[mangasatsuma]

Serious muscle relaxants, hence the 'wide open' comment.

[LisaHawk]

Yes, because MUSCLE relaxants affect the brain.

[kisywisy]

there's no way they spiked him. he was just drunk!!

[mangasatsuma]

A long shot.....

I hope the hangover teaches him a lesson.

[vesavius]

Originally posted by mangasatsuma
A long shot.....

I hope the hangover teaches him a lesson.

[Stu]

Originally posted by LisaHawk
Yes, because MUSCLE relaxants affect the brain.

Well ... yes. Everything affects the brain. The muscles and their various sensaitons are controlled and communicated via the brain. I think what you mean is they would not affect you on a cognitive, 'thought' level.

However the topic is clearly a [bad] joke. Big Brother drugging up the housemates? Thats something straight from the daily star.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by LisaHawk
Yes, because MUSCLE relaxants affect the brain.

Actually they do and some affect it quite severely. Even though they are called "muscle" relaxants, they actually work through the neurological system which obviously includes the brain. Strong ones can make a person dizzy, have halucinations and even cause unconsciousness.

True story: I once injured my back and had to be put on muscle relaxants for two weeks. When I took the first dose, I thought I had slept all day. (I only took half the dose after that because it was clearly too strong). Anyway, my friends later told me that they had called my house to check on me and I was telling them that cats were walking on the ceiling etc. I don't even have a cat much less a gravity defying ceiling cat! lol The muscle relaxant had made me halucinate!

But no... I think Freddie was just drunk.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

You can buy a product that is commonly known as 'poppers' which is a muscle relaxant but if inhaled gives you a strong head rush, dizzyness, a really warm feeling, nausea, and a a list of small effects that make you wonder why you whiffed it.

Commonly found in head shops (rizla/bongs etc) or sex shops. Normally about £5, but you can often find 3 for £10.

Now I've made myself look bad I shall be quiet

[fallentree]

imagine if charlie wanked into freddies drink and spiked it

[HELLIWONTGO]

Well ... yes. Everything affects the brain. The muscles and their various sensaitons are controlled and communicated via the brain. I think what you mean is they would not affect you on a cognitive, 'thought' level.



I say, old chap not a Dr are you, only I've been having a spot of trouble with the old back, grateful for any help old sport!

[Stu]

Originally posted by Appearance_Of_A_Junky
You can buy a product that is commonly known as 'poppers' which is a muscle relaxant but if inhaled gives you a strong head rush, dizzyness, a really warm feeling, nausea, and a a list of small effects that make you wonder why you whiffed it.

Commonly found in head shops (rizla/bongs etc) or sex shops. Normally about £5, but you can often find 3 for £10.

Now I've made myself look bad I shall be quiet

And you left out it's most important and notorious feature of all. Poppers loosen your sphincter muscles, hence their popularity with the gay community.

Horrible stuff, though. Not really a drug on it's own as it only lasts for about five minuets but if your already drunk, it can send you that bit further. They got Spice & stuff in those shops these days. Theirs no excuse for buying useless little bottles of inhalants.

[LisaHawk]

Originally posted by Cybele

Actually they do and some affect it quite severely. Even though they are called "muscle" relaxants, they actually work through the neurological system which obviously includes the brain. Strong ones can make a person dizzy, have halucinations and even cause unconsciousness.

True story: I once injured my back and had to be put on muscle relaxants for two weeks. When I took the first dose, I thought I had slept all day. (I only took half the dose after that because it was clearly too strong). Anyway, my friends later told me that they had called my house to check on me and I was telling them that cats were walking on the ceiling etc. I don't even have a cat much less a gravity defying ceiling cat! lol The muscle relaxant had made me halucinate!

But no... I think Freddie was just drunk.

Not to turn this into a science forum, but the doctor must have been slipping you something else. Muscle relaxants do affect the brain of course but all I was trying to say was they don't affect it in the way the OP was making out, they generally only cause mild drowsiness. i'd go to the Dr if I was you, they won't be causing hallucinations unless they weren't MR's you were on.

[LisaHawk]

DP

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Originally posted by Stu

And you left out it's most important and notorious feature of all. Poppers loosen your sphincter muscles, hence their popularity with the gay community.

Horrible stuff, though. Not really a drug on it's own as it only lasts for about five minuets but if your already drunk, it can send you that bit further.

Ahh, mixing it with booze (or any drug) is crazy. I didn't mention is actual use as I'm sure most buy it for the wrong reasons.

Seriously people, its not good, don't try it, you'll just feel sick and wonder why the hell you did it.

[Stu]

Yeah Cybele's case does sound a bit extreme. Muscle relaxants cant possibly cause disassociation or a near psychedelic encounter. Unless of course you bought the muscle relaxants from a guy named Zed who traded you them for a guitar with four strings.

And yes, Stu is fully aware this has become an anatomical thread. And Stu thinks this is a good thing, given said threads general lack of direction.

[fallentree]

i wish someone would piss in kris's drink and spike it

[mangasatsuma]

I gave my last poppers to a tramp in 1990. He looked surprised but grateful.

[Stu]

Originally posted by mangasatsuma
I gave my last poppers to a tramp in 1990. He looked surprised but grateful.

Madchester. The second summer of love. The acid raves. My god, I wish I was 18 then instead of now. What a boring, formulised, plastic world we live in. X-Factor! Yipee! Rock on! We are special!

[Sorry, those misantrophic mini-rants keep leaking out].

[Rollerrd]

Originally posted by Stu

Well ... yes. Everything affects the brain. The muscles and their various sensaitons are controlled and communicated via the brain. I think what you mean is they would not affect you on a cognitive, 'thought' level.

However the topic is clearly a [bad] joke. Big Brother drugging up the housemates? Thats something straight from the daily star.

I'll have you know The Daily Star is an incredibly respectable paper, which provides factual articles gained from trustable sources.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by LisaHawk

Not to turn this into a science forum, but the doctor must have been slipping you something else. Muscle relaxants do affect the brain of course but all I was trying to say was they don't affect it in the way the OP was making out, they generally only cause mild drowsiness. i'd go to the Dr if I was you, they won't be causing hallucinations unless they weren't MR's you were on.

Actually, I have been working in the medical field for 15 years. I think I know what I am talking about with regards to what a muscle relaxant does. I just gave my own experience as an example. And I never claimed that a muscle relaxant was a halucinagen. What happened was that it made me so extremely drowsy that I was basically dreaming while talking. Not the same thing internally, but certainly the same thing to anyone who was watching me. It was just that the dosage they prescribed was way too high.

And to the person who said that poppers is a muscle relaxant... it isn't. It is a vasodialator (expands the blood vessels). The fact that it works to relax certain muscles is a result of that.