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10-11-2017, 09:27 AM | #26 | |||
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10-11-2017, 12:07 PM | #27 | ||
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Good grief,even when nature is trying to or telling her to shut up,she still even ignores that and still forces herself on people to have to listen to her croaking. |
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10-11-2017, 12:48 PM | #28 | |||
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RIP Pyramid, Andyman ,Kerry and Lex xx https://www.facebook.com/JamesBulgerMT/?fref=photo "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, most people would be vegetarian" |
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10-11-2017, 01:16 PM | #29 | |||
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She could always do a stint on some cheap reality tv show.
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10-11-2017, 01:41 PM | #30 | ||
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I think the "tribalism" problem spills over quite a lot here, too... essentially the idea that if you support something, you must not be critical of it in any way, you must pretend that it's all great for fear that the other "side" might feel like they have any sort of point (which must never happen).
What I'm saying here is... it is OK to be a Tory supporter, and to remain a Tory supporter, whilst also admitting that Theresa May has been a fairly weak and incompetent Prime Minister. There also seems to be a lot of sympathy for her, which is also fine, we can have sympathy for people even when their predicament is in large part their own doing, but it is worth admitting that much of the mess she now finds herself in is down to her putting her own personal ambition above other concerns, and being fairly short-sighted there. She willing took a poisoned chalice in taking over as PM after Cameron quit, and we can hardly say that it wasn't knowingly... Cameron knew, that's why he dropped the position like a sack of radioactive waste. BoJo knew, that's why he distanced himself from his PM ambitions at that time and didn't even put his hat in. The vast majority of high-ranking Tories knew that it was going to be a ****show. May grabbed it, I guess probably telling herself that she was up to the task, but the fact is, she hasn't been. You can admit that and still be a Tory... it won't cause anyone to morph into a Corbynite over night. |
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10-11-2017, 01:48 PM | #31 | |||
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As a tory supporter I can't stand her, but she is being given a lot of unfair criticism. I'm sorry, but disgusting is just not an adjective i will see directed at her without comment, as it is completely unwarranted. That's not suggesting she has not made mistakes or that at least some of it is of her own making, just that there are many people in the world that warrant the label disgusting, and TM isn't one of them
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10-11-2017, 02:00 PM | #32 | ||
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Actually for me,the thread itself has an odd title.
Fun Time Theresa. Not in a million years could I think of the word fun and Theresa May in the same sentence. |
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10-11-2017, 02:05 PM | #33 | ||
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Well she'd never consider anything cheap for sure,not for herself that is.
However,come to think about it,she could perhaps learn something if she actually did engage on a reality show,with very different people to herself. |
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10-11-2017, 02:14 PM | #34 | ||
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10-11-2017, 03:14 PM | #35 | |||
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So how come you get access to her cupboards and wardrobes
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10-11-2017, 03:34 PM | #36 | ||
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10-11-2017, 03:57 PM | #37 | ||
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10-11-2017, 04:18 PM | #38 | ||
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10-11-2017, 04:39 PM | #39 | |||
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A typical distortion of the facts again. The asylum seekers have taken it upon themselves to make videos, they were not asked to produce them fgs. Also, its being made out that its persecution of the LGBT community, when its not. People using relationships as a means of entering the country have to satisfy the authorities that they are genuine because so many fake it to gain entry. Falsifying documents etc. Its not specifically targeting any particular group. If one cites a reason for seeking asylum, one needs to back it up, and that applies all over the world
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10-11-2017, 04:42 PM | #40 | |||
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10-11-2017, 04:54 PM | #41 | ||
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Just how does someone convince authorities they are gay or lesbian. Since you admit that has to be proven to the authorities satisfaction. If the questioned own words aren't enough,which it clearly isn't, how should anyone and what should they do to prove they are gay/lesbian. Anyone who doesn't care a jot for sexual and or human rights possibly,will dismiss this as nonsense. Since though people claiming to be gay/lesbian,who you say yourself have to convince authorities they really are,how then do they do so? Easy to poo poo others research to blindly try to defend an intrusive wrong by authorities,allowed by government too. Last edited by joeysteele; 10-11-2017 at 04:55 PM. |
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10-11-2017, 05:12 PM | #42 | |||
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https://www.sussex.ac.uk/webteam/gat...75.pdf&site=58 Unfortunately, not many people know a lot about the stuff that goes on in detention centres...it just doesn't get reported that much. I have to refrain from reading some of it because it just makes me too me angry, but I have a general understanding of the kind of abuses that go on. http://www.righttoremain.org.uk are good source to utilise This government is beyond the pale in so many respects. But apparently 'disgusting' is too strong a term, poor Theresa is so gutted about losing her parliamentary majority, we must cut her some slack Quote:
This is now the third passive aggressive post you've made in this thread, addressing comments I've made with snide digs but not to me. I am not scary bitontheslide, you can engage in a discussion with me directly. On a separate note...since you had such an issue with my use of the word 'disgusting', I'm curious as to why if such an adjective should only be reserved for the most abhorrent of people, you used it to describe two Big Brother housemates just a few months ago? Quote:
Time to practice what you preach. There was no outcry about it because a) it doesn't get reported enough and b) people ~generally~ care very little about anyone but themselves, this thread is proving as much. Now are you going to engage in a debate, read some articles and learn some things Kazanne, or are you - like BOTS - just going to continue to make passive aggressive snide digs at me? I get you don't like me, I don't expect you to, but if you want to participate in the discussion then do so. Considering the discussion everyone had the other day I find this incredibly petty and disappointing from the pair of you. |
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10-11-2017, 05:23 PM | #43 | ||
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I can't imagine what kind of 'proof' they reckon exists if they are not accepting testimony from people who know the people in question to 'prove' that the asylum seekers are gay, yet apparently do not want porn?
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if that makes sense Total bloody minefield. Also fairly annoying is how it seems judges are only accepting gay people are gay if they are 'stereotypically gay'..for example only 'counting' gay men as gay if they are feminine and camp, by the looks of it, as otherwise its 'hiding your sexuality'
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10-11-2017, 05:41 PM | #44 | ||
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Truly commendable responses Jack_.
Thanks from me for one for submitting and highlighting results of your factual research on several issues. I knew of some of it but you helped clarify some points I wasn't fully aware of. Last edited by joeysteele; 10-11-2017 at 06:12 PM. |
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10-11-2017, 05:44 PM | #45 | ||
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10-11-2017, 06:08 PM | #46 | |||
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10-11-2017, 06:52 PM | #47 | |||
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10-11-2017, 07:22 PM | #48 | |||
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When it comes to political debate, too many people beat their chest without knowing much at all about the topic they are partaking in. Politics are so often treated like a faith that has to be worshipped and protected.
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10-11-2017, 07:40 PM | #49 | ||
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I feel like I should clarify that a bit actually. I don't think I'm guilty if not being knowledgeable of things that I pretend to be, nor am I saying that my basic stance on most things has necessarily changed, however I have been guilty of tackling things from a "ur just wrong let's fight about that" perspective rather than actually bothering to at least try to understand properly where people's opinions are coming from, even the ones I don't agree with. Full disclosure on my thinking for why I've been doing this; purely intellectual laziness and apathy. But I reckon... If I can't be bothered to think things through properly, I should probably just not engage at all rather than the endless groundhog day back and forward of the same old arguments and catchphrases. I'm being the change I'd like to see! Tbqfh I'm a ****ing hero. A hero. A champion. A warrior of light. Last edited by Toy Soldier; 10-11-2017 at 07:57 PM. |
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10-11-2017, 07:55 PM | #50 | |||
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It must be something in the water TS because I've been thinking about it for the last few days too.
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