[GoldHeart]

Remember when BP & Sarah had their secret mission, and Martha put on the waterworks... over being labelled a "gossip". Didn't she profess how she would never blurt out any secrets if she's told something in confidence, well that sentiment has aged like milk now ... if she's gone back to Lily to tell her what Hanah said re: the "get Lily out" chant. Why did she throw Hanah under the bus .

Martha is showing a vindictive bitchy streak with a big mouth now, and she is causing drama and trouble for the sake of it. I'm here for this backfiring on her ... and getting a few nominations thrown her way.

she was putting on a nice act and was holding back, now i think we're seeing the real Martha. She is devious and sneaky, and it is not a good look.

And then trying to add fuel to the fire by referring to Segun as Hanah's
"wing man" , does Martha think she's funny?.... with that dig .

[Antinous]

She wasn't trying to be funny and it wasn't a dig. We need to see the whole thing in tonight's episode before jumping to conclusions. Hanah is vile person. It's bad enough we have to listen to that grating mle accent without having to witness her attack people in that house. First Thomas then Lily and now Martha.

[GoldHeart]

That youtuber Yazzfetto has uploaded the audio and i'm listening to it, Smug turd Nathan is suddenly Martha best pal and both are tag teaming/ ganging up on Hanah...despite the fact Nathat can't stand Martha and bitches about her, he's so fake . Nathan is a drip & Martha is a useless wet wipe.

Amazing how it takes Emma the voice of reason to calm down the crazy situation, Emma has such respect and huge influence over the house. Then of course suddenly bellend Nathan is magically like "ohhhh i understand now", he's so full of BS .

Sure Hanah got loud and agitated, she was defending herself ... but Martha kept pushing her like a dog with a bone who wont let it drop , suddenly it all becomes clear When Emma basically bluntly tells Martha she was in the wrong. suddenly Nathan & Martha realise the full story now . Emma has gone up in my estimations though ... i will say that.

[Mrluvaluva]

Martha. Loose lips sink ships.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Martha. Loose lips sink ships.

Exactly

Both Martha & Nathan were kicking the hornets nest, they kept provoking Hanah into kicking off... and then when she actually kicks off , it's all "why do you have an attitude problem" . Maybe Hanah could have been more composed, but i would have been annoyed aswell... if someone was trying to point the finger at me.

Martha was quite rude aswell with her remark of "well why did you say it then", whilst Nathan kept jumping in like a weasel . Funny how they both took back what they said... when Emma walked in and instantly put an end to the nonsense .

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Exactly

Both Martha & Nathan were kicking the hornets nest, they kept provoking Hanah into kicking off... and then when she actually kicks off , it's all "why do you have an attitude problem" . Maybe Hanah could have been more composed, but i would have been annoyed aswell... if someone was trying to point the finger at me.

Martha was quite rude aswell with her remark of "well why did you say it then", whilst Nathan kept jumping in like a weasel . Funny how they both took back what they said... when Emma walked in and instantly put an end to the nonsense .

Ok. I'm gonna be blunt.

It's all contrived. From my perspective.

I think Martha is now coming across as desperate. She's not making any alliances. Got a bit jealous honestly regarding the whole BP/Sarah secret mission. Gossiping etc. She's making herself look bad. I think she's feeling lost in the whole BB scenario. She'll just join in with whatever. For no reason specifically. She just feels the need for some unknown reason. It's not endearing.

She's gone next week.

Nathan is just in a false sense of security. He's going to have a huge thing coming at him at some point. Like an avalanche because, dare I say it, he's quite narcissistic.

I'm not even sure BP is invested in their relationship as much as she protests. And maybe that's coming across to viewers?

Damn!

[Ammi]

…I agree with Mrluvaluva, I think that Martha is feeling and has been feeling lost in the whole situation and maybe the whole house experience from more or less the start…or maybe since Khaled chose her to face eviction in his reasoning…that possibly knocked her off kilter and I don’t thing she’s been able to find that steady footing again…and I think that it’s Martha’s time to go this week…atm, this is kind of Martha struggling a bit between divides…

[Beso]

Emma's going to win.

[arista]

[I think Martha is now coming across as desperate. She's not making any alliances.]


Yes Mr. L


Vote her out this week

[Benjamin]

Martha is setting herself up to be evicted soon.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Beso

Emma's going to win.

I hope, she's my choice.

[ebandit]

martha loose lips created those hips.............................alas that's pretty much all i can ever remember of her

Mark L

[jones89]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Remember when BP & Sarah had their secret mission, and Martha put on the waterworks... over being labelled a "gossip". Didn't she profess how she would never blurt out any secrets if she's told something in confidence, well that sentiment has aged like milk now ... if she's gone back to Lily to tell her what Hanah said re: the "get Lily out" chant. Why did she throw Hanah under the bus .

Martha is showing a vindictive bitchy streak with a big mouth now, and she is causing drama and trouble for the sake of it. I'm here for this backfiring on her ... and getting a few nominations thrown her way.

she was putting on a nice act and was holding back, now i think we're seeing the real Martha. She is devious and sneaky, and it is not a good look.

And then trying to add fuel to the fire by referring to Segun as Hanah's
"wing man" , does Martha think she's funny?.... with that dig .

As soon as BP and Sarah told her that, she was straight out in the bedroom telling Lily and Ali.. didn’t even take her 5 minutes.. so then to hear her say she would never gossip was a moment

[DaturaAT]

i dont think Martha has been sh*tstirring intentionally, she likes to talk and gossip, but to me it doesn't seem like she wants to cause harm. it was not very smart and empathetic of her to keep asking Hanah but i dont think she did it with malice. her constant apologies afterwards to Hanah were uncomfortable, but even there i don't really think it's strategy, i think she just really cannot handle someone being angry with her, especially if she indeed did something wrong

and i honestly think Hanah has shown a pretty vile side (again), the chants about "ali's plan did not succeed" gave really mean girl / bully energy, even if the felt pushed i dont think it was necessary to go off as much as she did (once again, i mean when bb told her, khaled & segun off about the ali comments she was totally out of line with her reply). the way she said "if i say what i have to say it worsens the situation" and then basically said everything anyway and got on a full rant towards martha was not as empathetic as she claims to be.

[Beso]

Martha is one of those people who wants to be their kids cool friend, rather than their parent.

I can imagine her house is an open door for her kids friends well because she wants to come across as cool to them as well.

[vesavius]

Martha's behaviour is clearly rooted in her own insecurities and the possibility that she has felt invisible and not accepted her entire life.

She is a 26 year old woman who gains her main identity from being a hardcore Taylor Swift stan (not fan, stan). I mean, I like music I follow groups, no judgement on that in itself, but it's clear that she has invested a large part of her self identity into this. People don't usually do that if they feel accepted and seen in real life.

BUT, yes, the behaviour that we have seen from her has to be taken on it's own merits ultimately and she has behaved terribly. She has attempted to buy her way into the Ali Goon Squad, who didn't want to have much to do with her before this really, by 'exposing' Hanah and then feeding Lily... Will it work? Probably, because Ali is definitely empire building in there right now in an effort to beat Hanah+. In the end, Martha is a nom on her side now after all.

The end result is that Martha is acting in a pretty awful way. She is acting like the girl that snides against you in public to whoever will listen (often behind your back) and then apologises to you for that in private. She is unreliable and untrustworthy and hides that behind a constructed persona of 'jolly big girl'.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Martha's behaviour is clearly rooted in her own insecurities and the possibility that she has felt invisible and not accepted her entire life.

She is a 26 year old woman who gains her main identity from being a hardcore Taylor Swift stan (not fan, stan). I mean, I like music I follow groups, no judgement on that in itself, but it's clear that she has invested a large part of her self identity into this. People don't usually do that if they feel accepted and seen in real life.

BUT, yes, the behaviour that we have seen from her has to be taken on it's own merits ultimately and she has behaved terribly. She has attempted to buy her way into the Ali Goon Squad, who didn't want to have much to do with her before this really, by 'exposing' Hanah and then feeding Lily... Will it work? Probably, because Ali is definitely empire building in there right now in an effort to beat Hanah+. In the end, Martha is a nom on her side now after all.

The end result is that Martha is acting in a pretty awful way. She is acting like the girl that snides against you in public to whoever will listen (often behind your back) and then apologises to you for that in private. She is unreliable and untrustworthy and hides that behind a constructed persona of 'jolly big girl'.

…yeah, I agree…I don’t know if she would struggle with acceptance in any group but she does seem to struggle in this group to feel her ‘visibility’…but it’s felt as though when she has felt it, it’s been in some type of gossip/negative situation….and I don’t know if that’s just because she might feel overwhelmed in the house with big characters…the house dynamics must be so strange because even in the celebrity series…with what what we’ve seen to be big characters…?…they can often get lost in the house situation, can’t they …I keep going back to when Martha was chosen to face the vote earlier on by Khaled and how much that impacted her…even when Khaled had reasoned it…the impact of ‘rejection’ and maybe feeling a ‘least popular’ with someone, felt quite huge……hmmmm…I think that sometimes, certain feelings of hurt and low self esteem/insecurities etc can be projected into others as well by creating upset…

…group dynamics are strange as well because Lily behaves as annoyingly as heck at times and she gets attention and attention…Martha …(…for the most part…)…is possibly a ‘team player’ and doesn’t feel the attention …so being that person that creates something might be something she gravitates toward…/…negative attention is better than no attention…/…playground law……

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Martha's behaviour is clearly rooted in her own insecurities and the possibility that she has felt invisible and not accepted her entire life.

She is a 26 year old woman who gains her main identity from being a hardcore Taylor Swift stan (not fan, stan). I mean, I like music I follow groups, no judgement on that in itself, but it's clear that she has invested a large part of her self identity into this. People don't usually do that if they feel accepted and seen in real life.

BUT, yes, the behaviour that we have seen from her has to be taken on it's own merits ultimately and she has behaved terribly. She has attempted to buy her way into the Ali Goon Squad, who didn't want to have much to do with her before this really, by 'exposing' Hanah and then feeding Lily... Will it work? Probably, because Ali is definitely empire building in there right now in an effort to beat Hanah+. In the end, Martha is a nom on her side now after all.

The end result is that Martha is acting in a pretty awful way. She is acting like the girl that snides against you in public to whoever will listen (often behind your back) and then apologises to you for that in private. She is unreliable and untrustworthy and hides that behind a constructed persona of 'jolly big girl'.

Martha definitely is desperate to be liked by the Ali squad, I didn't like the way she kept bringing up the chanting. Lily was annoyed AF aswell going on about it .. making the eviction all about her selfish self" oh I heard my name " ...she must have said that a 100 times, and Martha continued it on like a repetitive jumpy parrot .

It was obvious Hanah was staying quiet ,as to spare feelings. And Martha tried to twist it to make out Hanah is being nasty . Ali is now calling Hanah a bully.... without even knowing the full story.

Watching it back now ,I admit I wish Hanah stayed calm & composed ..but I think she was that frustrated with the false terrible narrative being played out....that it hurts her . Hanah has a hard exterior..but she still has feelings. And it was 2 against 1 when Nathan got his turkey chops involved...it had nothing to do with him. Martha showed a bitchy & cowardly side .