[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

And doesn't that just sum up the issue LT!

no as i dont care how happy any randomn is

James Cordon
Michael Ball
the whole of McBusted
her from Emmerdale
Ben Fogle

[Cherie]

They don’t seem to care too much about other peoples privacy while they are airing the dirty laundry

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They don’t seem to care too much about other peoples privacy while they are airing the dirty laundry

Yep...or demonstrating that kindness, compassion and 'family unity' (excuse me while I do some eye rolling) they are always on about.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by jet

No **** Sherlock.

So we're all finally getting onto the same page! We just need to let Jenny Bond know now, can you pop her a message.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They don’t seem to care too much about other peoples privacy while they are airing the dirty laundry

Originally Posted by jet

Yep...or demonstrating that kindness, compassion and 'family unity' (excuse me while I do some eye rolling) they are always on about.

Except that essentially all of their criticism in the interview was of the press and Royal management and literally none of it was of named family members. Much as certain Jenny Bonds would like to imagine otherwise (before it aired).

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So we're all finally getting onto the same page! We just need to let Jenny Bond know now, can you pop her a message.

You: It doesn't matter what you think of it. you don't get to decide

I'll contact Jennie pronto and let her know that her and I should cease having opinions immediately!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Except that essentially all of their criticism in the interview was of the press and Royal management and literally none of it was of named family members. Much as certain Jenny Bonds would like to imagine otherwise (before it aired).

I've found your posts really interesting.
Really strong points.

For myself I don't get this , they are airing the dirty laundry.

They are only talking about what affected THEM from others.
What impacted on them and their life in the Royal regime.

Surely people can talk about things that impacted negatively on them by others.
How else do you get closure.

Plus no one, no one at all has to or is forced to watch, listen to or read anything about them.
They choose to present it their way.
Rightly or wrongly.
That's their choice.
I'm mystified why anyone who doesn't like them even bothers to take notice of what they do or say, or what they may do or say either in the future.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Except that essentially all of their criticism in the interview was of the press and Royal management and literally none of it was of named family members. Much as certain Jenny Bonds would like to imagine otherwise (before it aired).

Right.....

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by jet

You: It doesn't matter what you think of it. you don't get to decide



I'll contact Jennie pronto and let her know that her and I should cease having opinions immediately!

Hooray!

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Except that essentially all of their criticism in the interview was of the press and Royal management and literally none of it was of named family members. Much as certain Jenny Bonds would like to imagine otherwise (before it aired).

i think calling every member of the royals a potential racist was pretty damaging

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I've found your posts really interesting.

Really strong points.



For myself I don't get this , they are airing the dirty laundry.



They are only talking about what affected THEM from others.

What impacted on them and their life in the Royal regime.



Surely people can talk about things that impacted negatively on them by others.

How else do you get closure.



Plus no one, no one at all has to or is forced to watch, listen to or read anything about them.

They choose to present it their way.

Rightly or wrongly.

That's their choice.

I'm mystified why anyone who doesn't like them even bothers to take notice of what they do or say, or what they may do or say either in the future.

If anything Joey I think they tried possibly too hard to "not name names" out of a desire to not get anyone specifically in trouble or their face all over the papers, but the effect has unfortunately been a lot of speculation. Often better to just set the record straight and go from there.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i think calling every member of the royals a potential racist was pretty damaging

They were only describing one of the reasons they felt uncomfortable there and - I'm afraid I'm going to have to be uncharacteristically blunt here - I honestly don't imagine that the monarchy-supporting section of the general public give a **** that a Royal family member made a flippant comment about race. Is it even vaguely new? When Phil was still young enough to get out and about it was a weekly occurrence; the papers could have had a regular dedicated "what casually racist things did Philip say this week" column. Maybe we collectively forgot and would now be shocked that a Royal asked Harry if his babies would be black, but I just can't see how. I'd have been more surprised if he had said that no one EVER asked.

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ent-truth.html

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If anything Joey I think they tried possibly too hard to "not name names" out of a desire to not get anyone specifically in trouble or their face all over the papers, but the effect has unfortunately been a lot of speculation. Often better to just set the record straight and go from there.

I agree absolutely with that..

Mind you, they'd then be being pilloried for determinedly trying to wreck the life of the named Royal.

Yes, however, go the whole way and say who it was who made the comment.
Which is their criticism, 'the comment'.
They never said the person who made the comment was a RACIST, they just highlighted the at best, possibly racially inappropriate comment/question.

[Zizu]

I’ll never understand the bad feeling towards Harry .. after losing his wonderful mum so young .. he’s had no kind of ‘real’ life until he found MM and eventually having a proper , loving FAMILY of his own ..

He’s clearly a good hearted young man and doesn’t deserve all this hatred


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ent-truth.html

Quite a few rebuttals and easily checked facts there

[joeysteele]

I don't think truth and the Daily Mail will ever go together.
The Mail does have an axe to grind re her, because she's just won a legal case against it.

[jet]

That lying Daily Mail, making up all those lies about the trips and holidays Meghan didn't take!

The day Meghan joined the Royal Family was, she claimed, 'the last time, until we came here, that I saw my passport, my driver's licence, my keys. All that gets turned over'.Oprah responded to this revelation by depicting her as a sort of UK version of the incarcerated Dubai Princess Latifah:

'The way you're describing this . . . it's like you were trapped,' she said. ' . . .that would be an accurate interpretation, yes?'
Meghan responded: 'That's the truth.'

It was a very odd form of imprisonment then. For in the six months after her wedding, Meghan was able to use that passport to take at least four foreign holidays, in addition to official tours, visiting Italy, Canada, and Amsterdam, as well as embarking on a lengthy honeymoon.
In 2019, she visited Ibiza, France (staying chez Elton John), Italy (again) and New York twice: once for a lavish baby shower, and again to see her chum Serena Williams play in the U.S. Open.
Those were just the private jaunts. She also travelled on official business to South Africa, Australia, Fiji, New Zealand, Ireland, Germany and Morocco.
..................
One example from the DM. Examples of the inconsistencies and lies are being talked about in other publications, TV and radio. It's not exclusive to the DM.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't think truth and the Daily Mail will ever go together.
The Mail does have an axe to grind re her, because she's just won a legal case against it.

Yes she Won One Case.

Lets see any others.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes she Won One Case.

Lets see any others.

It's still a win.

Indeed let's see if there will be others.

Anyone who can take on and win against that gutter trash publication.
Gets a thumbs up from me.

[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jet

That lying Daily Mail, making up all those lies about the trips and holidays Meghan didn't take!

The day Meghan joined the Royal Family was, she claimed, 'the last time, until we came here, that I saw my passport, my driver's licence, my keys. All that gets turned over'.Oprah responded to this revelation by depicting her as a sort of UK version of the incarcerated Dubai Princess Latifah:

'The way you're describing this . . . it's like you were trapped,' she said. ' . . .that would be an accurate interpretation, yes?'
Meghan responded: 'That's the truth.'

It was a very odd form of imprisonment then. For in the six months after her wedding, Meghan was able to use that passport to take at least four foreign holidays, in addition to official tours, visiting Italy, Canada, and Amsterdam, as well as embarking on a lengthy honeymoon.
In 2019, she visited Ibiza, France (staying chez Elton John), Italy (again) and New York twice: once for a lavish baby shower, and again to see her chum Serena Williams play in the U.S. Open.
Those were just the private jaunts. She also travelled on official business to South Africa, Australia, Fiji, New Zealand, Ireland, Germany and Morocco.
..................
One example from the DM. Examples of the inconsistencies and lies are being talked about in other publications, TV and radio. It's not exclusive to the DM.

What an imprisonment

[rusticgal]

Oh dear...its all backfiring. All their lies coming to the fore making them look bitter and twisted and massively attention seeking.
Harry may well have an uncomfortable visit here when he comes in July...the immaturity of them both, particularly Harry to not foresee the repercussions of what they did. What was this interview meant to achieve??....how was it ever going to build bridges making vile accusations about your family to the whole world?. Meghan couldnt give a damn...she dropped her family at the drop of a hat over a newspaper article...disgusted that he would go public unyet here she is doing far worse to Harrys family. The hypocrisy. She knew the damage it would cause and Harry stupidly went along with it. Meghan doesnt care if she never stepped foot in this country again...will their children ever see any of their grandparents?...this has all happened by the obsession of one person to get massive publicity admiration and adoration as a woman who is empowered to speak out....and does not care who she hurts in the process.

[Toy Soldier]

Nothing is "backfiring", no one's opinion is any different now to what it was before the interview, you only need to glance at this forum to know that. That was always going to be the case. Evidenced by those super special Royal Commentatorz giving their opinion on the content of the interview before they even saw it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Oh dear...its all backfiring. All their lies coming to the fore making them look bitter and twisted and massively attention seeking.
Harry may well have an uncomfortable visit here when he comes in July...the immaturity of them both, particularly Harry to not foresee the repercussions of what they did. What was this interview meant to achieve??....how was it ever going to build bridges making vile accusations about your family to the whole world?. Meghan couldnt give a damn...she dropped her family at the drop of a hat over a newspaper article...disgusted that he would go public unyet here she is doing far worse to Harrys family. The hypocrisy. She knew the damage it would cause and Harry stupidly went along with it. Meghan doesnt care if she never stepped foot in this country again...will their children ever see any of their grandparents?...this has all happened by the obsession of one person to get massive publicity admiration and adoration as a woman who is empowered to speak out....and does not care who she hurts in the process.

Very well said!