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14-09-2008, 03:10 AM | #1 | |||
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Like a fine whiskey
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Are we, as a nation, still as united as we once were?
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14-09-2008, 03:13 AM | #2 | |||
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Were we ever?
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14-09-2008, 03:15 AM | #3 | |||
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not now
ireland wales and scotland are jealous of england they seem to be bitter that we achieve more then them in basicaly everything |
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14-09-2008, 03:45 AM | #4 | |||
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Yep, I dont see England as a country, I see it as a Kingdom of the UK
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14-09-2008, 09:38 AM | #5 | ||
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Imo, it's a bitter jealousy. Having said that, not many countries in the UK like each other.. but still I think overall as the UK, we're quite united even if we hate each other at times? |
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14-09-2008, 10:09 AM | #6 | ||
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No...we were about 200 years ago perhaps..now its all a mess
Scotland inparticular seem to want to distance themselves from us all. Bring back the Commonwealth and slave trade I say! |
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14-09-2008, 11:47 AM | #7 | |||
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Of course the UK isn't united. Scotland - Most of the country wants to be 100% independent. Northern Ireland - More 50/50. A lot of people think it would be better to be part of Ireland as the government's run much smoother and everyone has more money generally. 40 years of full scale rioting over UK/Ireland says it all. Wales - Don't know much about the situation, but reading this thread makes it look pretty much the same as Scotland & NI. |
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14-09-2008, 11:51 AM | #8 | ||
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altough ROI isnt part of the UK anymore...everyone here hates England yet loves Wales & Scotland.its realy stupid but true.i can imagine its the same in Wales & Scotland.
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14-09-2008, 05:12 PM | #9 | |||
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No, it isn't really. I'm proud to be British though, I don't like to say I'm 'English'. I support all 4 home nations with the football/rugby, and Team GB with the Olympics...
But the general consensus is the age-old "everyone hates the English" thing. |
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14-09-2008, 05:31 PM | #10 | ||
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Personally, I dislike England. I don't dislike the people in it and I wouldn't say their stuck-up or whatever, I just generally dislike England.
I want Wales to have their own independance, we're the same as N.I & Scotland. I just sometimes wish Wales would sort of split from England and float over and join to Ireland. |
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14-09-2008, 05:40 PM | #11 | |||
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I don't really think so. It's always been England vs. Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
And I completly agree with Ross. |
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14-09-2008, 05:46 PM | #12 | |||
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15-09-2008, 08:00 AM | #13 | |||
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Constitutionaly we are united, and stronger for it.
Were the seperatists to have their way, we would far be poorer. As for independent in Europe, well, if Scotland were to split from the UK, it would mean leaving Europe as it is the UK which has membership and applying seperately to join, and there are other states waiting to Join. Scotland would be left out in the cold. Wales can not go UDI, because it was conquered, unlike Scotland which joined the union in 1707 |
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15-09-2008, 02:18 PM | #14 | ||
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As for the EU, the sooner we're out of that, the better. |
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16-09-2008, 02:46 PM | #15 | |||
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Its natural group behaviour to dislike a group that has a seemingly higher status than another. If you're in a marginalised group you hate the "in" group! With a recession coming up and more ethnic groups around, theres going to be a battle for resources and like it or not groups will come into conflict. It would be nice for people not to see each other in terms of ethnicity, but thats the reality. So we are tenuously united when the going good...
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16-09-2008, 02:54 PM | #16 | |||
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...for the united Kingdom to be united there needs to be more of an open debate into the reasons why people feel marginalised and some kind of dialogue between groups so that we understand each other better and the reasons why we behave in prejudiced ways! School would be a good place to discuss these things...but then the kids go back to the parents who have different ideals! Hell I dont know but education is needed, amongst other things
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19-09-2008, 05:07 PM | #17 | ||
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United Kingdom hasn't been united for a long long time.
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