[arista]

Trouble maker
there will be some Male Writer teams that do not want
a female on the table.



Sign Of The Times.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...share_btn_link

[Niamh.]

good for her

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

good for her

But what about the Solid Men Only Comedy Teams
that do not need a additional Women Writer
adding pink dresses?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

But what about the Solid Men Only Comedy Teams
that do not need a additional Women Writer
adding pinlk dresses?

Adding pink dresses? I don't understand what you mean here in regards to writing comedy? Or was this your attempt at some sort of sexist humour? If so I wouldn't be applying yourself to be one of the writing teams

[Redway]

Originally Posted by arista

But what about the Solid Men Only Comedy Teams
that do not need a additional Women Writer
adding pink dresses?

Pink used to be a manly colour before the trashy 1950s generation cane about and brought with them rigid gender dichotomy. Did you know that?

[arista]

Carolyn McCall
the CEO of ITV
creates a war.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Carolyn McCall
the CEO of ITV
creates a war.

oh fab much better than creating pink dresses

[Oliver_W]

Yawn. For all she knows she could be excluding the next Monty Python, all to signal about how 'inclusive' they're being.

The only question that should be asked is 'how much money will they make us?' Discriminating based on gender is just wrong.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Yawn. For all she knows she could be excluding the next Monty Python, all to signal about how 'inclusive' they're being.

The only question that should be asked is 'how much money will they make us?' Discriminating based on gender is just wrong.

Great Points
Oliver W.

[bitontheslide]

My understanding was that she reviewed the content and it was male centric. She then looked at the writers and there were 5 * as many male writers selected compared to women. Thats not a balanced situation.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Yawn. For all she knows she could be excluding the next Monty Python, all to signal about how 'inclusive' they're being.

The only question that should be asked is 'how much money will they make us?' Discriminating based on gender is just wrong.

Why can't a woman be part of the next "Monty Python"?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Why can't a woman be part of the next "Monty Python"?

Nobody is stopping them.

However, this CEO is saying that she'll stop men.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

However, this CEO is saying that she'll stop men.

No, she is not. She's creating opportunities for female writers.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Why can't a woman be part of the next "Monty Python"?

There was one Sexy Blonde
that did appear on the show.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Why can't a woman be part of the next "Monty Python"?

There could well be. Luckily such a team would be given the light, while a possible equally brilliant team will be discriminated against for their collective gender.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

There could well be. Luckily such a team would be given the light, while a possible equally brilliant team will be discriminated against for their collective gender.

Comedy is a massively gender biassed area when it comes to women being fairly dealt with and represented. Sometimes intervention is needed to kick things into modern times

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Comedy is a massively gender biassed area when it comes to women being fairly dealt with and represented. Sometimes intervention is needed to kick things into modern times

All that's "needed" is for it to be funny, and to make money.

A comedy which has great commercial potential and has a sense of humour which has wider subjectivity should come before something more niche, regardless of which genders have written which.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Yawn. For all she knows she could be excluding the next Monty Python, all to signal about how 'inclusive' they're being.

The only question that should be asked is 'how much money will they make us?' Discriminating based on gender is just wrong.

Arguably Cleese's best work, Faulty towers, was co-written with his wife a long time ago, so he had no issue with it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Yawn. For all she knows she could be excluding the next Monty Python, all to signal about how 'inclusive' they're being.

The only question that should be asked is 'how much money will they make us?' Discriminating based on gender is just wrong.

Because Monty Python only worked because they were all men?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Because Monty Python only worked because they were all men?

No, and that's obviously not what I meant.

There could be an amazing comedy writing team, poised to make their pitch for ITV ... but they wouldn't even be considered, due to their gender.

Discrimination.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No, and that's obviously not what I meant.

There could be an amazing comedy writing team, poised to make their pitch for ITV ... but they wouldn't even be considered, due to their gender.

Discrimination.

It's not discrimination at all.

She's had a very male centric slate of commissions, so now wants to broaden the range of content so is requesting a more gender balanced input. It's the entire opposite of discrimination. She hasn't put a big sign up saying "No Men!!"

More TV execs need to take a long hard look at their entire output and see what is repetitive and very samey and work towards broadening the range of voices being given the opportunity to add their voices to the choir.

More diversity is only a good thing, not just for opening up opportunities for more talent behind the scenes, but also giving the viewer a wider range of products to enjoy.

If everyone writing for TV comes from the same backgrounds/experiences, you're going to get an extremely vanilla output.

[Alf]

If you can't win fairly, then you may as well cheat.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Alf

If you can't win fairly, then you may as well cheat.

that's exactly what the male writers have been doing for decades

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Alf

If you can't win fairly, then you may as well cheat.

Some of the best new comedy is being written by women .

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Some of the best new comedy is being written by women .

Then I guess we should keep it as a meritocracy and leave it at that.