[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Just as there's a difference between 12 and 19.

But a 2 year old doesn’t know the difference between wrong and right. A 12 year old does. As does a 19 year old.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

How so? He’s still being punished for his actions but she’s catfished him and posed as someone she isn’t to have sex - that’s messed up.

Because the age of consent means that if you're a minor you can't consent to sex, it's there to protect the minor from themselves as much as the person who sleeps with them. The whole point is because of their age they can't make that decision, same as why you wouldn't punish a 12 year old for lying about their age to buy alcohol

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

No, I must get her passport re done.

Wouldn’t it be cheaper to get her a provisional driving license? Or use or DL if she had one?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nobody's life would be ruined if the adult (ie. the 27 year old for clarification) acted like one.

So your saying adults don't have sex?? Because the only thing he was guilty of is thinking he is meeting a 19 year old for sex

[Denver]

The mother let's her 12 year old have unauthorised internet access and doesn't bat an eyelid when she goes missing for a night.

How are social services not involved

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

He lost his job home and freedom, would he have done it if he knew her true age?

That's the crux ain't it.....the way he behaved after this event leads me more to believing he would have.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

So your saying adults don't have sex?? Because the only thing he was guilty of is thinking he is meeting a 19 year old for sex

How on Earth did you get that from what Marsh posted

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

But a 2 year old doesn’t know the difference between wrong and right. A 12 year old does. As does a 19 year old.

A 12 year old doesn't have anything close to a full adult understanding of basic consequences, let alone the ability to comprehend adult sexual relationships or the complexities / legality of the age of consent. That's WHY the age of consent exists in the first place... it's the adult's responsibility... and "well she said..." isn't a valid excuse because if there is ANY doubt about age it's the adult's responsibility to either be sure or to just not go there.

I would say there are exceptional circumstances when teenagers at say 15 look MUCH older like 25+, which does happen. But courts assess these things. I think reading between the lines, law officials have looked seen the girl and thought "No she does not look 19, whether she said she was or not".

[Northern Monkey]

If this 27 year old is dumb enough to get catfished by a 12 year old then I don’t think he’s mentally mature enough to be having sex tbh.
Imagine if he has his own kids.They’ll be wrapping him around their finger by the time they hit 12.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

A 12 year old doesn't have anything close to a full adult understanding of basic consequences, let alone the ability to comprehend adult sexual relationships or the complexities / legality of the age of consent. That's WHY the age of consent exists in the first place... it's the adult's responsibility... and "well she said..." isn't a valid excuse because if there is ANY doubt about age it's the adult's responsibility to either be sure or to just not go there.

I would say there are exceptional circumstances when teenagers at say 15 look MUCH older like 25+, which does happen. But courts assess these things. I think reading between the lines, law officials have looked seen the girl and thought "No she does not look 19, whether she said she was or not".

Yeah even if she did look 19, him at 27, hooking up with a stranger for sex from a website should have made sure. I think if you're going to sleep with people you don't know and they look late teen/early 20's even you need to check.

ETA : and this isn't just at the men, adult women doing the same thing equally should be checking

[Cherie]

Imagine being 27 and showing nudes to your mates like some sweaty 14 year old

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Imagine being 27 and showing nudes to your mates like some sweaty 14 year old

I know, gross

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Imagine being 27 and showing nudes to your mates like some sweaty 14 year old

Women are just as guilty

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Women are just as guilty

Like some sweaty 14 year old........ (she didn't say boy or girl)

[Amy Jade]

Also wondering why her parents never set an age restriction on her purchases if she used an app? My auntie has kids from 4 - 13 and they can't buy anything without her knowing.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Clearly not if the parents are failing their jobs.

Social services should be involved because clearly this woman is a terrible parent

Proposing banning anyone under the age of 16 from having phones is ****ing ridiculous and the epitome of a knee jerk reaction.

[parmnion]

And I find it insulting to compare 18 and 19yr olds with children or being childlike....


Especially the ones keeping you safe at night..very patronising Imo. ...but I won't bring it up.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

And I find it insulting to compare 18 and 19yr olds with children or being childlike....


Especially the ones keeping you safe at night..very patronising Imo. ...but I won't bring it up.

I have an 18 year old and she is very childlike still in alot of ways tbf and mature in others, just like I assume 18 year old soldiers etc are

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I have an 18 year old and she is very childlike still in alot of ways tbf and mature in others, just like I assume 18 year old soldiers etc are

As I am sure even us at a more senior age will be at times as well.

[armand.kay]

You really expect me to believe someone in year 7 convicted him she was 19??? and then to add to that he took and shared unsolicited pornographic pics of her??? THROW AWAY THE KEY!!!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

As I am sure even us at a more senior age will be at times as well.

Never!

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Adam.

She has ruined his life so that's a lie

He ruined his own life by sleeping with a child.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

He ruined his own life by sleeping with a child.

Yep.

I think the social workers need to do some digging actually to see if that girl had been abused, acting the way she is at 12 could be an indicator of that

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah even if she did look 19, him at 27, hooking up with a stranger for sex from a website should have made sure. I think if you're going to sleep with people you don't know and they look late teen/early 20's even you need to check.

ETA : and this isn't just at the men, adult women doing the same thing equally should be checking

Come on strangers meet for sex everyday they don’t use protection let alone do a background check.

It’s the same for internet sites that pair you up with people who want sex.

[montblanc]

how do you confuse a 12 year old for a 19 year old