finding someone the value was in the search all of this type of show has had its day |
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22-03-2024, 05:27 AM | #9 | |||
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My point is that I would like to see a new Show of that type come out, that genuinely was looking for talent to succeed in the charts.
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22-03-2024, 05:50 AM | #10 | |||
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22-03-2024, 05:52 AM | #11 | |||
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Probably the only shows I was truly invested in were the two Fame Academy series and that series where INXS were trying to find a new lead singer !!!
https://youtu.be/TSQj8S6AEC8?si=xQETcx5B0LRgS0Zl https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...BD4JCfb7S-Z3-_ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Last edited by Zizu; 22-03-2024 at 05:58 AM. |
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22-03-2024, 07:49 AM | #12 | |||
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22-03-2024, 08:55 AM | #13 | |||
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22-03-2024, 10:30 AM | #14 | |||
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22-03-2024, 11:00 AM | #15 | |||
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As for contestants, i think how the charts changed over the last 8/9 years really affected their success. Winnings acts that would have come out and had multiple number one singles and albums.. just weren’t, in the last few years of the x factor anyway.. i honestly don’t know anyone from The Voice who’s had continued success bar Becky Hill As for singers voices, i really don’t understand it. There are great singers out there, independant artists who don’t get mainstream attention but there’s definitely no Mariah Careys or Whitney Houstons in the music scene these days which does suck. Every guy singer thay comes out be sounding like Ed Sheeran and every girl singer sounds like Dua Lipa.. variety ain’t there |
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22-03-2024, 11:01 PM | #16 | |||
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INXS would be on something if they had me as their lead singer, it would be good singing some of their songs though.
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22-03-2024, 11:07 PM | #17 | |||
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And I agree that there are still great singers out there, but like you've said, unfortunately the Media does ignore them because they either don't have the right look, or they have come from a Talent Show, which to me definitely has impacted the Music scene in a negative way, as we're losing out on a lot of good singers due to the attitude of the money people in the Music Industry. And I agree with you about a lot of the younger men and women trying to sound like Ed or Dua Lipa, it's just not what I personally want to keep listening to.
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22-03-2024, 11:12 PM | #18 | |||
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Singing competition shows don't really create "stars" these days because the audience figures just aren't there anymore. Back in the days of the peak of The X Factor and Idol, contestants could become household names just from being on the show before they had even released any music of their own and had already started to build a fanbase. That meant that acts like One Direction, Kelly Clarkson, Leona Lewis, Olly Murs, James Arthur, Carrie Underwood, Adam Lambert etc already had the platform for success before they really started their careers, and already had the clout to have record labels give them major funding and backing. These shows just don't have that kind of pull anymore, and basically exist just for the channels to make money from advertising from the people still watching. Most of the public couldn't name a single person that has participated or even won The Voice at all. Going on these shows still might be a great way to network in the industry, but you have a better chance of becoming a genuine star from uploading your music on TikTok these days.
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22-03-2024, 11:19 PM | #19 | |||
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Interestingly though, for all the success they have had I'm not sure that most people are even aware those artists were ever on The Voice. |
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23-03-2024, 02:03 AM | #20 | |||
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Something that unfortunately rarely happens.
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23-03-2024, 02:08 AM | #21 | |||
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I'm not familiar with Morgan Wallen, but fair play to him, if he is successful. I think I'm just thinking of the missed opportunities that the Singing Shows have had over the years, especially the top 5 on Season 13 of American Idol, they all vocally sing Dua Lipa, Billie Eilish, Olivia Rodrigo, and even Ed Sheeran under the table, it's not even close imo.
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23-03-2024, 03:59 AM | #22 | |||
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The music industry is no longer the same. Singing shows are a cheap method of exploitive companies to get new acts. The way forward is independent artists in charge of their own destiny
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23-03-2024, 05:00 AM | #23 | |||
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I do wish that the Singing Shows were operated differently to that though.
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23-03-2024, 07:43 AM | #24 | |||
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who cares about those lazy spoiled rich kid independent artists
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24-03-2024, 12:48 AM | #25 | |||
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That's not accurate at all Most spoiled rich kids that make it into the music industry are signed to major labels and got their deals through their family connections. Independent artists are much more commonly from poorer backgrounds and aren't born with a foot in the door to the business. The problem is though, the industry is now in a situation where music doesn't sell anymore and streaming services pay so little that it makes it very difficult to be an independent artist and make a living and be able to compete commercially with major label acts, even though there are more opportunities and avenues for independent artists to succeed than ever before.
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