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17-05-2017, 11:52 AM | #126 | |||
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I agree about people from all walks of life, regardless of their political thinking, enjoying fox hunting. There are still activists keeping a very close eye on legal fox hunters and insuring they don't do anything illegal but those who go out lamping, "illegal fox hunters", they are no different to illegal poachers. When you say, Labour banned it but aren't keeping a proper eye on the enforcement, Labour are not the party in power. The only top down (on things like illegal fox hunting) we presently have is the Conservative government.
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17-05-2017, 11:58 AM | #127 | ||
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17-05-2017, 12:04 PM | #128 | ||
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They have not been the govt.for the last 7 years,why have your Cons not made the Police enforce this. I'll tell you why,because the Cons are in principle against the ban,so will not make sure it's enforced. Hence now bringing it back. Perhaps had Labour won in 2010 or 2015 and when it was clear these hunt organisers could get away with illegally flouting the ban,then Labour could be asked why they were able to get away with that. People who love animals should be grateful Labour brought the ban in,in the first place. Rather than not get at the Con led govts of the last 7 years,who have let their supporters/friends/donaters in these hunts get-away with breaking the law. They won't be breaking any law once she holds this vote and it's legalised again. Why does only the Con party advocate legalising this again. That's the question people would be better asking. Last edited by joeysteele; 17-05-2017 at 12:33 PM. |
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17-05-2017, 12:39 PM | #129 | ||
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If the foxes weren't so feckless and lazy the hounds wouldn't be able to catch them and they would have nothing to worry about
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17-05-2017, 12:42 PM | #130 | |||
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17-05-2017, 12:48 PM | #131 | |||
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17-05-2017, 02:01 PM | #132 | ||
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So it's their fault these jumped up sick huntspeople don't respect laws. Labour were bothered enough to ban it in the first place despite Conservative opposition to a ban. You let the Cons off again, this is one area of lawbreaking the Conservatives are not bothered about. The ban has been in place around 12 years,the Cons have been in govt.for over 7 of those years,and allowed the law to be broken. Not the Labour party or any other party. Now these want to legalise it again and you will get at Labour and find ways to excuse the Cons who have not pursued their 'friends' breaking this law. How on earth do you know Labour would not have tightened this law up had they stayed in power,after getting reports of repeated lawbreaking as to it. Now the Cons again show their true colours on this and will vote to bring it back. Yet this is Labour's fault. For crying out loud. Really I give up.I really do. Unbelievable. |
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17-05-2017, 02:21 PM | #133 | |||
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All parties are guilty of turning a blind eye to this but the Conservatives are responsible for the last 7 years that illegal hunting has going on, Labour for the previous 5 years (although I don't know enough about the issue to say how much still went on during the initial years just after the ban). It is a highly emotive issue and had the voting been closer this certainly could have been a vote loser for the Tories. Its not going to have that much of an impact in this election though sadly and so if Mrs May wants the vote offered, it looks like she would get a free reign to do so.
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17-05-2017, 02:39 PM | #134 | |||
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What ever way you look at it, you can't blame Labour for this!
Blair banned fox hunting Cameron tried to re-instate fox hunting May is now following in Cameron's shoes The reason illegal hunters rarely find themselves in the dock is because the leaders of the Conservative government think its a waste of tax payers money.
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17-05-2017, 02:45 PM | #135 | ||
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17-05-2017, 03:57 PM | #136 | |||
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17-05-2017, 04:32 PM | #137 | |||
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17-05-2017, 05:10 PM | #138 | ||
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You bring in a law and expect people to act according to the law. Yet the hunt organisers started to find ways to act illegally. I would doubt a large number of illegal hunts took place in the early years actually. There's a law in place,that should be abided by if the hunt supporters break the law,they should be prosecuted. That they are not,is a reflection on the Police and govt too. I repeat, this was made law in 2005.rolled out thereafter. The last 7 years has the Party that was against banning it in power and them in that 7 years not doing a thing to ensure prosecution of their hunting friends. Since 2015, the Cons have been intent on making it legal again,it was there is the 2015 manifesto and will be there this time again. They have never liked it banned in any shape or form. Only.them,no other party. If it is made legal again,they will be the only ones to do it and want it to be. Everyone who votes for May's Con party this time will be helping them do it too. That's fine if people aren't bothered either way but they cannot then shed tears for the animals that will be legally chased and hunted down by dogs again for good,when this passes the vote she will be putting to Parliament. .... and I predict it will be passed with great ease too with lots more Con MPs. |
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17-05-2017, 06:03 PM | #139 | |||
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17-05-2017, 08:36 PM | #140 | ||
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I recall reading in 2004 that the vote to ban foxhunting had only 12 Labour MPs voting against and we'll over 300 supporting the ban.
The Cons had under 200 MPs at that time whereby only 6 supported the banning of foxhunting with 115 of Con MPs voting against banning it. The vote being something like 320 for the ban and 145 against,of which 115 of those 145 being said Con MPs. The Lords were obstructive and then speaker Michael Martin allowed the parliament act to get this made into law. The Cons were against all through. Now consider,under 200 Con MPs with 115 voting to keep foxhunting legal then. Imagine likely nearer 400 of them after this election. That does not bode well for the Fox at all and shows the Cons have always been the ones the most against making foxhunting illegal and the ones who have been and are,the ones who want it legalised again. |
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18-05-2017, 02:23 PM | #141 | ||
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It is there in the Conservative manifesto,not a Mrs May's personal hope only,there as a Conservative manifesto commitment to hold a vote.
Anyone voting Conservative now opens up the risk of this being legalised again. Which it will be,with no chance of it ever being banned again likely either. Anyone who hates this barbaric hunting,the urgent warning is there for all to see. It is going to a vote. It will be legalised again. Votng Conservative ensures its greater likelihood to be legalised. No good complaining in 2022,once it has then been voted back by the vast majority of Con MPs. Last edited by joeysteele; 18-05-2017 at 04:28 PM. |
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18-05-2017, 05:47 PM | #142 | |||
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So I just heard that there is to be a 'free vote' to give the option to bring back fox hunting.
Would anyone seriously vote yes to this? it's barbaric and not a sport it's repulsive to hunt something until it is torn apart by a pack of dogs.
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18-05-2017, 05:51 PM | #143 | |||
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im for it, foxes are pests and kill out chickens for fun.
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18-05-2017, 05:53 PM | #144 | |||
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18-05-2017, 06:01 PM | #145 | |||
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So shoot them. No need to chase them for hours and and have them ripped apart.
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18-05-2017, 06:05 PM | #146 | |||
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18-05-2017, 06:07 PM | #147 | |||
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18-05-2017, 06:32 PM | #148 | |||
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18-05-2017, 07:25 PM | #149 | ||
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Sadly Amy,yes people will support May and her Party on this by voting for her Party.
Even those claiming to detest this form of hunting are willing to take the risk of this coming back. To me and I've had this view since a child who witnessed the end of a hunt while playing with friends which traumatised me, I not only detest this kind of hunting but also those who do it and those who support it and would legalise again them doing it too. People who support this disgust me and it reveals a lot to me as the people they really are, with their sick cruel thinking too. Last edited by joeysteele; 18-05-2017 at 07:27 PM. |
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18-05-2017, 07:46 PM | #150 | |||
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never in a million years could I be friends with someone who supported fox hunting, it's barbaric and I just cannot get my head around why anyone would get entertainment from killing animals of any kind. I'd love it if these vile people could come back as a hunted animal and let them get ripped apart too. Hunting of any kind is just wrong in my view. I could never be friends with anyone who supported this.
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