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The X Factor 2004-'08 [S1-5] Discussion of previous series (2004-2008) and the contestants. Winners were Steve Brookstein, Shayne Ward, Leona Lewis, Leon Jackson and Alexandra Burke. |
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19-12-2008, 10:50 PM | #26 | |||
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2 - Simon's profits and Simon's ego are two separate things. 3 - I'll take your word for it. It's certainly highly likely. There are a lot of stupid people in the world, and most of them have a high speed connection. 4 - Yes, I agree, fans of XF will buy the single to spite the XF haters. Whether they are haters/fans of XF or of Alexandra makes no difference to the point you make. 5 - I refer you to point 3 with the idiots. There are a lot of people who jump on the nearest bandwagon. There are also a lot of people who claim to know things which they clearly know ****-all about. |
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19-12-2008, 10:53 PM | #27 | ||
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I'm supporting the Jeff Buckley version because I think it's superior. Although I've grown to like the first minute or so of Alex's version (Where she's just singing with a guitar and not a flippin' gospel choir and orchestra then it gets stupid).
Hallejulah is a very understated song and it doesn't work well when it's overproduced like the X Factor version. X Factor songs in general are DIRE as they're just a quick and easy recording of a song that's bound to get to number 1, you can almost hear the sound of cash registers in the ice cold arrangements in them. They're swiftly forgotten and nobody really likes them much after the initial week (How many times have you played Leona's or Leon's XF singles recently?). All the X Factor singles have the same formula, listen to them one after the other and you'll pattern emerging. I'm angry that the XF has used such a mechnical way to murder a brilliant song. I just wish they didn't bring in an orchestra or choir, Alex's Hallejulah might have been decent then. |
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19-12-2008, 10:59 PM | #28 | |||
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I think it's a damn shame for Alexandra.
All this furore (some of it justified) and none of it was her decision. Someone else took the decision to have her record that song. Someone else took the deicsion to have that arrangement. And, someone else took the decision to have it released in time for Christmas. All this stuff aside, Alexandra is a bloody good singer in my view, and hopefully she'll be given decent material to work with and have a good career after this. The XF winner single is always diabolical though, in my view. |
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19-12-2008, 11:20 PM | #29 | ||
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My thoughts exactly, I'm not against Alex just the XF single.
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19-12-2008, 11:32 PM | #30 | |||
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I think what isn't very clever is people thinking that buying a single record will make any realistic difference to its chart position. One sale is a drop in the ocean when it takes 100s of thousands of sales to make number one.
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20-12-2008, 10:39 AM | #31 | ||
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I agree with the last few posts about the winners single. And if they're going to use the same formula then they might as well just write a new song, I mean Peter Kay did it alright and got the sound of the winning single spot on.
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20-12-2008, 06:36 PM | #32 | ||
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why do people care so much about anything as stupid as what this thread is about
people buy whatever music they like and as i have said before the singles chart is in essence democratic and people buy what they like and the song with the most sales win but why should it bother anyone if their favorite song doesn't make it to no.1 , you know you like it who cares about what a "No.1" sticker says . . . . . |
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22-12-2008, 11:04 AM | #33 | ||
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The 'buy Buckley's version' was no doubt a protest rather than a serious threat to ANY X Factor winner's song, that people see as a nailed-on Xmas number one. In fact Buckley's version sold around 80,000, which is 20,000 + less than Leona's Run when that first got to number one.
I don't see a way past the XF winner's song, unless something incredible occurs (like Cowell scrapping the show!). |
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22-12-2008, 11:07 AM | #34 | |||
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Even if they don't scrap the show, all he has to do is release the winner's single in a diff week. It's guaranteed the top spot anyway, no matter what time of year it gets released.
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22-12-2008, 11:09 AM | #35 | |||
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Jeff's version will drop down pretty fast I think. Leona seems to be gaining more momentum each week, and she wasn't far behind him anyway. The whole XF effect would have worn off people by now. Alex still has to drop down from 500,000 into the 100,000s for someone else to overtake her.
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22-12-2008, 11:10 AM | #36 | |||
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22-12-2008, 11:12 AM | #37 | |||
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I like Jeffs better and am fed up I cant guess Xmas number 1 any more as it will be the X factor song everytime even if they released humpty dumpty!
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22-12-2008, 12:46 PM | #38 | ||
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22-12-2008, 12:51 PM | #39 | |||
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Its not out of spite...
I love Simon Cowel and all that he does and Alexandra is a huge talent.. I just know that Simon is cashing in with the song.. I just want to see what Alex does next, a song that is hers and not Simon Cowels. ps... Jeff Buckley deserves a No.1 more than a woman who has been in the offical music business for 9 days. |
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22-12-2008, 12:52 PM | #40 | |||
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