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Old 16-07-2013, 11:12 AM #26
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For me where Hazel really let herself down was when she returned to the safe house, by doing that she condoned his actions and has put a ? in some people's minds, personally I would have insisted on returning to the main house, not rolled back into bed with him as if nothing had happened, she is a disgrace, and she should have been booted out with him.
Thank you, I said this on another thread. She was so scared, she spent the rest of the night in the same room as him. What a load of cobblers. After that, I lost any sympathy for her
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So many people all over Twitter, Youtube and even a couple of people on here appear to be defending Daley's actions. I can't help but wonder whether their reaction would be the same if "homewrecking ***** Hazel" (to quote many people!) was replaced with our own cute little Sophie. If we sat back and watched Sophie giggle away having a pillow fight with Daley and pull his shorts down, only for him to grab her by her neck and threaten her, everyone would be outraged. How dare he treat Sophie wrong like that, she didn't deserve that!

Don't get me wrong, in no way at all do I support what Hazel did and she fully deserved to get her warning. However, I don't understand at all how she "asked for it" re: Daleys throat grabbing.
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Is this twitter real? Look what he retweened

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The world has come to something when someone's inability to control their own thoughts, words, actions and behaviour is the fault of someone else.
Don't you know? No-one has to take any responsibility for their actions anymore, everything wrong that you do can be blamed on some external influence. Nothing is ever one's fault. I am truly afraid for the future of the country with this type of mentality being so prevalent these days.

These people are supposed to be adults. Instead we have a bunch of self-obsessed, self-entitled little brats who show disturbingly low morals and ethics. Seeing this kind of sh!t seriously makes me want to re-introduce the cane back into schools.
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I can't say I'm surprised. Yesterday, I would have been surprised... but not today. Not after seeing what some people have written on this forum. I've been all the more shocked by females. Not that Hazel was 100% in the right... but no one deserves to be assaulted. Not ever. Never.
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To be honest I agree with them, Hazel pulled his strings to the point where he was forced to get that angry
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Hazel pulled his strings
Totally agree. She's bang out of order, and only a fool wouldn't be able to see that.

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to the point where he was forced to get that angry
Absolutely disagree. He was not FORCED to get that angry, he was not forced to respond the way he did. Obviously his brain is far too small to think of a more appropriate and dignified way to respond to her actions, and that's a shame. But still, no excuse for what he did. The guy's obviously a bit simple - not the first of that type we've seen on BB.
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To be honest I agree with them, Hazel pulled his strings to the point where he was forced to get that angry
A few weeks ago I got angry with my wife. I shouted. She shouted. We went to separate rooms. We cooled off. Things were uncomfortable for a couple of days.

At no point did I threaten to headbutt her. At no point did I grab her by the throat.

And that is in the privacy of my own home, with someone ive known for 20 years.

If daley is cabable of these things, live on TV, with millions watching, with a girl he has known for a month, that isnt his girlfriend, that he hasnt even kissed.

Enough said
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To be honest I agree with them, Hazel pulled his strings to the point where he was forced to get that angry
Here I go again with the same thing I've said a ****ing hundred times today...

You cannot use the excuse that you were provoked into assaulting someone.

Daley is supposed to be a boxer, isn't that all about control? And yet he struck a woman and put his hands round her throat in a threatening way. And you're saying she "forced him to get that angry"? Really?
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A few weeks ago I got angry with my wife. I shouted. She shouted. We went to separate rooms. We cooled off. Things were uncomfortable for a couple of days.

At no point did I threaten to headbutt her. At no point did I grab her by the throat.

And that is in the privacy of my own home, with someone ive known for 20 years.

If daley is cabable of these things, live on TV, with millions watching, with a girl he has known for a month, that isnt his girlfriend, that he hasnt even kissed.

Enough said
And that's the difference between being a man... and being someone like Daley.
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Having a look through, the majority of support appears to be from teenage girls. So its probably just the 'hez so fit' factor. Much like Conors support from teens last year.
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Having a look through, the majority of support appears to be from teenage girls. So its probably just the 'hez so fit' factor. Much like Conors support from teens last year.
It always amazes me... it's like women who write to men in prison or on death row, who've committed the most heinous crimes. It's kind of sad.
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Having a look through, the majority of support appears to be from teenage girls. So its probably just the 'hez so fit' factor. Much like Conors support from teens last year.
Which is a scary notion. But not all of his support is from teenage girls. We saw, and heard, that on BBBOTS last night.
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Re my post above, I apologize I wrote quite quickly without much thought. What I meant was that yes, he's entirely in the wrong and deserved to be ejected. Violence and threatening behavior is never an option and it should by no means be condoned. That being said, it does need to be taken into account that Hazel is by no means an innocent victim in this. I believe that it would've been fair for her to be removed as well, for hitting him as well as, more importantly, violating his privacy by pulling down his pants.
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And that's the difference between being a man... and being someone like Daley.
Its about respect, basic human respect.

People will always revert to kind. If you have respect in you, it will come through. If you lack respect it will show.

By the way, Sophie is a blackbelt. Imagine what would have happened if he had done the same to her? But that is the thing, people like daley dont grab people like sophie by the throat. They have no problem doing it to people like hazel though, when they are alone, in the dark. After all she flirted....
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@DaleyOjuederie you should of done worse to hazel shes a bitch
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I posted this twitter last night thinking it was his but a few members said it's fake and posted a link to the real one.
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His real one is like I am daley star or something like that
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Its not even his real account

This is https://twitter.com/IamDaleyStar
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For me where Hazel really let herself down was when she returned to the safe house, by doing that she condoned his actions and has put a ? in some people's minds, personally I would have insisted on returning to the main house, not rolled back into bed with him as if nothing had happened, she is a disgrace, and she should have been booted out with him.
Not quite my point though Cherie. I never said Hazel was innocent, I said Daley's actions are his own doing, nobody else can be blamed for that.

This thread is about Daley and I'm pointing out how people hold Hazel responsible for her own actions... and Daley's as well. Very unfair IMO.

Nothing she did warranted being booted out, they both got punishments that fit their rule breaks.
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I'm so glad that most of the people here seem to agree that the Daley 'support' is disgusting & wrong. How can ANYONE turn that on Hazel? The minds of some women sometimes makes me scared sometimes, Daley literally turned into a psycho & pinned her down by her throat threatening to 'do her over' or something - yet Hazel is the bad guy? Well I'm sorry but no she isn't.

& the reason she acted normal around him afterwards is because she clearly felt awkward & in shock that what happened was actually real & not a joke (which she thought it was at first).

You can dislike Hazel for the flirting or whatever but to dislike her for what Daley did is pathetic.
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Not quite my point though Cherie. I never said Hazel was innocent, I said Daley's actions are his own doing, nobody else can be blamed for that.

This thread is about Daley and I'm pointing out how people hold Hazel responsible for her own actions... and Daley's as well. Very unfair IMO.

Nothing she did warranted being booted out, they both got punishments that fit their rule breaks.
Oh totally agree with that.
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reminds me of that whole chris brown/rihanna thing..after that went down, all of teenie bopper Brown fans still loved him
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Daley deserves zero support for his actions.
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