Formula 1 - Archive Thread

[Iceman]

Originally posted by Gemmer-x
eeep i hope Massa's okay, the crash was nasty

Yeah it was.

Skynews and BBC wont show it now anymore in case he dies. I remember the uproar when they basically showed Senna die live on TV, they dont want to be blamed for showing the crash that may cause a fatal injury....I hope it doesn't happen though...:sad::sad::sad::sad:

[pinkmichk]

if thats what his head looks like where the spring hit i can only imagine whats going on out of sight under that helmet the fact the visor didnt break means that effectively his helmet punched him in the head at 170 mph under however many g he would be under
i agree iceman its not looking good for his long term racing future

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
if thats what his head looks like where the spring hit i can only imagine whats going on out of sight under that helmet the fact the visor didnt break means that effectively his helmet punched him in the head at 170 mph under however many g he would be under
i agree iceman its not looking good for his long term racing future

Poor Massa I mean whatever your going to say about Hamilton winning last year, Massa was unlucky on a couple of occassions: pit stop debacle, last lap Brazil. I think he should have been champion lasyt year and always will, I think it's a shame that he may never get the opportunity to become F1 Champion and be up there with the likes of Senna....:sad:

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by pinkmichk
if thats what his head looks like where the spring hit i can only imagine whats going on out of sight under that helmet the fact the visor didnt break means that effectively his helmet punched him in the head at 170 mph under however many g he would be under
i agree iceman its not looking good for his long term racing future

Poor Massa I mean whatever your going to say about Hamilton winning last year, Massa was unlucky on a couple of occassions: pit stop debacle, last lap Brazil. I think he should have been champion lasyt year and always will, I think it's a shame that he may never get the opportunity to become F1 Champion and be up there with the likes of Senna....:sad:

obviously i'm gonna say hamilton should have got it like he did but massa raced a really good season last year even when kimi was seemingly in the early stages of giving up and had those things not happened to massa then i agree he would have got champion

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by pinkmichk
if thats what his head looks like where the spring hit i can only imagine whats going on out of sight under that helmet the fact the visor didnt break means that effectively his helmet punched him in the head at 170 mph under however many g he would be under
i agree iceman its not looking good for his long term racing future

Poor Massa I mean whatever your going to say about Hamilton winning last year, Massa was unlucky on a couple of occassions: pit stop debacle, last lap Brazil. I think he should have been champion lasyt year and always will, I think it's a shame that he may never get the opportunity to become F1 Champion and be up there with the likes of Senna....:sad:

obviously i'm gonna say hamilton should have got it like he did but massa raced a really good season last year even when kimi was seemingly in the early stages of giving up and had those things not happened to massa then i agree he would have got champion

For the last 3 seasons it has gone down to the wire and it has benn great and by the looks of things now its heading that way again.

I bet poor Rubens feels guilty for this.......

[pinkmichk]

yep the past couple seasons have been really good where there is racing til the end
i'll bet he does even though nothing he could have done to stop it so do we think this is the unravelling of brawn that we have all been waiting to come?

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
yep the past couple seasons have been really good where there is racing til the end
i'll bet he does even though nothing he could have done to stop it so do we think this is the unravelling of brawn that we have all been waiting to come?

I think Brawn will struggle to win another race this season, if Lewis plays it cool tomorrow and waits until lap 2-3 before he attacks he will win, he's always too aggressive at first corner as proved in the last race.....

[Iceman]

He's in a stable satisfactory condition now, looking a lot better than he did an hour ago

[pinkmichk]

thank goodness for that he will be out for a long time i just read about the chelsea goalkeeper (sorry dont follow football) when he got a fractured skull or similar they said up to 2 years before fully healed and compared to f1 racing football is a picnic in the park

and i just read this
:shocked:

[Iceman]

Sky news are contradicting themselves now saying he's still critical, I think it's just a matter of waiting a few hours before any new info comes out....

[pinkmichk]

this is what i read
"ross brawn confirms the part that hit felipe massa was the spring from a damper on barrichellos car weighing around 800 grammes"

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
this is what i read
"ross brawn confirms the part that hit felipe massa was the spring from a damper on barrichellos car weighing around 800 grammes"

If you calculate that it's a massive blow to the head at that speed im actually surprised he was consciou at all now...

I think they are going to have to redesign the helmet now completely.

Especially with Surtees dying last week and now Massa with this trauma. I think they need to blast stuff at the helmets becuase the way they test them is to drop them from heights and calculate speed.

[pinkmichk]

i'm no good at working out all the mass speed distance stuff but he was going fast and i'm guessing from the vid the spring was travelling pretty fast too so would have hit him with considerable force

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
i'm no good at working out all the mass speed distance stuff but he was going fast and i'm guessing from the vid the spring was travelling pretty fast too so would have hit him with considerable force

Yeah exactly, I hope he does recover and there's no permanent damage it would be horrible to see his career cut short....

[Iceman]

Originally posted by Iceman
Woah just watched Qualifying real bad crash for Felipe.

He's okay now but a piece of Barichello's car hit him in the head and knocked him unconscious then he has a real bad crash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWzWXgeT0FY

Just bumping in case people dont know what were talking about plus sky havent shown the crash now in a few hours...

[pinkmichk]

just read this
There is contrasting news on his condition. While Ferrari and Felipe's personal doctor say Felipe's situation is serious but under control, news leaked from the hospital is more worrying: Felipe had suffered a skull fracture with brain damage, the seriousness of which is yet to be evaluated. A clearer idea about the actual conditions of massa will probably be available tomorrow. and i also read that he has eye damage

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
just read this
There is contrasting news on his condition. While Ferrari and Felipe's personal doctor say Felipe's situation is serious but under control, news leaked from the hospital is more worrying: Felipe had suffered a skull fracture with brain damage, the seriousness of which is yet to be evaluated. A clearer idea about the actual conditions of massa will probably be available tomorrow. and i also read that he has eye damage

I seriously think this has something to do with Max and Bernie trying to cover it up for some reason....

[pinkmichk]

yeah we def not getting all the story i also just read but closed the window before copy and pasting that apparently barrichello was worried something was coming away near the beginning of qualie if thats the case why did he stay out if thats the case brawn/barrichello could be facing a huge law suit

also ferrai is a italian team and the italian laws are very very strict over stuff like this they still even all these still trying to sort out after sennas crash

[Iceman]

SkyNews just reprted that he has 2 fractures to the skull and the piece of debris weighed 1kg = roughly 2 pounds.

They will also have an eyewitness on sportsline at 10.30 if you're interested.

Yeah all the stuff with Senna will never be fully known, there is more footage that is being held back and everyone knows it, it just doesn't dissappear....

[pinkmichk]

is sportline on skynews? wonder who that could be a marshall maybe? so sky news is slowly catching up with other news outlets that bit i last copied was from a hungry news company and someone translated i think

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
is sportline on skynews? wonder who that could be a marshall maybe? so sky news is slowly catching up with other news outlets that bit i last copied was from a hungry news company and someone translated i think

Yes Sportsline is on SkyNews at 10.30 they will have Massa as top story, they have Massa as the second main headline so they are sticking with it albeit a little behind......

Most other news sources ive read are ahead of them. I just looked at wikipedia and they havent changed his page they said he's fine, just proves the point that wiki is a useless waste of space...

[pinkmichk]

yeah i looked on the ferrai site and last i saw was he had the op and was doing ok
the first 48 hours after a head injury are the most critical remember when hammond had his crash and the first couple days there was so many different reports coming out and also remember that woman recently who had the sking accident and was up talking and stuff not long after then detiriated very very quickly cos there is pics of massa waving from the stretcher

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
yeah i looked on the ferrai site and last i saw was he had the op and was doing ok
the first 48 hours after a head injury are the most critical remember when hammond had his crash and the first couple days there was so many different reports coming out and also remember that woman recently who had the sking accident and was up talking and stuff not long after then detiriated very very quickly cos there is pics of massa waving from the stretcher

Yes Natasha Richardson I think her name was, married to Liam Neeson.

Hopefully we will get an accurate report like from Ferrari or a Family Spokesperson soon....

[pinkmichk]

i'm watching sportsline things must be worse than they letting on from those pictures they showing its very rare they bring out the white sheets for crashes of all the times i have been at a motorsport event i have only seen them once and in that instance it wasnt good news either they are only a bad sign in terms of crashes

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
i'm watching sportsline things must be worse than they letting on from those pictures they showing its very rare they bring out the white sheets for crashes of all the times i have been at a motorsport event i have only seen them once and in that instance it wasnt good news either they are only a bad sign in terms of crashes

From what I get looks like the Helmet will have to have a complete overhaul in the near future, think this will put a dampner on the race?

[pinkmichk]

the helmet is def going to need something doing to it there will be a downer mood on the race (what time is it on tomorrow?)

[Iceman]

Massa to miss Hungarian Grand Prix after undergoing surgery Ferrari’s Felipe Massa will not race in Sunday’s Hungarian Grand Prix following his high-speed qualifying crash at the Hungaroring, the team have confirmed. Massa was airlifted to AEK Hospital in Budapest, where he is in a stable condition.

“Felipe was conscious at the arrival at the hospital,” said a Ferrari statement, adding that Massa had suffered a cut on his forehead, concussion and a bone lesion of the skull. Massa underwent surgery to treat these conditions, the outcome of which was positive. He will now remain under observation in intensive care.

The Brazilian speared off the track and into the tyre wall at Turn 4 late in the Q2 session after a rear damper spring that had come loose from the Brawn car of Rubens Barrichello struck his helmet.

Medics were quickly in attendance and the start of Q3 was delayed as they extricated the Brazilian. After initial examinations at the medical centre, Massa, eighth fastest in Q2, was transferred to hospital for further treatment.

Ferrari are expected to release an update on Massa's condition on Sunday morning.

[Iceman]

Below is the provisional grid for the Hungarian Grand Prix with each car's weight.
Note - Ferrari’s Felipe Massa will not race following his qualifying accident.

1. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 637.5kg
2. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 655
3. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 652
4. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 650.5
5. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 654
6. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 655.5
7. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 651.5
8. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 664.5
9. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 658
10. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 671.5
11. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 671.3
12. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 689
13. Timo Glock, Toyota, 679.2
14. Nelson Piquet, Renault, 667.7
15. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 658
16. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India, 680.5
17. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 683.5
18. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 666
19. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 675.5

[Iceman]

Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by Iceman
Woah just watched Qualifying real bad crash for Felipe.

He's okay now but a piece of Barichello's car hit him in the head and knocked him unconscious then he has a real bad crash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWzWXgeT0FY

Just bumping in case people dont know what were talking about plus sky havent shown the crash now in a few hours...
bump bump bump

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
the helmet is def going to need something doing to it there will be a downer mood on the race (what time is it on tomorrow?)

Im not sure of start time I think it's 1 o clock. Oh and MotoGP starts straight after on BBC1 instead of BBC 3 for a change

[pinkmichk]

he had no chance of being allowed to race tomorrow so i dont get why they bother saying that :conf2:
motogps motorbikes isnt it?

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
he had no chance of being allowed to race tomorrow so i dont get why they bother saying that :conf2:
motogps motorbikes isnt it?

Yeah it is but the only reason they have it on BBC1 tomorrow and not BBC3 is because its in Donnington, they would never do it otherwise.....

Still no more updates yet......

[pinkmichk]

i dont watch motorbikes any car racing i like but i just cant see the appeal in motorbikes i was worried there how much bribing i would need to do to have near enough the whole day away from cbeebies:laugh:

i hope we have a bit more of a in detail rather than stating the obvious almost update in the morning

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
i dont watch motorbikes any car racing i like but i just cant see the appeal in motorbikes i was worried there how much bribing i would need to do to have near enough the whole day away from cbeebies:laugh:

i hope we have a bit more of a in detail rather than stating the obvious almost update in the morning


:joker::joker::joker:

Yes I think it will be a detailed one alright, looks like they aren't going to race the second car, Schumacher is biding his time muahahahahahahaha

[pinkmichk]

i just got this from the bbc
"During the course of his examination they established that he suffered a serious, life-threatening injuries including loss of consciousness and a fracture of the forehead on the left side and a fracture on the base of the skull."

its bad enough the forehead fracture cos thats the area that memory and so on can be affected as in the case of richard hammond but a base of skull fracture is pretty serious more so than the forehead one they will be trying to bring him round tomorrow out of the medically induced coma but it can take at least a week for the swelling to die down enough to have even any idea of what you are properly dealing with (again back to hammonds crash)

oh and i have just been reading and some people are saying that while it fell off barrichellos car it seemed to come from off the track i cant believe conspiracy theorists are out in force already while a man lays critical in hospital

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
i just got this from the bbc
"During the course of his examination they established that he suffered a serious, life-threatening injuries including loss of consciousness and a fracture of the forehead on the left side and a fracture on the base of the skull."

its bad enough the forehead fracture cos thats the area that memory and so on can be affected as in the case of richard hammond but a base of skull fracture is pretty serious more so than the forehead one they will be trying to bring him round tomorrow out of the medically induced coma but it can take at least a week for the swelling to die down enough to have even any idea of what you are properly dealing with (again back to hammonds crash)

oh and i have just been reading and some people are saying that while it fell off barrichellos car it seemed to come from off the track i cant believe conspiracy theorists are out in force already while a man lays critical in hospital

I think it's safe to say his season is over at least.....

So long as he's okay i suppose that's all he eally cares about now...

[pinkmichk]

season def over who knows if he will get back in a f1 car ever again apparently mika hakkanon had a crash much like this and had some brain injury but went on to win 2 championships after:puzzled:

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
season def over who knows if he will get back in a f1 car ever again apparently mika hakkanon had a crash much like this and had some brain injury but went on to win 2 championships after:puzzled:

Yeah they said he'd never walk again let alone race and he did like you said and won 2 championships........

still no updates:mad::mad::mad:

[Iceman]

Discuss the Hungarian Grand Prix here.

The Formula 1 thread keeps messing up when races are on. I asked if it will be merged afterwards and was told it was okay.

Start time 1 o clock

[30stone]

If im up, ill watch from the start
im guessing ill watch at abou 20 laps in lol..


And i have found Ayrton Senna the hero, tonight :cheer2:

[Iceman]

Originally posted by 30stone
If im up, ill watch from the start
im guessing ill watch at abou 20 laps in lol..


And i have found Ayrton Senna the hero, tonight :cheer2:

Ayrton Senna = Legend

Greatest of his Era:dance2:

Sadly missed:sad::sad:

[30stone]

Who has got pole position btw?

Webber?

I know button is 8th

and hamilton like 4th.

but because the times didnt come up at the end, i havent a clue..

[Iceman]

Alonso on pole followed by red bulls ten lewis i think

[30stone]

Alonso wont be racing though? as hes injured?

and whats red bulls ten?

[Iceman]

Felipe Massa’s condition was described as ‘stable’ on Sunday morning, with Ferrari confirming that there were no complications overnight following the Brazilian’s successful surgery for a skull fracture at Budapest’s AEK Hospital.

Massa sustained the fracture and concussion during his high-speed crash at the Hungaroring in Saturday’s qualifying session, in which he was struck on the head by a spring from the Brawn car of Rubens Barrichello.

After surgery he was put into an induced coma, a standard procedure following such an operation, and remained under observation in intensive care overnight.

"After undergoing an operation yesterday afternoon, Felipe Massa's condition remains stable and there were no further complications through the night,” said a Ferrari statement.

"He will be given another CT scan today, which will provide more precise information."

[Iceman]

Originally posted by 30stone
Alonso wont be racing though? as hes injured?

and whats red bulls ten?

No Alonso on Pole!!


I meant to write Red bulls, then!

Race starting in 15 minutes! Hamilton needs to be careful!

[psykosue]

come on mclaren there my team have been 4 ages

[pinkmichk]

ben its massa injured not alonso

i'm hoping hamilton doesnt mess it up first couple of corners he could have a good race if he keeps his head grounded

[Iceman]

Originally posted by psykosue
come on mclaren there my team have been 4 ages

Looking good today 2 cars starting in top 10, I think Vettel will do good today.

[pinkmichk]

did i hear right that he was awake for a bit although i still think we not getting all the details they have

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
ben its massa injured not alonso

i'm hoping hamilton doesnt mess it up first couple of corners he could have a good race if he keeps his head grounded

Wcome to a lovely new thread :hug:

I thought i'd be on my own here today:joker::joker:

Yeah Lewis needs to relax into the first corner otherwise it will be a repeat of the last race....

[pinkmichk]

whats everyones podium prediction for today
hamilton 1st
vettel 2nd
alonso 3rd

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by pinkmichk
ben its massa injured not alonso

i'm hoping hamilton doesnt mess it up first couple of corners he could have a good race if he keeps his head grounded

Wcome to a lovely new thread :hug:

I thought i'd be on my own here today:joker::joker:

Yeah Lewis needs to relax into the first corner otherwise it will be a repeat of the last race....

i'm not saying too much on him cos i spoke too soon last race and he blew it :rolleyes:

[Iceman]

Vettel
Webber
Kimi

I think Lewis will have a bad day......sorry.

[Iceman]

Lined up on the Grid.................

[ange7]

go go go!!

[pinkmichk]

i'm happy with that start:cheer:
brawn are struggling which i find highly amusing :hugesmile:

[ange7]

kimmi strikes again

[Iceman]

Hamilton and Kimi having a clsoe shave there, going to be a good race!

Poor Vettel:conf2:

[Iceman]

Kimi was a bit naughty.......

[Iceman]

Lewis is on form, this is great, aw poor button................:joker::joker::joker:

[pinkmichk]

:cheer2: up to 2nd place come on lewis
kimi was rather naughty there

[ange7]

hamilton deserved that... weber holding him back I think

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Iceman
aw poor button................:joker::joker::joker:

we all expected brawn to loose their cool its all good :laugh3:

[Iceman]

Vettel was a bit naughty too, brushing Kimi.....

all in all im pretty happy with this:colour:

[pinkmichk]

its still early in the race but its going to be a good race

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
its still early in the race but its going to be a good race

Hamilton should be leading in a few laps time......didn't think i'd be saying that this season :joker:

[Iceman]

Renault have a fuel pump problem........

[pinkmichk]

:cheer2: alonsos tyres dont look good and he is loosing time every lap plus he is running loads lighter

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Iceman
Renault have a fuel pump problem........

:laugh2:

[ange7]

they'll all be queuing up behind alonso soon

[pinkmichk]

kimi to be investigated after race but i think vettel should be as well it def wasnt all kimi

[Iceman]

Incident with car 4 (Kimi) will be investigated after the race.

Lewis Hamilton leading.

[Iceman]

Alonso go by bye :joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Iceman]

3 wheels :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::l augh2:

[pinkmichk]

alonso lost a wheel :joker: please no safety car

[ange7]

lol there it goes!!!

[Iceman]

Originally posted by ange7
lol there it goes!!!

That was wheely dangerous :pat::pat: i know it's so bad but i couldn't resist.....

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by ange7
lol there it goes!!!

That was wheely dangerous :pat::pat: i know it's so bad but i couldn't resist.....

*groans* that is shockingly bad :laugh3:

it did give me a heart in mouth moment following that freak incident last week and massas incident yesterday

[ange7]

I wasn't thinking about safety until it finally came off ( it was too funny) and then I thought... "dam hope those fences are tall enough"

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by ange7
lol there it goes!!!

That was wheely dangerous :pat::pat: i know it's so bad but i couldn't resist.....

*groans* that is shockingly bad :laugh3:

it did give me a heart in mouth moment following that freak incident last week and massas incident yesterday

Yeah, I said it to my dad that the wheel was going to come off, then it did.

Alonso retires.

[pinkmichk]

i wouldnt have been standing by that fence where that bloke was just watching heading my way

:laugh3: bye bye alonso :cheer2:

[ange7]

Hamilton will build a tidy gap now.

[Iceman]

Hamilton in soon.

Brawn falling apart....:spin2::spin2:

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Iceman
Brawn falling apart....:spin2::spin2:

music to my ears

that was a terrible pit stop :shocked:

[ange7]

hehe kimi!!!!!!!!!!

[Iceman]

Webber what a ****

[ange7]

Originally posted by Iceman
Webber what a ****
blame the lollypop dude

[Iceman]

Webber will be investigated, dangerous by the team to do that especially if they crashed all the fuel in the pits...I expect a heavy fine.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Iceman
Webber what a ****
blame the lollypop dude

Shakes fist a lollypop dude!!!:joker:

[ange7]

Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Iceman
Webber what a ****
blame the lollypop dude

Shakes fist a lollypop dude!!!:joker:
I'll never break for one again!! hehe

Hamilton is really hammering.

[pinkmichk]

button is going to struggle to even get in the points oh how times have changed

[Iceman]

So far 2 retirements yes?

Adrian Sutil - Force India
Fernando Alonso - Renault

[Iceman]

Vettel looks out..........

[pinkmichk]

2 so far although not looking good for vettel

[Iceman]

Just realised Kimi is in second :hello::hello:

The iceman playing it cool....:wink:

[Iceman]

Kimi faster than Hamilton :spin2::spin2::spin2::spin2:

[Iceman]

3 Retirements now

Adrian Sutil - Force India
Fernando Alonso - Renault
Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull

Button must still be happy that Vettel hasn't gotten any points again.

[pinkmichk]

button doesnt sound happy at all

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
button doesnt sound happy at all

Best quote ever " It's not time for a breathing session" :joker::joker:

[Iceman]

Do you think Hamilton is going to have a bad 3rd stint?

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by pinkmichk
button doesnt sound happy at all

Best quote ever " It's not time for a breathing session" :joker::joker:

:laugh2:

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Iceman
Do you think Hamilton is going to have a bad 3rd stint?

i dont know i think it depends on the team if they mess it up for him cos at the mo he seems to be racing very well and in the past when it has been like that its the team who has let him down

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Iceman
Do you think Hamilton is going to have a bad 3rd stint?

i dont know i think it depends on the team if they mess it up for him cos at the mo he seems to be racing very well and in the past when it has been like that its the team who has let him down

I think the tyres are going to be a major issue

[psykosue]

come on lewis u can do it 4 mclaren

[Iceman]

Just goes to show that Kimi still has the hunger to race, he's absolutely throwing the car around, few mistakes but it's great to see him back on form!

[pinkmichk]

its the best kimi has raced in a long time it wouldnt suprise me if he racing for his team mate
both mclaren cars are doing really well today

[Iceman]

****ing Ferrari

[Iceman]

Hamilton in

[pinkmichk]

that was a bad pit stop by ferrai

[ange7]

it's embarrassing when you miss first gear at the lights.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by ange7
it's embarrassing when you miss first gear at the lights.

I'll bring you back to last year:

It's embarassing when you crash into someone for not seeing a red light.:bigsmile:

[ange7]

lets's see how they go with hard tyres

[Iceman]

Originally posted by ange7
lets's see how they go with hard tyres

Should be interesting to see who handles them better.

[Iceman]

Webber may catch the Iceman

[Iceman]

Think Hamilon has it in the bag now.........

[30stone]

Come down to watch it and Hamiltons winning. :cheer2:

[Iceman]

Originally posted by 30stone
Come down to watch it and Hamiltons winning. :cheer2:

It's been a great race, Alonso's wheel came off, it was quite weird.


The Iceman and Lewis are back to the old ways, whereas Button is back to Nil Point:devil::devil:

[ange7]

Originally posted by Iceman
Webber may catch the Iceman
nah ... he'll shred those new super softs. Something weird going on with braun and redbull suspension ...this track is super bumpy maybe? balance wise McLaren and ferrari are smoooth as silk this week

[pinkmichk]

ben you have missed it its been a really really good race so far
alonso loosing his wheel :laugh: vettel had to retire cos of suspension problem from a hit from kimi

[Iceman]

Hamilton is just dominating, it's like we've walked into the 2008 championship........

[Iceman]

Massa will remian in coma for at least another 48hours, they woke him briefly this morning. Sounds good....

[pinkmichk]

hamilton is driving so well
that is good news about massa its better to leave him in a medically induced coma cos it means he wont be feeling the pain and he will be still so not playing the injuries up my dad was in a medically induced coma after his car accident for 3 weeks and the only head injury he had was a broken cheek but he had other injuries

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
hamilton is driving so well
that is good news about massa its better to leave him in a medically induced coma cos it means he wont be feeling the pain and he will be still so not playing the injuries up my dad was in a medically induced coma after his car accident for 3 weeks and the only head injury he had was a broken cheek but he had other injuries

Hamilton is amazing today hats off to him, think he needed this for his confidence, his podium will be emotional i think.

All indications point to Massa being okay but I still think there's more to this........

[Iceman]

Ben, can this thread not be merged until later?? I'll remind you about it.....

[pinkmichk]

i agree about massa the full story isnt coming out
brawn are really struggling to get the points

[Iceman]

I love how Flavio makes it so obvious that Piquet is gone by leaving before the race finishes..

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Iceman
I love how Flavio makes it so obvious that Piquet is gone by leaving before the race finishes..

:laugh: i agree and suprised he has lasted it this long considering his racing career at renault has been in doubt fo a long time

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Iceman
I love how Flavio makes it so obvious that Piquet is gone by leaving before the race finishes..

:laugh: i agree and suprised he has lasted it this long considering his racing career at renault has been in doubt fo a long time

Yeah Grosjean (can't spell his name) is a great driver I think he'd thrive in there.

Webber will only be 18.5 poins away from Button after this.......

[30stone]

Good for Button that Vettel is out.
And
That Webber is in 3rd.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Iceman
I love how Flavio makes it so obvious that Piquet is gone by leaving before the race finishes..

:laugh: i agree and suprised he has lasted it this long considering his racing career at renault has been in doubt fo a long time

Yeah Grosjean (can't spell his name) is a great driver I think he'd thrive in there.

Webber will only be 18.5 poins away from Button after this.......

is that who is replacing him then?

[Iceman]

Originally posted by 30stone
Good for Button that Vettel is out.
And
That Webber is in 3rd.

Not nescesarrily it's only less than 2 races now, you never know what will happen, button may retire in a few races :devil::devil::devil:

Kimi being made to push right until the end....

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Iceman
I love how Flavio makes it so obvious that Piquet is gone by leaving before the race finishes..

:laugh: i agree and suprised he has lasted it this long considering his racing career at renault has been in doubt fo a long time

Yeah Grosjean (can't spell his name) is a great driver I think he'd thrive in there.

Webber will only be 18.5 poins away from Button after this.......

is that who is replacing him then?

Yeah tht's the speculation......

[30stone]

YESSS

He Won:dance2::dance2:

[pinkmichk]

:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:: cheer:
yes that was a amazing drive nice one hamilton

[Iceman]

Ben can you leave this open for a while before merging it???


I think I'll do this for every race it seemed to work a lot better than the main thread, it didn't mess up at all for me......

[psykosue]

YE HA TOLD U ALL

[ange7]

lol great race by Hamilton....
This year has been great...so hard to pick a winner from race to race.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by psykosue
YE HA TOLD U ALL

Eh was it not a bit obvious after Alonso retired and Kimi dropped back, Vettel and Webber had problems....

[pinkmichk]

i like the thread just for the race it works well
while we have had the british national anthem this year its going to sound even sweeter today :colour:

[Iceman]

Valencia will be great, I'll make the thread for Qualifying for that race.....

[pinkmichk]

only bad thing about valencia is the month long wait

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
only bad thing about valencia is the month long wait

Yeah but maybe it's needed after this weeken to try and figure out everything with Massa you know like if he will race for the rest of the season or wether they need a temporary driver.

On that note Jaques Villeneuve said he wants to come back he may get the seast if Massa is unable....

[pinkmichk]

i really cant see him back in the car this season
that was a really good race not only hamilton back on form but kimi raced like he cared rather than his had enough attitude

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
i really cant see him back in the car this season
that was a really good race not only hamilton back on form but kimi raced like he cared rather than his had enough attitude

RETURN OF THE ICEMAN

[pinkmichk]

no ice cream breaks for him now :laugh:

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
no ice cream breaks for him now :laugh:

Let's hope not.:joker::joker:

This thread seemed more of a success than the normal F1 thread, glad I did it now...

Have to turn the interview off, Dublin are playing a Hurling match....

[pinkmichk]

this def works better cos the long main thread messes up so much it becomes a right nightmare to post in

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
this def works better cos the long main thread messes up so much it becomes a right nightmare to post in

Yes, I hope this doesn't get closed yet maybe wait until tonight in case people watch highlights etc....

[pinkmichk]

be good if it is left i plused your karma by the way :thumbs:

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
be good if it is left i plused your karma by the way :thumbs:

Cheers!! I'll return it when the limit thing is up!

Right im off to lie down and watch the bikes before The Mole 2 starts!

See ya later!:wavey::wavey:

[pinkmichk]

bikes:sleep::laugh2:
:wavey:

[30stone]

Problem with the other thread is you cant chance the title freely.

[Mark]

I just saw a pic of Massa's injury. Don't click if you are sqeeumish to some blood :thumbs:

http://imgur.com/0tpAAl.jpg

Suprised how much damage has been done to that helmet... looks like that little spring took a chunk straight right out of it. Scary :shocked:

[Iceman]

Originally posted by Mark
I just saw a pic of Massa's injury. Don't click if you are sqeeumish to some blood :thumbs:

http://imgur.com/0tpAAl.jpg

Suprised how much damage has been done to that helmet... looks like that little spring took a chunk straight right out of it. Scary :shocked:

Yeah it's the sheer force and speed, everything looks psoitive now though so hopefully he's out of danger....:sad:

[pinkmichk]

just heard on the news massas life is no longer at risk from his injuries but the spring hitting him has damaged his left eye which is putting his future racing career in jepody

[Iceman]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
just heard on the news massas life is no longer at risk from his injuries but the spring hitting him has damaged his left eye which is putting his future racing career in jepody

Yeah I think Ferrari have said he's out for the season...

Good that it's not life threatening........

[Iceman]

Can this be merged with the Formula 1 thread when someone gets a chance... Thank you!

[Gemmer-x]

Great win for Hamiliton yesterday:cheer:

[BigSister]

Im just glad Massas not in life thretening danger anymore

[Iceman]

Originally posted by BigSister
Im just glad Massas not in life thretening danger anymore

Me too, hopefully he may be able to race next year....

[Iceman]

Scumacher is back :colour::colour::colour::colour::colour:

[ange7]

lol schumacher back ... that will make it interesting. I wonder who he'll embarrass by beating in these next races.

[pinkmichk]

all i have to say on that is:bored:

[Captain.Remy]

I can't believe he's back. I admire him and the way he drives. But is it too late for a comeback ?

Anyway, Kimi Raikonnen remains my fave driver ever.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
But is it too late for a comeback ?


i think so and like i said back in the thread if anyone it should be one of the test drivers given thats their job

[sexyb4ck]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
But is it too late for a comeback ?


i think so and like i said back in the thread if anyone it should be one of the test drivers given thats their job


no if they give a young test driver the job massa an fans will think there trying to replace him.... he will be back.:devil:

[ange7]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
But is it too late for a comeback ?


i think so and like i said back in the thread if anyone it should be one of the test drivers given thats their job
agree with this but they need his "star power".... he'll bring some excitement to a currently dull Ferrari team who really haven't delivered this year. Anyway it's only temporary. Looking forward to it.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by sexyb4ck
Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
But is it too late for a comeback ?


i think so and like i said back in the thread if anyone it should be one of the test drivers given thats their job


no if they give a young test driver the job massa an fans will think there trying to replace him.... he will be back.:devil:

i cant see him being back given that he has some serious damage to his left eye even without the skull fractures which would have left him out for the rest of season at least that is bad enough given that they need really good eyesight

[Iceman]

Hmm Schumacher is back on a temporary basis, if Brawn asked him about next year I think he'd consider it...anyway the Maestro will teach them!!:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

[Iceman]

Originally posted by Iceman
Hmm Schumacher is back on a temporary basis, if Brawn asked him about next year I think he'd consider it...anyway the Maestro will teach them!!:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Shows how much I know

[James]

A few incidents there. Four drivers out already at Spa. Button, Grosjean, Hamilton and Alonso. Good start from Kimi.

[James]

Alguersuari rather than Alonso is out.

[30stone]

Kimi just took the Fisicella (sp) so easily, it looked like a game..

[James]

Ruebens pulling through the field after a bad start.

[30stone]

Yeah ani stall or somthing?

Started in 17th.

4 crashed.
and overtook 3 already.

[ange7]

dam ... missed it all again.
what happend to webber?

[ange7]

wow fisichella
will he be joining ferrari for the next race?

[Iceman]

Iceman Reigns supreme once again.......looks like Kimi is going to fight for his seat for next year...........

[Iceman]

Massa will not race again until 2010............poor Massa he really wanted to comeback at Brazil................he will definately be more prepared than anyone else for next season.........

[Iceman]

Giancarlo Fisichella will race for Ferrari at the remaining five rounds of 2009 after Force India agreed to release him from his contract on Thursday. Fisichella will replace Ferrari test driver Luca Badoer as stand-in for the injured Felipe Massa, starting at next weekend’s Italian Grand Prix. He will then serve as Ferrari's reserve driver in 2010.

Force India have yet to confirm who will take over from Fisichella alongside Adrian Sutil in the team’s number 21 car, though third driver Vitantonio Liuzzi is already being tipped to succeed his fellow Italian.

“We've chosen Fisichella because we can expect him to make a valuable contribution in this final part of the season,” said Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali. “Giancarlo has shown throughout his long career that he's fast and competitive and we are therefore proud to be able to run an Italian driver in our home race.”

Fisichella, who scored Force India’s first-ever pole position, points and podium at last weekend’s Belgian Grand Prix after finishing a close second to Ferrari’s Kimi Raikkonen, commented: “I am very grateful to (Force India boss) Vijay Mallya for allowing me this opportunity to drive for the Scuderia Ferrari team.

“It is true that it has always been an ambition to do this, and for Vijay to have allowed it to become a reality is very generous. I hope in my turn I have helped Force India grow up and be on the right path to achieve their own ambitions. They are now a very competitive team and I wish them all the very best.”

Badoer was drafted in by Ferrari after Massa fractured his skull in a qualifying accident at July’s Hungarian Grand Prix. However, the 38-year-old Italian struggled to get to grips with the F60 in a race environment, prompting the team to seek an alternative as they chase third place in the constructors’ championship.

“We wish to thank Luca Badoer for the team spirit he demonstrated in these circumstances,” added Domenicali. “It is a shame he was unable to show his true worth in these last two races, tackled under conditions which anyone would have found difficult.”

Mallya said he had made the decision to release his driver for the good of Fisichella and of Formula One racing, and not in exchange for any financial settlement. He also hinted that the 36-year-old’s Ferrari deal extends beyond 2009, suggesting a possible testing role for the Roman next season.

“For any Italian driver, a Ferrari race seat is a long-held dream and for Giancarlo it was no exception,” said Mallya. “No one should stand in the way of this. Furthermore the agreement will secure Giancarlo's long-term future with Ferrari and it would be incorrect to jeopardise this. A competitive Italian driver in a Ferrari for Monza is a positive story for Formula One, which can only help raise the sport's profile in these difficult times.”

Mallya went on to thank Fisichella for his contribution to the team over the past one and a half seasons, but insisted his departure would not have a major impact on Force India’s impressive recent form: “He has been an integral part of the team and we owe him a great deal for his input behind the scenes and performance out on track - we wish him all the best for the future.

“This sport is a team effort and removing one part, even a major one, will not significantly affect our performance.The competitiveness of the team seen in Belgium was a result of hard work in the factory and wind tunnel and we have further developments coming for the final races, so we are confident this momentum can be sustained.”

[Iceman]

Italian GP this weekend, come on the Iceman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

another win would secure a drive for next year!!!

Plus Alonso is in the **** at the moment Kimi needs to shine this weekend or he might be gone come 2010 :shocked::shocked::shocked:

[Iceman]

Lewis Hamilton has reportedly ended his relationship of nearly two years with Nicole Scherzinger.

According to the Sunday Mirror, the 24-year-old Formula 1 star told the Pussycat Dolls lead singer that there could be no reconciliation.

A source said: "Lewis was adamant the relationship had come to an end.

"He was feeling under pressure to take their union to the next level and he wasn't wanting to become engaged, get married or think about having children. He's young, they spend an awful lot of time apart and he's just not ready to leave his youth behind for a lifetime with Nicole."

The insider also said that Scherzinger, 31, is "mortified" at being dumped and no longer wants to present the F1 Rocks pop concert in Singapore in two weeks.

The source continued: "The last thing Nicole wanted to be doing is anything to do with Formula 1 now - so she immediately pulled out of F1 Rocks.

"Nicole and Lewis would have been the star draw but she doesn't want to be within 20 feet of him right now. She's very upset about being ditched and needs time out. She's cleared her schedule and will be in LA for the next two weeks."

Scherzinger previously said that she wanted children with Hamilton one day.


Pretty bad day for Hamilton

[Gemmer-x]

Great weekend for Braun, glad to see Jenson back on form :hugesmile:

[Iceman]

Great weekend for Braun, glad to see Jenson back on form :hugesmile:

Great for Brawn not soo good for Jenson......Rubens all the way for the title!!!!!!:colour:

[James]

I'd rather Rubens win the title.

Crashgate... Flav out at Renault http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8258987.stm

Does this mean he is admitting it was true, or was he forced out by the Renault boardroom?

[Iceman]

I'd rather Rubens win the title.

Crashgate... Flav out at Renault http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8258987.stm

Does this mean he is admitting it was true, or was he forced out by the Renault boardroom?


Nope they've accepted that Nelson's Affidavit was true and that he crashed on purpose.

I for one am happy that he's gone, he's been pulling stunts like this since the benneton days..


Oh and now there's a possibility that 28 cars will race next year, that would be amazing!!!!!!!!!!

[andyman]

Renault handed suspended F1 ban

Renault have been given a two-year suspended ban from Formula 1 for their role in fixing last year's singapore Grand Prix.

The team were called before governing body the FIA to answer charges they had asked driver Nelson Piquet Jr to crash to help team-mate Fernando Alonso win.

Former team boss Flavio Briatore has been banned from FIA sanctioned events for an unlimited period.

Ex-engineering director Pat Symonds has also been excluded for five years.

[Iceman]

Renault handed suspended F1 ban

Renault have been given a two-year suspended ban from Formula 1 for their role in fixing last year's singapore Grand Prix.

The team were called before governing body the FIA to answer charges they had asked driver Nelson Piquet Jr to crash to help team-mate Fernando Alonso win.

Former team boss Flavio Briatore has been banned from FIA sanctioned events for an unlimited period.

Ex-engineering director Pat Symonds has also been excluded for five years.

Finally Briatore put out of F1 for good hopefully.

Now all we need is Mr Nazi himself to leave.

Oh and Bernie can **** off too, get some proper people who know what there talking about to run the Sport.

Enter Michael Schumacher.

[andyman]

South Korea to make 2010 F1 debut

South Korea will host its first grand prix next year after being listed on a 19-race calendar published on Monday.

The event, which will be held in Yeongam in the south-west of the country, is scheduled for 17 October.

That makes it the third last race, with Abu Dhabi on 31 October and the climax in Brazil on 14 November.

The Canadian Grand Prix returns after a year's absence but is listed as provisional pending the completion of contract negotiations.

[andyman]

Piquet Jr 'sorry' for race-fixing

Sacked Renault driver Nelson Piquet Jr has apologised for his role in the Formula 1 race-fixing scandal.

Renault were given a two-year suspended ban for ordering Piquet Jr to crash so that team-mate Fernando Alonso could win the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix.

"I bitterly regret my actions to follow the orders i was given," he said. "I wish every day that i had not done it.
"I am so sorry to those who work in Formula 1, the fans and the governing body (the FIA)."

[Iceman]

19 Grand Prix next year, back to the best...

[James]

Qualifying in Singapore on now.

[James]

Button out in Q2 in 12th.

[James]

Hamilton on pole from Vettel. Barrichello crashed out there.

[Iceman]

Iceman was having an off day....

because the track was so cold he thought he was driving around his mansion.....






Not bad for Barrichello considering the penalty, im curious as to when they will do the car though????

[pinkmichk]

hello my fellow F1 fans i'm kinda back i know i'm late but the singapore race was cracking superb win for lewis looking forward to japan his week (even though i need to set a second tv up cos its the touring car finals as well)

[pinkmichk]

hello my fellow F1 fans i'm kinda back i know i'm late but the singapore race was cracking superb win for lewis looking forward to japan his week (even though i need to set a second tv up cos its the touring car finals as well)

[James]

Watching the free practise now. Glock is unwell and has been replaced by GP2 driver Kobayashi.

[pinkmichk]

i just read on twitter that Hamilton has said its the best track even though he drove round it in rain

[Iceman]

The Iceman is going HOME....

[pinkmichk]

i cant keep up with all the driver changes this season everytime i look at stuff there something else come up about who may or may not be driving and where has anyone got a list of who going where etc

[Iceman]

So far:

Mclaren
Lewis / Kimi(rumour)

Ferrari
Massa / Alonso

Renault
Grosjean / Kovailnen

Red Bull
Webber / Vettel

Brawn
Button / Unknown

All the rest are pretty much the same or unknown...

[pinkmichk]

thank you so mclaren and ferrari going on that will be having equal drivers instead of main and a team mate like now cos that is some pretty big names for those 2 and i cant see say kimi becoming a 2nd driver rather than the main

[Iceman]

Mass may quit F1 because of what happened last year..

this just proved my point that Felipe Massa is last years world champion.

He would have won had it not been for crashgate.....

[James]

It doesn't work like though... cause Lewis aimed to finish in certain positions in races after Singapore. If he needed more points he could have used a different strategy. For instance, in the last race he only needed to finish 5th and did so.

[James]

Webber not taking part in Q. Car needs repaired. Bit of an off there for Buemi.

[pinkmichk]

Penalties handed to Brawn duo and others
Saturday 3rd October 2009

Four drivers, including Championship leader Jenson Button, have been slapped with penalties for failing to slow down under yellow flags in Saturday's Japanese qualifying.


Button, together with his Brawn GP team-mate Rubens Barrichello, Renault's Fernando Alonso, Force India's Adrian Sutil and Toro Rosso's Sebastien Buemi were called before the Suzuka stewards in the wake of qualifying.


The stewards ruled that Button, Barrichello, Alonso and Sutil had all failed to slow down under waved yellow flags in the wake of Buemi's Q2 accident.


The four drivers were all handed five-grid slot penalties, which means the two Championship rivals, Barrichello and Button, will now start P9 and P11 respectively.


Brawn GP boss Ross Brawn conceded his drivers did not slow down. "No, they swerved to avoid the problem. But they didn't lift off, no," he said.


Alonso, who earlier defended himself saying he did slow down, will start 17th on the grid while Sutil will drop from fourth to eighth.


Meanwhile, Buemi was reprimanded by the stewards for driving back to the pits with a damaged car, which he did in the wake of his accident. He too was handed a five-grid slot penalty.


Other penalties this weekend include Tonio Liuzzi's five-grid slot penalty for changing his gearbox.


Revised Grid
01. Vettel Red Bull-Renault
02. Trulli Toyota
03. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
04. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber
05. Raikkonen Ferrari
06. Rosberg Williams-Toyota
07. Kubica BMW-Sauber
08. Sutil Force India-Mercedes *
09. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes *
10. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari
11. Button Brawn-Mercedes *
12. Fisichella Ferrari
13. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes **
14. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari *
15. Nakajima Williams-Toyota
16. Grosjean Renault
17. Alonso Renault *
18. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes
19. Glock Toyota ***
20. Webber Red Bull-Renault ***


* Five-place grid penalty
** Five-place grid penalty for changing gearbox
*** Will use new chassis so will start from the pit lane

[Iceman]

The Iceman remains cool under pressure Kers tomorrow will be good.

[Iceman]

Even though he’s known for some time that 2009 will be his last season with Ferrari, Kimi Raikkonen was unexpectedly emotional when speaking about it in the Suzuka paddock on Thursday, giving one of the longest interviews of his entire career. However, the Finn, who will be replaced by Fernando Alonso next year, remained pretty tight-lipped about his future plans, refusing to reveal whether rumours of a return to McLaren are accurate…

Q: Kimi, you had good times at Ferrari, won a championship and now it’s all over. How do you feel about that?
Kimi Raikkonen: Well, let’s face it, in the end I have achieved what I wanted - I’ve won a championship. I’ve worked with them for the last three years and now things have changed. It’s not the first time that it has happened in Formula One and surely won’t be the last time. That’s all I want to say.

Q: But how did Ferrari convince you to end the relationship. You had a contract for 2010 with them?
KR: There are many reasons. You should ask them. But in Formula One, even if you have a contract, there is always a lot of money involved, so there can always be different options in life. That’s obviously what happened. Sure, there is not only one reason for what has happened, that’s why everybody decided to end up in this position.

Q: You had a contract for next year and have done your best over the last three year, winning one championship. Do you feel you’ve been unfairly treated?
KR: I’m still happy with what I’ve done and I think I will have a good future. Sure, if you sign a contract you finish it, but obviously it didn’t work out. Overall I’m okay with it.

Q: How long ago did you know you won’t race for Ferrari in 2010?
KR: For quite a while now.

Q: Are you okay with the solution you’ve found?
KR: Yeah.

Q: There are a number of options open to you for the future. One of them is returning to McLaren. Could you imagine going back? Would you enjoy it there again?
KR: I have nothing bad to say about them as we always had a good relationship, and of course it’s a chance. But honestly I haven’t thought too much about these things, but in time I will make my decision. I will let you know!

Q: Are you a bit frustrated with Ferrari this season?
KR: I don't think anyone expected Ferrari to have this kind of season, which turned out to be so difficult. But this can happen in Formula One sometimes, when you don't deliver a car capable of getting us to the front, but this is just one year and we will wait and see what happens next.

Q: Renault said that they will make their announcement next week. Could they be an option and have you talked to them?
KR: No, not with them.

Q: If you could do it all over again would you do anything differently?
KR: Would I have made different decisions? No. I am happy about what I have done, but sure if you look back in hindsight you probably would have done different things. But that’s easy to say afterwards. Regarding my contracts, no I would not have changed anything.

Q: What did you give to Ferrari and what did Ferrari give to you in the last three years?
KR: I’ve achieved with them what I always wanted to achieve. We had good times, of course, but we also had difficult times. But that’s part of the whole business. Sometimes you have good moments and sometimes you just have to grit your teeth and carry on. Overall I have happy memories of my time with the team. I have won a championship and the team has won two. That is something that nobody can take away.

Q: You have seemed to have had ups and downs. Did you always give 100 percent or have there been moments where you lacked motivation?
KR: No, there has never been a lack of motivation. All the stories came from the media - basically you guys. I never had any motivation problems. Sure if you have good results life tends to be easier, but then these things happen.

Q: Many times before you’ve said that Ferrari will be your last team. Have you changed your mind or were you forced to change your mind?
KR: Like I said, there have been many options around and what happened now is just one of them. I think in the end I am happy with what happened, otherwise I would not have done the deal with them. For the moment I have not decided if I want to continue racing, or what I want to do. Before I had a contract for 2010, now not anymore. That changes things. Maybe I’ll race, maybe I won’t.

Q: What are the chances of you going rallying now?
KR: There is chance, but there is also chance of racing in Formula One. For sure I will decide before the start of the next season what I am going to do.

Q: Did you ask Ferrari why Fernando and not me, or why Felipe Massa and not me? Did you get a satisfying answer?
KR: I know more or less the reasons and it has nothing to do with my racing or anything I’m doing in the team. It’s just purely another reason.

Q: How much has your departure to do with the arrival of Santander?
KR: For that you’ll have to ask the team.

Q: Wherever destiny takes you, do you hope to fight with Fernando for another world title?
KR: If I decide to go with a team next year, I am surely not going with any of the small teams, as that will never give me the chance to fight for the championship. And if I’m not able to fight for the championship, there will be no reason for me to be in Formula One.

[Iceman]

That has to be the longest interview ive ever heard him give.....

Kimi is being pushed out because of Alonso coming in.
If Massa hadnt of had that accident then he'd be going but they have to stick with him or they'll look bad.

As for Santander coming into Ferrari, its just ridicoulous.......

The Iceman will triumph next year be it in F1 or Rallying!:devil:

[pinkmichk]

:shocked: for a man of so few words that is one hefty interview
i didnt really see much of this mornings race feeling a touch delicate after 2 nights drinking its on later isnt it?

[pinkmichk]

just watching the race still not managed to see it all cos was watching touring car at same time
can i just say which ever commentator just said "toyota out in the pits must be for trulli cos glock not racing" way to go on the captain bloody obvious comment:pat::laugh2:

[Iceman]

Very boring race today which was good because we gonna have a great race at Brazil!!

Button will struggle immensely...

Barichello will get 2nd I think and Vettel will win again..

[pinkmichk]

well i'm happy cos lewis was on the podium even though 3rd, webbers car was just a whole bunch of fail :joker: i'm glad the title hasnt been decided today means its still all to play for

[Iceman]

Hopefully it rains in Brazil, vettel could win for definate them and I think Button would struggle...

[pinkmichk]

glock is not gonna be racing in brazil due to a cracked vertibrate and i just read this about massa from james allen on twitter he wont be racing
Massa will not race again in 2009


Ferrari has put out a statement confirming that Felipe Massa will drive an F2007 Ferrari tomorrow at its Fiorano test track, but has stressed that together with the team, Massa has come to the conclusion that his best interests would be served by not trying to race again this season at the final event in Abu Dhabi.


I have to say that this looks like a smart move. Prior to flying over to Europe a week ago, Massa was reported by Brazilian colleagues to be determined to drive in the final race. But having undergone some training and two days of medical examinations in Paris, it looks like he has accepted that it would be better to come back next season 100% ready, rather than risk his reputation by coming back too early. A poor performance in Abu Dhabi could have raised questions and added unwanted pressures.

“Tomorrow’s event is significant but in no way does it signify a return to competition in the near future,” said the statement. “In fact, based on a previously taken decision and after an informal medical examination in Paris a few days ago, which proved rather positive, but not enough to endorse a return to competition in the next two months, Felipe and the team want to proceed gradually and without any hurry to recover as well as possible from the effects of the accident that happened in Budapest back on 25th July.

“Therefore talk of a proper return to Formula 1 can wait until the start of the 2010 season and only at that time will the medical checks be carried out, as required by the FIA in order to allow someone who has been injured to return to racing.”

[Iceman]

Shame really but hopefully its in his best interest..

[pinkmichk]

its only for the best really no point in him racing and then putting himself back so he doesnt race next yr either

[Iceman]

Oh I must say I do prefer your new sig a whole lot more!!! :)

I cant wait for Brazil.....going to be a great race....

[pinkmichk]

Oh I must say I do prefer your new sig a whole lot more!!! :)

I cant wait for Brazil.....going to be a great race....

thank you i went for a few of my fav things lol
i'm out drinking sat night what is it with people planning nights out before a race day will be 3rd race in a row i shall be watching with a hangover

[Iceman]

I think its on mid afternoon.....maybe 4 or 5? I thought it was usually a late race?

[pinkmichk]

lol it takes me 3 days to recover cos i'm a lightweight

[Iceman]

Oh lol....well I think it's a late start anyway so should be good....I'm praying for rain...

[Iceman]

The title could be claimed in less than a week....

I pray that Button crashes out....

[pinkmichk]

i really dont want button to take it while lewis has no chance anyone but button and i'll be happy

[Iceman]

Support Rubens, I think he well and truely deserves it...

[pinkmichk]

yeah would like him to take it actually he has drove really well this season

[Iceman]

More consistent than button....

[Jen]

Am I on my own in wanting Button to clinch it.
I'm not a fan of Rubens, Jensen comes across as a nicer person and will be a better driver.. he has far more potential than Rubens... for the obvious reason.

[King Gizzard]

BUTTON FTW!
Hamilton is a cock

I dont like watching it, as its boring, but i keep up with it

Hamilton is just..a dick

[Iceman]

Reignign GP2 asia champion is taking Glocks place..

weather forecast is mixed for the whole wkend! come on Rubens!

[pinkmichk]

being nice doesnt mean a good driver though considering button and barichello have been driving the same car this yr and technically button is number 1 driver for the team he has not been consistant at all but barichello has drove really well even when the car has been a whole bunch of fail
nate each to their own be boring if we all liked the same

[andyman]

Its on the telleh!

[Iceman]

its still on the telleh!!!!! BBC2 now....

[Wildcat!]

What time is the actual qualifying?

[Iceman]

its on now, rain has destroyed the sessions, too dangerous to drive, too much aquaplaining.....

maybe in the next 10 minutes qualifying 2 will resume, dont hold your breathe though.

[Wildcat!]

OK, thanks!

[James]

If they cancel these two qualifying sessions I think they should run them tomorrow morning.

[Wildcat!]

Is LEwis alreadyout?

[James]

Yeah, qualified in 18th when it was really wet.

[Wildcat!]

Yeah, qualified in 18th when it was really wet.

Oh lord!!

[Wildcat!]

this is looking good. Button already out. Yes

[Chels]

LMFAO Jarno Truilli went flying :L

[Gemmer-x]

yayaayyayay Button wins =D

[andyman]

2008 - GB win
2009 - GB win
2010 - GB win + England win the World Cup.

[Iceman]

Ha andyman your so deluded it aint even funny!!!!

Lewis has the strongest chance at the moment, but Alonso in a ferrari, that has the makings of a few world championships....

Also depends where kimi goes....

[andyman]

Hamilton will win! I don't joke at things like this..

Hamilton will up his game with attacking driving that will shock the world, even you Iceman.

Brawn had the edge this season due to the car but not next season..
Hamilton will win it in Japan or Brazil :thumbs:

[Iceman]

I do think that if Kimi goes to Mclaren then we're all in for a shock, him and Lewis impressed me the most this season out of anyone.

They both had **** cars and both somehow managed to fight for wins and podiums.....they have been so consistent toward the latter half of the season....

[30stone]

Hamilton will be amazing, for me, he is just pure talent.

His overtake near the end of this race. okayhe touched him, but it was so good.