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This thread could go round in circles for ever...
I personally have always just thought of this whenever I have seen/heard Amy...
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However, regardless of whether people appreciated her talent or agreed with her lifestyle, she is still somebody's baby whose life has ended far too soon. I hope her loved ones find peace and have lots of good, happy memories of her. :)
Marsh.
26-07-2011, 07:50 PM
Jade isn't even in the same league as Amy at anything :nono:
Yeah, Jade Goody was so unlucky not to be regarded as high up as alcoholics and smackheads.
Doogle
26-07-2011, 07:51 PM
This thread could go round in circles for ever...
I personally have always just thought of this whenever I have seen/heard Amy...
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However, regardless of whether people appreciated her talent or agreed with her lifestyle, she is still somebody's baby whose life has ended far too soon. I hope her loved ones find peace and have lots of good, happy memories of her. :)
:lovedup:
One of my favourite episodes
Zippy
26-07-2011, 07:52 PM
On this issue, I 100% agree with you Zippy.
I find it amazing that people think that her priorities were still about being in mags and tabloids when she was facing imminent death. She had two very young sons ffs. Im sure she was far more concerned with how they would deal with it. It must have been heartbreaking for her knowing they had to grow up without her.
Making money for their security was pretty much all she could do for them at that stage. Thats why she worked her ass off even when she was sick and looked awful.
InOne
26-07-2011, 07:54 PM
Yeah, Jade Goody was so unlucky not to be regarded as high up as alcoholics and smackheads.
They just lead totally different careers, and Amy's just happened to be a more respected one.
joeysteele
26-07-2011, 07:54 PM
I find it amazing that people think that her priorities were still about being in mags and tabloids when she was facing imminent death. She had two very young sons ffs. Im sure she was far more concerned with how they would deal with it. It must have been heartbreaking for her knowing they had to grow up without her.
Making money for their security was pretty much all she could do for them at that stage. Thats why she worked her ass off even when she was sick and looked awful.
Absolutely right. Often at times suffering really great pain too as she did so.
What a ridiculous point. Because the effect isnt lasting forever that somehow negates all the good it did for a good period of time?
The original claim was :
Jade's influence still lives on. Now because of her many girls across the counrty are now getting compulsory (Though there is an option to opt out) cervical cancer jabs saving many lives in the process.
With which you agreed :
good point, Harry.
If the effect was ephemeral, then, in the great scheme of things, it was no effect at all ..... just another example of hysteria generated by the tabloids ..... :idc:
Her primary motivation was leaving her sons decent money and security. Having watched somebody close suffer from cancer and face an imminent death I can assure you it sets their priorities straight in life.
Fame at that point of Jades life really wouldn't have meant much. Especially with the way she looked in her latter stages.
Her sons had suffered years of physical drama and emotional upheaval with Goody and didn't need money - their father already had enough money to support them and the sense to keep them out of the spotlight - Goody was just greedy for money, as she had been all her life - she didn't even leave a bequest to a charity, such as the Macmillan nurses who looked after her, in her will - she just wanted her boys to have flash cars ..... :rolleyes:
Zippy
26-07-2011, 10:22 PM
Her sons had suffered years of physical drama and emotional upheaval with Goody and didn't need money - their father already had enough money to support them and the sense to keep them out of the spotlight - Goody was just greedy for money, as she had been all her life - she didn't even leave a bequest to a charity, such as the Macmillan nurses who looked after her, in her will - she just wanted her boys to have flash cars ..... :rolleyes:
utter BS as per usual
what the hell do you know about them suffering physical drama and upheaval? You've just made that up for effect.
Yeah she was greedy for money to spend from her grave! You obviously have no clue about a Mothers love and clearly can't even be bothered to even try and imagine it.
All she cared about in her dying days was doing evrything she could for them to compensate for them no longer having a mother. Which was to give them financially security. Even Jeff sings her praises as a Mother and backs up what I say.
You are just a hater with an agenda.
And why should she give to charities when she has two very young sons to provide for? They were her priority.
utter BS as per usual
what the hell do you know about them suffering physical drama and upheaval? You've just made that up for effect.
Yeah she was greedy for money to spend from her grave! You obviously have no clue about a Mothers love and clearly can't even be bothered to even try and imagine it.
All she cared about in her dying days was doing evrything she could for them to compensate for them no longer having a mother. Which was to give them financially security. Even Jeff sings her praises as a Mother and backs up what I say.
You are just a hater with an agenda.
And why should she give to charities when she has two very young sons to provide for? They were her priority.
Oh dear, you're getting personal again ..... :nono:
:bored:
Zippy
26-07-2011, 10:32 PM
Oh dear, you're getting personal again ..... :nono:
:bored:
oh diddums
you always cry victim that when you have no comeback.
I suggest you don't slander dead people who can't reply.
Zippy
26-07-2011, 10:42 PM
Anyway, shut up about Jade. This threads about Amy.
Pyramid*
27-07-2011, 01:19 AM
good point, Harry. As such, she's probably the most useful BB HM of all.
and Omah you still mention Jade all the time so ironic that you imply she's forgotten about. :whistle:
If Jade's death encouraged just one person to get checked and have their life saved then she did more good than any other HM.
youre really stretching
What a ridiculous point. Because the effect isnt lasting forever that somehow negates all the good it did for a good period of time?
give me strength
Her primary motivation was leaving her sons decent money and security. Having watched somebody close suffer from cancer and face an imminent death I can assure you it sets their priorities straight in life.
Fame at that point of Jades life really wouldn't have meant much. Especially with the way she looked in her latter stages.
I find it amazing that people think that her priorities were still about being in mags and tabloids when she was facing imminent death. She had two very young sons ffs. Im sure she was far more concerned with how they would deal with it. It must have been heartbreaking for her knowing they had to grow up without her.
Making money for their security was pretty much all she could do for them at that stage. Thats why she worked her ass off even when she was sick and looked awful.
utter BS as per usual
what the hell do you know about them suffering physical drama and upheaval? You've just made that up for effect.
Yeah she was greedy for money to spend from her grave! You obviously have no clue about a Mothers love and clearly can't even be bothered to even try and imagine it.
All she cared about in her dying days was doing evrything she could for them to compensate for them no longer having a mother. Which was to give them financially security. Even Jeff sings her praises as a Mother and backs up what I say.
You are just a hater with an agenda.
And why should she give to charities when she has two very young sons to provide for? They were her priority.
oh diddums
you always cry victim that when you have no comeback.
I suggest you don't slander dead people who can't reply.
Anyway, shut up about Jade. This threads about Amy.
Are you looking in a mirror and talking to yourself when you wrote that last post Zippy.......seems you've done a fair bit of commenting about Jade in the thread when it suited you.
Old Blake refused special compassionate leave from jail to attend funeral yesterday. Not that he'd been invited anyway.
Mitch claiming that his daughter had been clean of drugs for 3 years.....
Are you looking in a mirror and talking to yourself when you wrote that last post Zippy.......seems you've done a fair bit of commenting about Jade in the thread when it suited you.
Ah, the biter bit ..... :joker:
Funnily enough, that's what Goody used to do - accuse her "victims" of her own "crimes", e.g. "I hate liars", "I hate bullies", etc ..... :eek:
Pyramid*
27-07-2011, 01:45 AM
Ah, the biter bit ..... :joker:
Funnily enough, that's what Goody used to do - accuse her "victims" of her own "crimes", e.g. "I hate liars", "I hate bullies", etc ..... :eek:
The word 'Book' comes to mind for some bizarre reason! :hugesmile:
Talking of such things; that'll be the next thing out probably - detailing her rise and fall.
Benjamin
27-07-2011, 01:50 AM
I was puzzled what the meant at first. Just got it. :laugh:
I like Winehouse and felt she was a musical legend, one that achieved great things and could have achieved so much more. It's a shame she got caught in the downfall of drugs.
Pyramid*
27-07-2011, 01:54 AM
I was puzzled what the meant at first. Just got it. :laugh:
I like Winehouse and felt she was a musical legend, one that achieved great things and could have achieved so much more. It's a shame she got caught in the downfall of drugs.
No one knows that for sure. Perhaps what she had achieved was as good as she was going to get - perhaps that was her peak - no one knows - and certainly won't now.
According to reports; her father claims she had been drug free for 3 years. She didn't achieve much in the past 3 years, if there was any truth in Mitch's comment.
Benjamin
27-07-2011, 02:04 AM
Why do you have to try and debate everything? It's getting rather tedious now to be honest.
I did state that the opinion I had was how I felt. I believe she could have gone on to achieve greater things.
Pyramid*
27-07-2011, 06:48 AM
Why do you have to try and debate everything? It's getting rather tedious now to be honest.
I did state that the opinion I had was how I felt. I believe she could have gone on to achieve greater things.
Because firstly, that is how subject such as this one on a forum work and my comment was how I felt (or is it only every one else that's allowed to do that on here, and not me).
Secondly - you will see I made a 2nd small paragraph which was opening up debate - regarding whether she has been drug free for x amount of years or not, as her father has been quoted as stating. You could have made comment on that rather than getting personal.
Would you prefer I did what Shaun did earlier? Put up a pesonally sarcastic comment to another member, which apart from being completely off topic, you thought was worthy of you replying to with a big grin - before that comment was removed?
Livia
27-07-2011, 09:57 AM
Yeah, Jade Goody was so unlucky not to be regarded as high up as alcoholics and smackheads.
That is such a childish comment, especially remembering this is a thread about Amy Winehouse. You don't have to rubbish one dead person in order to big-up another.
Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2011, 10:39 AM
gaga talks utter bollocks about winehouse below
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2019163/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Lady-Gaga-pleads-fans-dont-kill-superstar.html
Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2011, 10:41 AM
the dad seems to be talking a lot of bollocks
gaga talks utter bollocks about winehouse below
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2019163/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Lady-Gaga-pleads-fans-dont-kill-superstar.html
The kooky American, who admitted she didn’t know the British soul icon, made her appeal while talking about the Back To Black singer.
The 25-year-old Judas singer said: ‘It's a lesson to the world. Don't kill the superstar, take care of her soul.’
Gaga also said she loved Amy ‘so much’ and revealed that she used to get mistaken for the soul singer before she became famous.
Speaking about Amy, who died on Saturday, Lady Gaga said: ‘I was nobody when she was first coming out. I would be on the street and people would go "Amy"'.
Jeez, that's typical of the current wave of opportunistic "grieving" ..... :rolleyes:
Benjamin
27-07-2011, 10:53 AM
Because firstly, that is how subject such as this one on a forum work and my comment was how I felt (or is it only every one else that's allowed to do that on here, and not me).
Secondly - you will see I made a 2nd small paragraph which was opening up debate - regarding whether she has been drug free for x amount of years or not, as her father has been quoted as stating. You could have made comment on that rather than getting personal.
Would you prefer I did what Shaun did earlier? Put up a pesonally sarcastic comment to another member, which apart from being completely off topic, you thought was worthy of you replying to with a big grin - before that comment was removed?
I would prefer to be able to have an opinion for once without having to have to contend with your opinion against it. I understand this is a forum, free speech and all, but doesn't mean you have to respond to everything all the time in a manner which sometimes is very baiting. As for the comment Shaun made, I'm not gonna lie, I did find it funny. Am I not allowed a sense of humour now?
Back on topic, I still believe that Winehouse could have gone on to greater things had she cleared herself up.
Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2011, 10:57 AM
but it's clearly not just me.
I think you'll find that amongst music critics, fellow artists and the music world generally Amy was regarded as one of the biggest talents in music.
but yeah, you know better...
:sleep:
some music critics
some fellow artists
"and the world in general" - oh. my. god. what are you on about?
look beyond your age, tastes and front door
some music critics
some fellow artists
"and the world in general" - oh. my. god. what are you on about?
look beyond your age, tastes and front door
:thumbs:
Callum
27-07-2011, 12:36 PM
Aisleyne Horgan Wallace was on This Morning earlier talking about her "friend" Amy. Such a friend that she wasn't even invited to the funeral.
Livia
27-07-2011, 01:23 PM
Aisleyne Horgan Wallace was on This Morning earlier talking about her "friend" Amy. Such a friend that she wasn't even invited to the funeral.
I have never been "invited" to a funeral. I have gone along to pay my respects, but I have never been formally invited. I don't think not attending someone's funeral - especially as the service was Jewish and Aisleyne, I'm fairly sure, isn't - doesn't mean they weren't friends. People pay their respects in different ways, and it's a bit strange to judge someone so harshly when you have no idea of the facts.
Jords
27-07-2011, 01:25 PM
Livia is right.
Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2011, 01:29 PM
I have never been "invited" to a funeral. I have gone along to pay my respects, but I have never been formally invited. I don't think not attending someone's funeral - especially as the service was Jewish and Aisleyne, I'm fairly sure, isn't - doesn't mean they weren't friends. People pay their respects in different ways, and it's a bit strange to judge someone so harshly when you have no idea of the facts.
you are right but that lassie Aisleyne is a bit of a numpty
Jordan.
27-07-2011, 01:31 PM
According to reports; her father claims she had been drug free for 3 years. She didn't achieve much in the past 3 years, if there was any truth in Mitch's comment.
Just because she came off the drugs doesn't automatically make her mentally stable enough to throw herself back in front of millions of people and travelling all over the world promoting a new album. She obviously had other personal struggles not just drugs and wouldn't have phsically been able to cope.
This thread is about a person's death & some of you are starting arguments with fans about her not being that good, why?
Callum
27-07-2011, 01:34 PM
I have never been "invited" to a funeral. I have gone along to pay my respects, but I have never been formally invited. I don't think not attending someone's funeral - especially as the service was Jewish and Aisleyne, I'm fairly sure, isn't - doesn't mean they weren't friends. People pay their respects in different ways, and it's a bit strange to judge someone so harshly when you have no idea of the facts.
Aisleyne is making out like she's been best friends with Amy for years though, if she had been such a best friend then surely she would be at the funeral. It just seems to me like she wants to make a bit of money by going on national TV to talk about Amy.
Crimson Dynamo
27-07-2011, 01:36 PM
This thread is about a person's death & some of you are starting arguments with fans about her not being that good, why?
mainly because the girl died on Saturday and life goes on
Zippy
27-07-2011, 05:21 PM
some music critics
some fellow artists
"and the world in general" - oh. my. god. what are you on about?
I said the music world in general so get your quotes straight.
what the hell are you on about? You just seem determined to piss on her reputation and status for some bitter and pointless reason. It's just subjective toss.
I have never been "invited" to a funeral.
I have frequently been invited to funerals and would NEVER attend any to which I have NOT been invited ..... :nono:
Police were called to Amy Winehouse's Camden home to break up crowds last night, after fans filled the streets drinking and dancing hours after the young singer's funeral.
Their tribute to the troubled star ended in police ordering the crowd to move on after neighbours complained of drunken behaviour.
The raucous scenes came just hours after the 27-year-old singer's funeral in Edgwarebury Cemetery in North London.
Fans staged a boozy vigil in tribute to the troubled Amy Winehouse
But their version of a wake for the petite singer led to chaotic scenes which lasted late into the night.
Some slumped on the street in Camden Square while others dumped empty bottles on the shrine to the Back to Black singer which has grown since her death on Saturday afternoon.
The pavement lining her home has been filled with flowers, candles, pictures of her, heartfelt messages from devastated fans.
Bottles of alcohol have appeared too, which seem a bizarre gesture given the singer's long battle with drink and drugs.
But last night the street was lined with empty cans and bottles as people ditched them while they wandered around the streets, singing and playing loud music.
Eventually neighbours became so frustrated they rang police, who arrived to move the raucous crowds on and arrested one man.
The Camden borough is completely covered by a controlled drinking zone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019281/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Police-called-shrine-drunken-fans-chaos.html#ixzz1TKckUT00
Oh dear ..... :eek:
Pyramid*
27-07-2011, 06:51 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019281/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Police-called-shrine-drunken-fans-chaos.html#ixzz1TKckUT00
Oh dear ..... :eek:
Quite surreal. The woman has many years battle with many things: drugs and especialy the booze the latter being a incredibly large part of her 'demons' - and this is how they respectfully celebrate her life: by having a major piss up with one of the very things that have helped destroy her.
Unbelievable.
CharlieO
27-07-2011, 06:54 PM
I like Aisleyne but cashing in on a friends death clearly. :nono:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2019322/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Aisleyne-Horgan-Wallace-suffered-vile-messages-claims.html
I like Aisleyne but cashing in on a friends death clearly. :nono:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2019322/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Aisleyne-Horgan-Wallace-suffered-vile-messages-claims.html
Kelly Osborne, a close friend of Amy's who went to yesterday's funeral, alluded to Aisleyne's appearance on Twitter, said some 'friends' are cashing in following the sudden death.
She said: 'Any 'friend' of amy's talking 2 the press/tv are not her actual friend's. her real friends have more dignity then to get $ 2 talk about her!'
Good for Kelly ..... :thumbs:
Callum
27-07-2011, 06:59 PM
I've always loved Aisleyne but lost a lot of respect for her when I saw her on This Morning earlier.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2019322/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Aisleyne-Horgan-Wallace-suffered-vile-messages-claims.html#ixzz1TKlaSpNU
Aisleyne told ITV's This Morning: 'The papers are saying the last time I was with her we were drinking. In fact the last time I was with her was in her house, in her kitchen, we were drinking tea and having a girlie gossip as I would with any friend. Just talking about guys.'
Aisleyne and "guys" ?
:conf:
Seriously.. Aisleyne..? get of the tv.
I think getting drunk after Amy's funeral is really fitting :laugh:
Livia
27-07-2011, 07:12 PM
I have frequently been invited to funerals and would NEVER attend any to which I have NOT been invited ..... :nono:
How strange.
We just go to funerals if we want to but celebs have 'private ceremonies' if they dont want swathes of fans attending so yes, I guess you do have to be invited, or at least approved.
How strange.
Not really, it's not only polite, it's protocol ..... :idc:
Not really, it's not only polite, it's protocol ..... :idc:
I have been to numerous funerals and never been invited I would go if I knew them. I think the protocol mostly for famous. If famous people didnt say only friends and family every Tom Dick and Harry could turn up.(meaning public and press.)
I have been to numerous funerals and never been invited I would go if I knew them. I think the protocol mostly for famous. If famous people didnt say only friends and family every Tom Dick and Harry could turn up.(meaning public and press.)
http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_8170362_word-funeral-invitation-cards.html
Funeral invitations convey short notices of sorrowful events. Ask an extended family member or a close friend to help send funeral invitations to help cope with the suddenness of this activity. Keep verbiage brief to minimize the emotional burden of writing and reading the invitations. Use blank note cards in order to send them quickly.
1 Place the decedent's birth and death years at the top of the card. Include a line, such as, "In Memoriam" followed by the person's name (see Resources).
2 Provide the type of service to which you are inviting people. Tell invitees if the event is a funeral or a memorial service.
3 Add the day, date and time of the funeral. Include the name of the location, such as the church or funeral home.
4 Inform invitees of special services. Enter a line to let people know if a family-only burial follows (see References).
5 Enter information about gatherings after the funeral. Tell invitees if a reception follows. Give location information for the reception.
http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_8170362_word-funeral-invitation-cards.html
Well in Wales we put local notices up in post offices and newspaper shops stating when and where funeral will take place, then when you turn up handed you are handed a
leaflet with photo of the deceased on and hymns you will sing also where the knees up after is . Most people go for knees up, cant say I enjoy funerasl and never go to the crem or graveside to eerie, if I had my way wouldnt turn up for own funeral, you go funerals as mark of respect.
Livia
27-07-2011, 09:07 PM
Not really, it's not only polite, it's protocol ..... :idc:
No, it isn't protocol at all. Anyone can go along to a funeral service and pay their respects. If it's a private ceremony, people will be told. If family only are wanted at the graveside, people will be told. At least that's how it works at my synagogue. And at all of the Christian services and the one Humanist service I've been to.
Vicky.
27-07-2011, 09:12 PM
I have never been 'invited' to a funeral.
Doogle
27-07-2011, 09:14 PM
The only funeral I've been to, my great grandmas funeral, we got a phonecall from my grandad saying about the funeral but he never exactly said "you are invited" he just told us about it. But obviously we turned up cos he wouldn't have told us otherwise :joker:
Marsh.
27-07-2011, 09:24 PM
Aisleyene making it all about her as usual.
No, it isn't protocol at all. Anyone can go along to a funeral and pay their respects. If it's a private ceremony, people will be told. If family only are wanted at the graveside, people will be told. At least that's how it works at my synagogue. And at all of the Christian services and the one Humanist service I've been to.
Well, "word of mouth" may work in your social circle, but it simply would not "do" in mine ..... :nono:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jul/27/amy-winehouse-last-days-camden
She was alone, it seems, for the last night of her life. During his 40-minute eulogy at her funeral on Tuesday her father, Mitch, said the singer had stayed in her Camden Square townhouse. After seeing a doctor for a routine appointment at around 8.30pm, she played drums and sang into the early hours, until her bouncer told her to keep it down. He heard her footsteps overhead for a while, then it went quiet. When he went to check on her in the morning she appeared to be sleeping, and it was only after checking again at 4pm on Saturday afternoon that he realised she was dead.
Well, that's one unemployed and unemployable bouncer ..... :idc:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3718807/Family-say-Amy-Winehouse-was-killed-by-giving-up-drink.html#ixzz1TOO2tbiI
AMY Winehouse's family are convinced she was killed by QUITTING booze, The Sun can reveal. They believe the singer's decision to lay off alcohol completely for three weeks was a lethal "shock" for her tiny body.
Family sources say she died after ignoring her doctor's advice to cut down on her heavy drinking gradually. And the tragic star's loved ones believe she was killed by a seizure because her tiny 4ft 11in frame could not cope with such a dramatic withdrawal.
A source close to Amy's family said: "Abstinence gave her body such a fright they thought it was eventually the cause of her death."
The Rehab singer, found dead on Saturday aged 27, fell off the wagon three days earlier, sinking gin and Red Bull mixes at the iTunes festival at the Roundhouse in Camden, North London.
The cause of Amy's death will not be known for weeks, when toxicology test results come through.
It's possible, but ..... :suspect:
Livia
28-07-2011, 10:06 AM
Well, "word of mouth" may work in your social circle, but it simply would not "do" in mine ..... :nono:
Omah, stop with the finger wagging emoticon.
Your social circles aren't any better or more well mannered than mine. In fact, if you have to wait to be invited by a grieving family to go to a funeral, then really, you don't know much about manners or paying respects.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3718807/Family-say-Amy-Winehouse-was-killed-by-giving-up-drink.html#ixzz1TOO2tbiI
It's possible, but ..... :suspect:
It's entirely possible... Alcohol addiction is a physical one rather than mental. You're body learns to need alcohol to function. If it is taken away suddenly rather than a gradual weaning off, your organs can start to shut down.
Omah, stop with the finger wagging emoticon.
Your social circles aren't any better or more well mannered than mine. In fact, if you have to wait to be invited by a grieving family to go to a funeral, then really, you don't know much about manners or paying respects.
Well, we like to keep the undesirables away ..... :yuk:
Livia
28-07-2011, 10:12 AM
Well, we like to keep the undesirables away ..... :yuk:
WHAT are you talking about?
http://www.styleite.com/media/amy-winehouse-fred-perry/
Amy Winehouse will forever be remembered for her musical talent, troubled private life, and thanks to a collaboration with preppy British label Fred Perry, she may have a lasting legacy in the fashion world, too.
The tragic star teamed up with Fred Perry last fall and the collab has produced two very successful collections. The look was classic but with a Winehouse-spin. “Amy gave crucial input on proportion, color and fit. The range clearly has Amy’s handwriting,” Fred Perry’s marketing rep said upon the line’s release. At the time, Winehouse told Harper’s Bazaar that they’d “pretty much done like up to autumn/winter 2012.” It’s worth noting that the interviewer described Winehouse as appearing heavily intoxicated during this conversation.
What next ..... ?
Perfume ..... :spin:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
28-07-2011, 11:28 AM
lmao kenneth tong is such a dick
Elton John will perform at Amy Winehouse's funeral with a beautiful rendition of Candle Under The Spoon.
InOne
28-07-2011, 11:31 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3718807/Family-say-Amy-Winehouse-was-killed-by-giving-up-drink.html#ixzz1TOO2tbiI
It's possible, but ..... :suspect:
Didn't know she was so small :shocked: She always look tall to me, maybe it was the hair
I've been away from the forums a while and I know I'm late to this but whatever...
When my boyfriend told me the news of her death, it didn't really bother me. A couple of days later I listened to both of her albums and remembered why I loved her so much. Then I cried. And I still do. When I saw her on the cover of OK magazine yesterday I just wanted to crumble there and then. She was so beautiful.
It has hit me harder than I thought it would because I know I'll never get to hear that bellowing voice of hers ever again.
Hi Enid :)
Nice to see you!
Hi Enid :)
Nice to see you!
Thanks, happyland. You too. :xyxwave:
Jordan.
28-07-2011, 01:28 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3718807/Family-say-Amy-Winehouse-was-killed-by-giving-up-drink.html#ixzz1TOO2tbiI
It's possible, but ..... :suspect:
I don't doubt this, what a horrible way to go. She must have been struggling so much :(
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2011, 04:45 PM
I've been away from the forums a while and I know I'm late to this but whatever...
When my boyfriend told me the news of her death, it didn't really bother me. A couple of days later I listened to both of her albums and remembered why I loved her so much. Then I cried. And I still do. When I saw her on the cover of OK magazine yesterday I just wanted to crumble there and then. She was so beautiful.
It has hit me harder than I thought it would because I know I'll never get to hear that bellowing voice of hers ever again.
Enid, she was not beautiful for gawds sake - she looked bloody awful 24/7
Ninastar
28-07-2011, 04:48 PM
Thats subjective, but I agree with Enid. I think that she was beautiful - she had a very unique look about her
She used to be very beautiful imo
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS03Y7iOOjs4LiRB156tNWIeFgOH1r6m pNchvwnoHo3Bp4fIEDn
Enid, she was not beautiful for gawds sake - she looked bloody awful 24/7
Agreed
If she wasn't famous no way would anyone be calling her beautiful.. make up made her look half decent but apart from that no way
Locke.
28-07-2011, 05:06 PM
Far from beautiful :joker:
I don't give a **** what you think.
I pay my respects and all you ***** do is trash her looks. Well done.
Vicky.
28-07-2011, 05:16 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that.
Im not getting why everyone is rubbishing every positive opinion on amy.
joeysteele
28-07-2011, 05:16 PM
It is highly possible,it is why with drugs and alcohol that coming off it has to be done in a gradually reducing way not a sudden stop, usually best done under some supervision too.
Enid, she was not beautiful for gawds sake - she looked bloody awful 24/7
Agreed
If she wasn't famous no way would anyone be calling her beautiful.. make up made her look half decent but apart from that no way
Far from beautiful :joker:
Beautiful ..... :puzzled:
:nono:
Crimson Dynamo
28-07-2011, 05:41 PM
I don't give a **** what you think.
I pay my respects and all you ***** do is trash her looks. Well done.
No one wants mawkish fake platitudes. Death is real so keep it real.
Shaun
28-07-2011, 05:43 PM
She was attractive during the Frank era
This is easily in the run for one of the worst threads on the forums history as it stands, sadly. Omah in particular continues to strike me as an insufferable prick.
TiBB really hasn't changed, has it? Sick of literally EVERY SINGLE thread derailing into an argument.
See you all in another 6 months.
Enid! Don't go! Not every thread turns into an argument :(
Shaun
28-07-2011, 06:02 PM
I have this poster on my wall. Dem titties :o
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8879/amyjadeqmagazine.jpg
Ninastar
28-07-2011, 06:07 PM
:love:
Fetch The Bolt Cutters
28-07-2011, 06:12 PM
i have an amy poster too :amazed:
Shaun
28-07-2011, 06:13 PM
It's right by my door so I'm faced with those breasts every single time I walk in or out :lovedup:
Fetch The Bolt Cutters
28-07-2011, 06:14 PM
ew you like breasts
I have this poster on my wall. Dem titties :o
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8879/amyjadeqmagazine.jpg
Aren't the gruesome twosome fake ..... :conf:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/harrymount/100055111/the-crucifix-row-that-shows-amy-winehouse-has-become-a-religious-icon/
By Harry Mount
I have just seen an extraordinary scene outside Amy Winehouse’s house – just round the corner from my flat in Camden, north London.
As I bicycled past, a woman in her late 30s, dressed in dark clothes and a trilby, started taking photographs on her phone of a dummy on a crucifix that she had placed against the railings in Camden Square.
An incensed local man, in his 70s, started shouting at her, “It’s outrageous. She was Jewish. Who else thinks this is outrageous? We must call the police.”
“Are you Jewish yourself?” asked the cabbie who had brought the woman to the square.
“No – but it’s still outrageous.”
When the woman continued taking photographs, the elderly man grabbed the mobile from her hand and flung it over the railings into the square. The crowd – around a dozen strong – divided around 50/50, shouting their approval or disapproval of the elderly man’s behaviour.
“Who’s going to pay me my £13?” said the cabbie, as the woman went into the square in search of her phone.
At this moment, a man in his 60s turned up, objecting to the scene.
“I’m a Russian Jew,” he said, “And I find it deeply shocking.”
By now, the woman had retrieved her phone. She jumped back into the cab and left the square.
Minutes after, a young man in his early 20s, with a Human League haircut – his hair combed at an extreme horizontal angle across the scalp - ripped down the crucifix and hurled it to the ground, kicking the dummy over and over again.
“Those are Dolce Gabbana sunglasses,” said a tourist in the crowd, looking at the glasses that had been knocked off the dummy’s face before I turned up.
It was a distressing row. The dignified crowd that turned up at the square soon after Amy Winehouse’s death has now changed. There are still some genuinely shocked figures, turning up with flowers. But there are also now some ghouls who are positively enjoying the set-up.
Mostly "undesirables" ..... ;)
Livia
28-07-2011, 10:05 PM
Mostly "undesirables" ..... ;)
Leave it now Omah. You've laboured your point to the point of nausia. You know that other people feel strongly and you're just trying to antagonise.
Leave it now Omah. You've laboured your point to the point of nausia (sic). You know that other people feel strongly and you're just trying to antagonise.
No, I'm not ..... I'm "linking" for clarification ..... ;) :
WHAT are you talking about?
Livia
28-07-2011, 11:23 PM
No, I'm not ..... I'm "linking" for clarification ..... ;) :
You killed this thread with your relentless silliness Omar.
Perfume ..... :spin:
No, it's an album ..... :
Amy Winehouse Third Album On The Way?
Amy Winehouse's third studio album could be released posthumously following reports the singer left behind a considerable amount of new material. A spokesman close to Island Records' mother company Universal said Amy had put down the "framework" of a dozen new songs intended for her new record, reports the UK's Guardian newspaper.
The spokesman noted that while Winehouse had not released any new material since 'Back to Black' in 2006, she had been recording intermittently for several years, adding, "Amy had expressed an interest in getting back into the studio, and after some consultation everyone thought that would be a positive thing and a distraction from the other things she was dealing with.She had put down the bare bones of tracks and some were further along than others"
I'm sure that, with the technology available today, "the bare bones of tracks" will be suitably enhanced to entice the punters to part with their pocket-money ..... :idc:
You killed this thread with your relentless silliness Omar.
Omah ..... it's an acronym ..... ;)
Livia
28-07-2011, 11:44 PM
Omah ..... it's an acronym ..... ;)
Whatever.
Crimson Dynamo
29-07-2011, 09:36 AM
TiBB really hasn't changed, has it? Sick of literally EVERY SINGLE thread derailing into an argument.
See you all in another 6 months.
Its better than flounces
Pyramid*
29-07-2011, 09:52 AM
I have this poster on my wall. Dem titties :o
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8879/amyjadeqmagazine.jpg
i have an amy poster too :amazed:
ew you like breasts
What did you do to your poster then Scott...cut her tits off. She was a female and had female breasts - and natural ones before she let drugs n booze wreck her body.
Years ago, Amy had a very unusual quirky attractiveness to her. She looked healthy when she first came to the public's attention. Yet look what a terrible mess she looked after only a few years of the 'salubrioius' rock and roll lifestyle did to her.
BEFORE:
http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Amy-Winehouse-2006-age-22.jpg
AFTER:
http://www.behindthehype.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/amy_winehouse_4_wenn1832955.jpg
If ever there was proof that the Rock N Roll lifestyle is a killer...let this be proof of it.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
29-07-2011, 09:23 PM
why do people make everything a battle? now people are arguing over who her TRUE fans are because they loved her before she died. I saw this comment under one of her vids
"I'm sick of all these fake Winehouse Fans who aint never heard of heard until July 23rd 2011! I've been a fan since 08 Thumbs up REAL Amy Winehouse Fans!" it got like 242 likes
Mmmm, well daarling, I do believe she has been around since before 2008. So what makes you more of a fan just because you paid more attention to her with her most mainstream album? :conf: you can say people taking more notice now is just the same as you paying more attention when she was talked about so shut it.
If you listen, you like, you are fan end of. It doesn't matter if you become a fan 20 years after the material. Otherwise none of us are really fans of old music cause none of us were around then.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
29-07-2011, 09:27 PM
Agreed
If she wasn't famous no way would anyone be calling her beautiful.. make up made her look half decent but apart from that no way
she wasn't ugly either. she was...inneresting.
Shaun
29-07-2011, 09:30 PM
Aren't the gruesome twosome fake ..... :conf:
No, I don't think so. Then again she's wearing a bit of a corset so that probably explains why they're so prominent. Nice try at slandering something else about the recently deceased though :thumbs: tasteless jackass.
why do people make everything a battle? now people are arguing over who her TRUE fans are because they loved her before she died. I saw this comment under one of her vids
"I'm sick of all these fake Winehouse Fans who aint never heard of heard until July 23rd 2011! I've been a fan since 08 Thumbs up REAL Amy Winehouse Fans!" it got like 242 likes
Mmmm, well daarling, I do believe she has been around since before 2008. So what makes you more of a fan just because you paid more attention to her with her most mainstream album? :conf: you can say people taking more notice now is just the same as you paying more attention when she was talked about so shut it.
If you listen, you like, you are fan end of. It doesn't matter if you become a fan 20 years after the material. Otherwise none of us are really fans of old music cause none of us were around then.
Couldn't agree any more. I hadn't heard her first album until the other day, but now I love it and it hasn't changed the fact that I love her. I know more of her songs, but still love her the same amount. Some people are so pathetic, surely you'll want everybody to be talking about your favourite artist and saying they loved her. It's not a competition ffs
Amy's breasts were implants.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
29-07-2011, 09:36 PM
Couldn't agree any more. I hadn't heard her first album until the other day, but now I love it and it hasn't changed the fact that I love her. I know more of her songs, but still love her the same amount. Some people are so pathetic, surely you'll want everybody to be talking about your favourite artist and saying they loved her. It's not a competition ffs
Exactly.
Shaun
29-07-2011, 09:37 PM
-eats words-
I have this poster on my wall. Dem titties :o
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8879/amyjadeqmagazine.jpg
Aren't the gruesome twosome fake ..... :conf:
No, I don't think so. Then again she's wearing a bit of a corset so that probably explains why they're so prominent. Nice try at slandering something else about the recently deceased though :thumbs: tasteless jackass.
Amy's breasts were implants.
-eats words-
:pat:
Zippy
29-07-2011, 11:50 PM
I'd also like to add to those saying how beautiful she once was. Absolutely, no question. And in a very interesting way too.
some just prefer dull, very obvious beauty. Usually because theyre too immature and narrow minded to think outside the box.
Doogle
29-07-2011, 11:54 PM
I always thought she was beautiful as well, she was one of those artists that would catch my eye when I was younger, rather than the obvious Britney and whoever else was big around the time Amy released her first album.
I remember seeing a picture of her laying drunk looking reaaaaaally rough on the street a few years ago, it made me cry honestly. :/
Iceman
30-07-2011, 03:30 AM
I have this poster on my wall. Dem titties :o
:love:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8879/amyjadeqmagazine.jpg
:love:
:love:
amy :sad:
It's right by my door so I'm faced with those breasts every single time I walk in or out :lovedup:
You're such a straight (unless a poster thinks im singling you out, if so you're such a something I cant comment on)
What did you do to your poster then Scott...cut her tits off. She was a female and had female breasts - and natural ones before she let drugs n booze wreck her body.
Years ago, Amy had a very unusual quirky attractiveness to her. She looked healthy when she first came to the public's attention. Yet look what a terrible mess she looked after only a few years of the 'salubrioius' rock and roll lifestyle did to her.
BEFORE:
http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Amy-Winehouse-2006-age-22.jpg
AFTER:
http://www.behindthehype.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/amy_winehouse_4_wenn1832955.jpg
If ever there was proof that the Rock N Roll lifestyle is a killer...let this be proof of it.
No, I don't think so. Then again she's wearing a bit of a corset so that probably explains why they're so prominent. Nice try at slandering something else about the recently deceased though :thumbs: tasteless jackass.
What kind of ****ery is this........................................
joeysteele
30-07-2011, 09:18 AM
Amy actually had great respect for those much older than herself, it is widely reported she adored and was really close to her Grandmother, even having her name as a tattoo on her arm.
Amy's ashes are going to be joined with her Grandmothers so far from likely not caring what old/er people thought ,she likely had a fair bit of respect for them.
http://uk.eonline.com/news/ask_the_answer_bitch/why_didnt_everybody_buy_amy_winehouse/254586#ixzz1Td1WhfME
Why do people buy the songs of recently deceased musicians? Amy Winehouse's songs came out quite recently (compared to, say, Michael Jackson) so why do people feel the need to buy her songs now rather than when they first came out?
According to Keith Caulfield, associate director of charts for Billboard, the reason why three Winehouse albums are currently near the top of the iTunes album charts is this: Many people really, truly, didn't know who she was before this week.
"A lot of it has to do with people just discovering who an artist is," Caulfield says. "It's an ironic twist that many people don't learn of an artist until that artist passes away.
"Or there may be a lot of people who have known about her, and knew the songs she had, but didn't necessary make the connection. And when someone passes away, people make the connection for you."
..... then they come out of the walls and the hysteria begins ..... :eek:
Jordan.
30-07-2011, 10:16 PM
Omah this thread doesn't need updating with every drivel news story you find :idc:
Omah this thread doesn't need updating with every drivel news story you find :idc:
Yes, it does ..... :thumbs:
Jordan.
30-07-2011, 10:24 PM
Yes, it does ..... :thumbs:
No :idc:
No :idc:
Yes ..... :laugh2:
Smithy
30-07-2011, 10:31 PM
Omah this thread doesn't need updating with every drivel news story you find :idc:
[2]
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/07/31/amy-winehouse-looked-a-physical-wreck-the-day-before-she-died-115875-23309597/#ixzz1TdAGS6u9
Amy Winehouse’s grieving mum Janis says her daughter was “a physical wreck and completely out of it” the day before she died.
Janis spent several hours with her tragic daughter after turning up at her home unannounced.
But 27-year-old Amy was in such a bad way that her minders had to help her down the stairs.
This contradicts reports last week that she had beaten her drug and alcohol demons – and adds weight to friends’ fears that she had fallen back into her old ways.
Oh dear ..... :(
Doogle
30-07-2011, 10:38 PM
:bored:
Pyramid*
30-07-2011, 10:39 PM
Wasn't it reported on the actual day of her death, that her mother had been with her the day before she died and her own mother said she was completely 'out of it'. I recall that being in the papers that day, never mind a week on.
MeMyselfAndI
30-07-2011, 10:48 PM
Im supriced this thread is still active
Jordan.
30-07-2011, 10:49 PM
Oh suprise suprise 'Janis told a friend' who then just so happened to go tell the mirror seriously **** :idc:
I'd rather this thread just be locked than have BS posted every hour.
MeMyselfAndI
30-07-2011, 10:49 PM
omg, i just released how bad that sounds, i mean im supriced your not using the tribute thread rather than the news of her being dead thread D:
Wasn't it reported on the actual day of her death, that her mother had been with her the day before she died and her own mother said she was completely 'out of it'. I recall that being in the papers that day, never mind a week on.
This refers to a Sunday Mirror article, which I've never seen :
July 24, 2011 11:50 AM
Winehouse's mother: "She seemed out of it"
Amy Winehouse's mother said the singer was not well when they met a day before she died, a British newspaper reported Sunday, while her family mourned the loss of "a wonderful daughter, sister, niece."
The Sunday Mirror quoted Janis Winehouse as saying she believed it was "only a matter of time" before her daughter died.
The 27-year-old singer was found dead at her London home on Saturday.
"She seemed out of it. But her passing so suddenly still hasn't hit me," Janis told the tabloid.
:conf:
Niamh.
30-07-2011, 10:51 PM
omg, i just released how bad that sounds, i mean im supriced your not using the tribute thread rather than the news of her being dead thread D:
The tribute thread is just for positive stuff
Doogle
30-07-2011, 10:51 PM
omg, i just released how bad that sounds, i mean im supriced your not using the tribute thread rather than the news of her being dead thread D:
It's now Omah just posting every story about her
MeMyselfAndI
30-07-2011, 10:52 PM
The tribute thread is just for positive stuff
o, so your all hating her LOL
Im supriced this thread is still active
It's been VERY active - far more than the so-called "tribute" thread .... :hmph:
Pyramid*
30-07-2011, 10:55 PM
Oh suprise suprise 'Janis told a friend' who then just so happened to go tell the mirror seriously **** :idc:
I'd rather this thread just be locked than have BS posted every hour.
This refers to a Sunday Mirror article, which I've never seen :
:conf:
Nope, I read it last week, and not in the Mirror - sure it was the DM and somewhere else - def not Mirror though. It was in the same comment as her mother saying that she knew that it was only a matter of time for Amy.
Jordan.
30-07-2011, 10:56 PM
It's been VERY active - far more than the so-called "tribute" thread .... :hmph:
Maybe because the tribute thread isn't full of 50 news articles about the same thing :idc:
It's now Omah just posting every story about her
Well, myself and others are quite interested in the circumstances of her death - I'm not a fan and, IMO, AW was neither legend or icon, just another music industry casualty - as in F1, such casualties are rare nowadays, but in the '60's and '70's, it seemed that someone, at the peak of their career, died every other week .....
Pyramid*
30-07-2011, 10:58 PM
Maybe because the tribute thread isn't full of 50 news articles about the same thing :idc:
I'm somewhat bemused that those who appear not to like this thread, continue to read it, read the comments and post on it. Why do that if you don't like what is being put up? :conf:
Maybe because the tribute thread isn't full of 50 news articles about the same thing :idc:
Oh, you mean AW's death ..... :conf:
Pyramid*
30-07-2011, 11:00 PM
Oh, you mean AW's death ..... :conf:
I am sure that as more details come out over the course, there will be more posts on the thread - or another one raised - especially when tests results are still awaiting.
It's been VERY active - far more than the so-called "tribute" thread .... :hmph:
You sad, sad son of a bitch.
I am sure that as more details come out over the course, there will be more posts on the thread - or another one raised - especially when tests results are still awaiting.
I've already got another one waiting ..... ;)
Pyramid*
30-07-2011, 11:05 PM
You sad, sad son of a bitch.
Deary me.
Deary me.
Who's he talking about ?
:puzzled:
(I can't read the FM's post, just your quote)
Jordan.
30-07-2011, 11:16 PM
I'm somewhat bemused that those who appear not to like this thread, continue to read it, read the comments and post on it. Why do that if you don't like what is being put up? :conf:
Because I can
Pyramid*
30-07-2011, 11:17 PM
Who's he talking about ?
:puzzled:
(I can't read the FM's post, just your quote)
The usual drivel.
Lots in the papers, Amy not wanting the fame, just wanted a family, Blake's mother saying not his fault (technically true in a way).
Pyramid*
30-07-2011, 11:20 PM
Because I can
Clearly you can, obviously. It can't bother you that much then - seeing as you keep helping bump the thread - so in a way, it's all good. Keeps the thread as one of the hot threads, for those who do actually want to discuss her death and how things unravel from that.
The usual drivel.
Lots in the papers, Amy not wanting the fame, just wanted a family, Blake's mother saying not his fault (technically true in a way).
OK, as long as it wasn't me .... ;)
Jordan.
30-07-2011, 11:23 PM
Clearly you can, obviously. It can't bother you that much then - seeing as you keep helping bump the thread - so in a way, it's all good. Keeps the thread as one of the hot threads, for those who do actually want to discuss her death and how things unravel from that.
Yeah okay, have fun unravelling made up sources and false happenings :idc:
Yeah okay, have fun unravelling made up sources and false happenings :idc:
The truth is out there ..... :cool:
Pyramid*
30-07-2011, 11:26 PM
Yeah okay, have fun unravelling made up sources and false happenings :idc:
I'll have my own opinion based on what I happen to believe, without make up sources and false happenings.....I'm a big girl now, I can do that, all on my own.
I still don't rule out suicide.
I still don't rule out suicide.
Rule nothing out, rule nothing in ..... :suspect:
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2011/07/31/how_large_will_amy_winehouses_legacy_loom/?page=1
Predictably in the wake of her death on July 23, of still unexplained causes, Amy Winehouse’s music has returned to the Billboard charts.
The troubled British soul star’s first album, 2003’s “Frank,’’ returned to the Top 200 albums chart at No. 57. Her better known sophomore release, 2006’s “Back to Black,’’ which spawned the incongruously jaunty hit “Rehab,’’ with its famously defiant “No, no, no,’’ re-entered the Top 10 at No. 9. “Rehab’’ itself hit No. 46 on the digital songs chart.
So the common post-mortem sales bump means that at the very least, more people will get to know the sometimes buoyant, sometimes brooding music that Winehouse loved to make.
Otherwise, is this anything other than an unremittingly dark tale? And was anyone who was familiar with Winehouse’s longtime struggles with substance abuse shocked by her death?
For many, there was surely real anger over the wasted potential. But once that recedes, and the veil of mourning is lifted, the question arises: What might Winehouse’s enduring legacy be?
It has been widely noted that she has joined a notorious club of other musicians who died at the far-too-young age of 27 after battling similar demons. Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin died in 1970, Jim Morrison of the Doors in 1971, and Kurt Cobain of Nirvana in 1994. Will Winehouse’s myth loom as large?
Ultimately, the answer lies in the mythmaking that is already underway. Will there be posthumous releases, biographies, films?
Given the degree to which Winehouse was already embroiled in her addictions at the height of her fame, it’s unlikely she will be assured an automatic place on the Mount Rushmore of doomed rock stars. Her downward trajectory, caught in the flashbulbs of our voracious tabloid media culture, was a very steep pitch. And because of that, her musical output was small and consistently dwarfed by the mess in her life.
She was a pivotal figure in her brief time. As a songwriter, and with the help of producer Mark Ronson and the expertise of Sharon Jones’s band, the Dap-Kings, at her disposal, Winehouse fused vintage and modern R&B sounds, with nods to Motown and Lauryn Hill. She developed a look - all beehives and tattoos, taking the supper club to the nightclub - that put her at the forefront of a British retro-soul trend that included countrywomen such as Duffy, Estelle, and the now phenomenally successful Adele, who cites Winehouse as an inspiration.
"retro-soul" - didn't we have that in the '90's ..... :joker:
Niamh.
31-07-2011, 01:24 AM
o, so your all hating her LOL
Me? No, I like her.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/posthumous-album-from-winehouse-will-have-a-reggae-feel-2329288.html
A posthumous album by Amy Winehouse is likely to move away from the jazz influence of her two albums and be reggae inspired. Music industry insiders have also hinted it may prove her most autobiographical work.
The singer, who died aged 27 last Saturday, could have as many as seven singles in the top 40 this weekend. Meanwhile, details have been emerging about scores of new tracks she had recorded that are likely to become an as-yet-untitled third album.
Her record company remained tight-lipped over the album's contents but, according to her biographer, many of the new songs have a reggae feel, inspired by the time she spent in St Lucia last year. "In what we can tell from the third album, I think she had been quite influenced by reggae," said Chas Newkey-Burden, who wrote Amy Winehouse: The Biography in 2009. Speaking from his home near Windsor, Mr Newkey-Burden added: "I think Amy would have been quite keen for a slightly indulgent third album. It might have been her way of showing the world what she was really like."
Recording sessions on the album were fraught and Winehouse was said to be unsatisfied with the work. But it is unlikely her record company will try to prevent the songs from seeing the light of day.
"Personally, I think her third album shouldn't be released," said Mr Newkey-Burden. "Obviously, it's up to her family, but, as a fan and her biographer, I would be against it being released because it would muddle the legacy. The only way it would be fair would be to release it as a 'sessions'-type album. But I suspect they will try to whip it into an actual album."
"retro-reggae" ?
Don't pop musicians make "new" music anymore ..... :conf:
Boothy
31-07-2011, 11:02 AM
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2011/07/31/how_large_will_amy_winehouses_legacy_loom/?page=1
"retro-soul" - didn't we have that in the '90's ..... :joker:
Yes. We also had Rock music in the 60s. Your point is?
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/posthumous-album-from-winehouse-will-have-a-reggae-feel-2329288.html
"retro-reggae" ?
Don't pop musicians make "new" music anymore ..... :conf:
You're getting desperate when you start having a pop at the genre of her music.
bbfan1991
31-07-2011, 11:24 AM
Tragic:(, didn't know about this till I was up and away on holiday. Loved her music and unfortunately despite her talent the addiction to drugs and drink was the final blow for her.
joeysteele
31-07-2011, 12:22 PM
Amy was one of those artistes(most are anyway) who divide opinion,some really liked her, some liked her a bit, some weren't bothered and some didn't like her or her music.
I liked lots of her songs, she wasn't an artiste I would choose to see live, but I could have been encouraged to have gone to a concert of hers.
A lot of her songs,especially listening to them now,have a deeper meaning to them because of the lyrics,it's almost like she was pouring out her feelings and thoughts into those lyrics.
I would guess this thread has a long life to it since there still a lot of questions to be answered as to her untimely death.Until we have those answers the only real facts we know are she had a drink problem, a drugs problem and that she has died at only 27.
The tribute thread has less posts because those who have made a tribute to her have done so and with little more than the one post it took to do that, this thread is a discussion thread and has many points thrown backwards and forwards as to the issues so will clearly have a great many more posts.
She divided opinion but she did have talent, there was likely more to come too,she clearly wasn't the hard case some thought she was, clearly from all reports she was really quite vulnerable.
It is sad she died at 27 but her music will live on, she wasn't my kind of singer or performer but some of her songs are really great and I hope in time that is her lasting memory for people,her music, not the very wild and traumatic build up,mostly self inflicted, to the end of her young life.
Crimson Dynamo
31-07-2011, 12:40 PM
Amy was one of those artistes(most are anyway) who divide opinion,some really liked her, some liked her a bit, some weren't bothered and some didn't like her or her music.
I liked lots of her songs, she wasn't an artiste I would choose to see live, but I could have been encouraged to have gone to a concert of hers.
A lot of her songs,especially listening to them now,have a deeper meaning to them because of the lyrics,it's almost like she was pouring out her feelings and thoughts into those lyrics.
I would guess this thread has a long life to it since there still a lot of questions to be answered as to her untimely death.Until we have those answers the only real facts we know are she had a drink problem, a drugs problem and that she has died at only 27.
The tribute thread has less posts because those who have made a tribute to her have done so and with little more than the one post it took to do that, this thread is a discussion thread and has many points thrown backwards and forwards as to the issues so will clearly have a great many more posts.
She divided opinion but she did have talent, there was likely more to come too,she clearly wasn't the hard case some thought she was, clearly from all reports she was really quite vulnerable.
It is sad she died at 27 but her music will live on, she wasn't my kind of singer or performer but some of her songs are really great and I hope in time that is her lasting memory for people,her music, not the very wild and traumatic build up,mostly self inflicted, to the end of her young life.
To be honest I doubt many folk care. She had some good songs but as an artist she was pretty crap. COuld do no media and no promo. Her concerts were awful and she chose vile men to couple up with.
Life moves on.
InOne
31-07-2011, 12:44 PM
People are pretty fickle really tbh. One day the see her as a junky the next a legend
Crimson Dynamo
31-07-2011, 12:48 PM
People are pretty fickle really tbh. One day the see her as a junky the next a legend
Its the power of death. She was not a legend just a unlucky (ironically) sad little girl. Legends are people like Dolly Parton, Barbara Streisand - those that have been at the top for decades and survived.
Yes. We also had Rock music in the 60s. Your point is?
You're getting desperate when you start having a pop at the genre of her music.
I remember a time when "pop" (and "rock") music moved on, sometimes at a seemingly ferocious pace - now it seems to be stuck in a rut and forever looking back ..... :bored:
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/amy-winehouse-marriage-break-up-album-to-be-released_1237480
Amy Winehouse's forthcoming album was to be about her tumultuous drug-addled relationship and divorce with Blake Fielder-civil, and it is to get a posthumous release, the Daily Mail has reported. Fielder-Civil, 33, was imprisoned for 7 months following an attack on a pub landlord, and his marriage to Amy Winehouse ended after just 2 years in 2009. A spokesperson for Winehouse's family said: "Amy always had a notebook on her and would write down lyrics and ideas,' he said. 'People who have heard the new songs say that they are very, very good and that they are as autobiographical as ever.The period after 2006 was when Amy went through the most emotional upheaval, with Blake going to prison and then their divorce."
A source told the Daily Mail that most of the tracks were just demos, where Amy had laid down a backing track and had written some lyrics, and the songs would be completed using Amy's vocals or contributions from friends. It is slated for release next year, with all proceeds going to a charity set up by Amy's father Mitch to help people struggling with addiction. Since her death last week, the album Back to Black has topped the iTunes charts in 17 different countries.
Will this be the retro-reggae album or a regression to retro-jazz ?
:puzzled:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/07/31/amy-winehouse-was-adopting-girl-of-10-115875-23309601/#ixzz1ThuCpZTR
The troubled singer had started the process of becoming a mum to 10-year-old Dannika Augustine, who she met on the idyllic Caribbean island.
Amy had booked her ticket to visit the schoolgirl next week. The child’s grandmother revealed the singer had already hired lawyers for the adoption, but her plans were cut short by her sudden death last week aged just 27.
Pretty Dannika was living in *poverty with her single mum, who was *struggling to feed her, when Amy took her under her wing during one of her many stays on the island over the last two years.
Frankly, I am appalled at such irresponsibility from all the parties concerned ..... :shocked:
http://www.people.co.uk/celebs-tv/celebrities/2011/07/31/amy-winehouse-s-close-friend-aisleyne-horgan-wallace-reveals-the-star-dreamed-of-marrying-boyfriend-reg-102039-23309026/
ONE of Amy Winehouse’s closest friends has told how the singer’s last dream was to marry her boyfriend and have children.
The tragic star had wanted nothing more than to settle down and be a housewife to her film-maker boyfriend Reg Traviss, 35, says Aisleyne Horgan-Wallace.
And the Back to Black singer was *happier than ever before, according to ex Big Brother contestant Aisleyne.
In stark contrast to the star’s public hell-raising drink-and-drugs image, Aisleyne revealed how Amy…
LOVED watching Channel 4’s teatime word game Countdown.
LIKED to pop round to her local takeaway for a spicy kebab and chips.
ENJOYED having a cosy cup of tea with her mates and a nap in the afternoon.
LAVISHED her love on up to five kittens.
SANG like an angel while she did the housework.
Aisleyne, 32, who was pals with Amy for three years until her devastating death last week, said: “She would *always tell me that she wanted nothing more than to be a housewife. She wanted to have children and stay at home and look after them.
“The fame didn’t bother her, she didn’t crave that, she was about the love of music. “Whether it was in front of millions or it was just in a local pub, she was just happy performing and what she really wanted was to have a family."
..... and lots more gushing from "bezzy fren" and former "gangsta ho" Aisleyne Horgan-Wallace ..... :yuk:
Zippy
31-07-2011, 11:17 PM
To be honest I doubt many folk care. She had some good songs but as an artist she was pretty crap. COuld do no media and no promo. Her concerts were awful and she chose vile men to couple up with.
Life moves on.
well move on then and stop yapping about her.
And her death has made a worldwide impact; its all over the media and her music is back in dozens of countries top 10 charts. So for you to say that not many folk care is just ignorant BS.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a332591/aisleyne-horgan-wallace-i-was-banned-from-amy-winehouse-funeral.html
Aisleyne Horgan-Wallace has admitted that she was banned from friend Amy Winehouse's funeral this week over reports that she encouraged the singer's destructive lifestyle.
The Big Brother contestant was barred from a private service commemorating the 'Back To Black' star on Tuesday after the 27-year-old's parents Mitch and Janis suspected that the pair had partied before her death last Saturday.
However, Horgan-Wallace today insisted that her last meeting with Winehouse had been a low-key affair and claimed that she would never attempt to jeopardise the Grammy-winner's victory over her addictions.
Jeez, what a "meeja-ho" - we haven't heard of her since her "fashion-empire" went t1t$-up then AHW comes craking out of the woodwork claiming a "special" relationship with AW ..... :rolleyes:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2020963/Amy-Winehouse-bought-1-200-crack-heroin-night-died-claims-fixer.html#ixzz1TlOHPuoJ
A London drug fixer claims he helped Amy Winehouse buy £1,200 of crack cocaine and heroin the night before she died.
Tony Azzopardi, who is due to be re-interviewed by police today, alleged he helped the late singer buy the Class A narcotics in the early hours of July 23rd - the same day she was found dead in her London home.
The 56-year-old, who was introduced to the tragic star by her ex-husband Blake Fielder-Civil, claimed he wanted her family to 'know the truth about what happened'.
Azzopardi told the Daily Mirror he bumped into the singer in a black cab near The Eagle pub around 11:30pm on July 22nd.
Several people had previously claimed to have seen Amy outisde the Good Mixer bar in Camden that night.
Azzopardi claims Amy asked him to help her buy some drugs and they rode together in the taxi to West Hampstead, where he made a phonecall to a local dealer.
A short time later, he alleges the singer handed over £1,200 for half an ounce each of crack and heroin.
He claims he last saw her when she dropped him off in Archway, North London before heading back to her Camden home.
Hours later, Amy's lifeless body was found by her bodyguard around 4pm.
Despite Azzopardi's claims, police said they found no drug paraphenalia at the singer's house.
:puzzled:
Predictable that every low life scum comes out of the woodwork with their 'exclusive' crap when these tragedies happen, 15 minutes of fame:idc:
RIP Amy
Pyramid*
01-08-2011, 09:01 AM
Picking up from Omah's last newspaper article:
Despite Azzopardi's claims, police said they found no drug paraphenalia at the singer's house.
She was found by her bodyguard. I'm quite sure that if (IF) she had been taking drugs and OD'd, that there is a very good chance that he removed all the evidence of the drug taking- out of nothing more than loyalty to still try to protect her, even at that stage.
That said, it makes no sense - as surely that would have shown up in the preliminary tests conducted - which all came back inconclusive.
I still think they do know the reason but have chosen not to make it public at the request of her family. I'm quite sure there is no law to state that such information be made public - and if that is the case, I do not blame her parents one bit for keeping that private. Too much of all of their lives has been played out in public.
Picking up from Omah's last newspaper article:
She was found by her bodyguard. I'm quite sure that if (IF) she had been taking drugs and OD'd, that there is a very good chance that he removed all the evidence of the drug taking- out of nothing more than loyalty to still try to protect her, even at that stage.
That said, it makes no sense - as surely that would have shown up in the preliminary tests conducted - which all came back inconclusive.
I still think they do know the reason but have chosen not to make it public at the request of her family. I'm quite sure there is no law to state that such information be made public - and if that is the case, I do not blame her parents one bit for keeping that private. Too much of all of their lives has been played out in public.
I agree, I don't see the benefit of every last detail being reported,, it changes nothing. Amy is dead and her family are grieving, if she died with £1200 of cocaine in her body, well what is knowing that going to change, we all know she lead a destructive lifestyle so what do details matter escept to her poor family who now have to suffer every detail of her life picked over, as if losing her isn't bad enough for them
Livia
01-08-2011, 09:13 AM
Picking up from Omah's last newspaper article:
She was found by her bodyguard. I'm quite sure that if (IF) she had been taking drugs and OD'd, that there is a very good chance that he removed all the evidence of the drug taking- out of nothing more than loyalty to still try to protect her, even at that stage.
That said, it makes no sense - as surely that would have shown up in the preliminary tests conducted - which all came back inconclusive.
I still think they do know the reason but have chosen not to make it public at the request of her family. I'm quite sure there is no law to state that such information be made public - and if that is the case, I do not blame her parents one bit for keeping that private. Too much of all of their lives has been played out in public.
Firstly, that's a wild accusation to make about the body guard, and then it's cancelled out by your second paragraph.
Perhaps the Winehouse family has had a look at what some people have said about their daughter on the Internet. Maybe they don't want to add fuel to an already blazing fire. I'm off this thread now... a lot of you are a little too gleeful, a little too thrilled by the salaciousness of it all. And that's weird.
I agree, I don't see the benefit of every last detail being reported,, it changes nothing. Amy is dead and her family are grieving, if she died with £1200 of cocaine in her body, well what is knowing that going to change, we all know she lead a destructive lifestyle so what do details matter escept to her poor family who now have to suffer every detail of her life picked over, as if losing her isn't bad enough for them
Well, when there's a conflict in the reporting of an event that is of public interest, I like to know which version is (at least close to) the truth - I don't believe in so-called icons, myths and legends ..... ;)
Well, when there's a conflict in the reporting of an event that is of public interest, I like to know which version is (at least close to) the truth - I don't believe in so-called icons, myths and legends ..... ;)
I don't see it's of public interest, ah the cause of Amy's death is going to have a direct effect on the Country or perhaps even the world so we all need to know this information, it's of national importance. No it only serves to make her family suffer, and attempt to dirty her memory. As for icons, myths, legends, well that's up to any individual as to what her music and place in the industry meant, that's not up for negotiation
Pyramid*
01-08-2011, 09:31 AM
Firstly, that's a wild accusation to make about the body guard, and then it's cancelled out by your second paragraph.
Perhaps the Winehouse family has had a look at what some people have said about their daughter on the Internet. Maybe they don't want to add fuel to an already blazing fire. I'm off this thread now... a lot of you are a little too gleeful, a little too thrilled by the salaciousness of it all. And that's weird.
Wild accusation huh? See you've not been paying much attention since last week as it had been reported (note: reported, I'm going on as much info as you - so you can can the supercillious attitude right now). It's a point of discussion- not some wild accusation - unless I'm mistaken, this is a public forum, not a court of law.
Tough luck if you don't like some of what's being said - she chose to live her life in the spotlight - and most of the last several years being a total mess in public - with or without her boyfriends/husband and hangers on - to pretend otherwise is nothing less than shutting yourself off from the truth.
I get the feeling that her parents wouldn't need to check the internet to see what people are saying: it's hardly like she turned to drink and drugs in the last month. Time you took the rose tinted glasses off and looked at the world with clear vision.
I don't see it's of public interest
I do ..... :)
A quick search on Google gives 74,700,000 results for "Amy Winehouse death" so I guess a few more people are interested, too ..... :idc:
As for icons, myths, legends, well that's up to any individual as to what her music and place in the industry meant
Of course, others may choose to believe in icons, myths and legends ..... ;)
Incidentally, I have already pointed out that this "general interest" thread has attracted far more attention than the "tribute" thread ..... :thumbs:
I do ..... :)
A quick search on Google gives 74,700,000 results for "Amy Winehouse death" so I guess a few more people are interested, too ..... :idc:
Of course, others may choose to believe in icons, myths and legends ..... ;)
Incidentally, I have already pointed out that this "general interest" thread has attracted far more attention than the "tribute" thread ..... :thumbs:
ehm ok, well there's really nopoint in the public crying 'outrage' at phone hacking and the means the press use to gain every grubby, dirty little detail of every high profile story then, as it's their obsession with needing to know everything, whether it is their right or not is why this happens. I'm not disagreeing that it's a high profile story just the pointlessness of raking over fiction and fact, it will change nothing for us, nothing for Amy, but it will hurt her loved ones unecessarily
People need to stop bickering in here. It's getting tired.
Pyramid*
01-08-2011, 10:10 AM
I don't see it's of public interest, ah the cause of Amy's death is going to have a direct effect on the Country or perhaps even the world so we all need to know this information, it's of national importance. No it only serves to make her family suffer, and attempt to dirty her memory. As for icons, myths, legends, well that's up to any individual as to what her music and place in the industry meant, that's not up for negotiation
That's the thing though. Whilst there is no need for the public to be informed of the ins and outs - because Amy led such a public life, and in the way that she did over the past years (for it has been that, and not her music/record sales that have kept her in the public eye) - that naturally leads to public interest -whether rightly so or not.
It is the very way in which she - and her father with his 'tv show' and riding on her coat tails, lent themselves to being in the spotlight - that has contributed in no small way in the interest now.
Of course I agree, that it is entirely personal matter as to whether she is regarded as an icon/legend etc: just as it is a personal matter as to whether she is regarded otherwise - and discussion shouldn't be stifled because not all opinions marry up.
If anything, as sad as this is for her parents and those who knew her personally - the one good thing (if it could ever be called that) - is Mitch's idea (reportedly - in case I'm accused of wild allegations!) of using monies from a poss 3rd album of unpublished songs to fund an addictions/rehab centre or suchlike. and in that case, the publicity surrounding her death will aid promotion of such a worthwhile cause.
That's the thing though. Whilst there is no need for the public to be informed of the ins and outs - because Amy led such a public life, and in the way that she did over the past years (for it has been that, and not her music/record sales that have kept her in the public eye) - that naturally leads to public interest -whether rightly so or not.
Exactly, when was the "public" NOT interested in the sudden deaths of high profile "celebrities" ..... :idc:
That's the thing though. Whilst there is no need for the public to be informed of the ins and outs - because Amy led such a public life, and in the way that she did over the past years (for it has been that, and not her music/record sales that have kept her in the public eye) - that naturally leads to public interest -whether rightly so or not.
It is the very way in which she - and her father with his 'tv show' and riding on her coat tails, lent themselves to being in the spotlight - that has contributed in no small way in the interest now.
Of course I agree, that it is entirely personal matter as to whether she is regarded as an icon/legend etc: just as it is a personal matter as to whether she is regarded otherwise - and discussion shouldn't be stifled because not all opinions marry up.
If anything, as sad as this is for her parents and those who knew her personally - the one good thing (if it could ever be called that) - is Mitch's idea (reportedly - in case I'm accused of wild allegations!) of using monies from a poss 3rd album of unpublished songs to fund an addictions/rehab centre or suchlike. and in that case, the publicity surrounding her death will aid promotion of such a worthwhile cause.
I have had no respect for her father in the past, however he now as a lifetime to reflect over his actions and to whether this contributed or not to his daughters destructive lifestyle. As parents we will always find a way to blame everything on ourselves what we should/shouldn't/could have done, and I am sure this will haunt him forever. As to Amy's lifestyle, well whatever to blame, she has paid the ultimate price, with that the public/press should draw a line under the negative aspect and as you say concentrate on the positive of possibly helping other young people going the same direction. Like Jade Goddy's illness and death did for other females awareness. There is every point in drawing from the positive and none in drawing from the negative.
The public's obsession with dirt and scandal, whether true or not, I don't think they really care, is why the press stoop so low to gain their stories. So there's really no point in them then complaining that its not ethical
Pyramid*
01-08-2011, 10:27 AM
Exactly, when was the "public" NOT interested in the sudden deaths of high profile "celebrities" ..... :idc:
Not quite sure why you've put "celebrities" in inverted commas. I think it's fair to say that Amy was more than a celebrity - let's be fair here Omah.
Exactly, when was the "public" NOT interested in the sudden deaths of high profile "celebrities" ..... :idc:
I was very interested and stunned to hear of Amy's death, its all the stupid sh*** that inevitably follows that is pointless and this obsession of scandal and gossip. And tbh it wouldn't matter if she were Mother Teresa, bad stuff would inferred because people need to feed their lives with the knowledge that the rich, famous etc are all suffering disfunctional wrecks, it makes them feel better
Pyramid*
01-08-2011, 10:33 AM
I have had no respect for her father in the past, however he now as a lifetime to reflect over his actions and to whether this contributed or not to his daughters destructive lifestyle. As parents we will always find a way to blame everything on ourselves what we should/shouldn't/could have done, and I am sure this will haunt him forever. As to Amy's lifestyle, well whatever to blame, she has paid the ultimate price, with that the public/press should draw a line under the negative aspect and as you say concentrate on the positive of possibly helping other young people going the same direction. Like Jade Goddy's illness and death did for other females awareness. There is every point in drawing from the positive and none in drawing from the negative.
The public's obsession with dirt and scandal, whether true or not, I don't think they really care, is why the press stoop so low to gain their stories. So there's really no point in them then complaining that its not ethical
The point of the matter is: 27 year old women don't tend to drop dead suddenly.
The manner in which Amy completely and utterly abused her body in recent years will no doubt have been a contributory factor - given her own health conditions (emphesyma).
with respect to the media: it came in very handy did it not when she was on her way up, and Mitch certainly used it to his advantage. people can't have their cake and eat it. They courted publicity, this is the downside of it: unsavoury as it is.
What good can come out of it? As a very sorry but harsh lesson to everyone who thinks that an overload of drugs and drink are 'cool' . If ever there was a lesson to be learned: this is it.
27 remember. We will never know but I'm pretty sure if she'd led a less drug and drink fuelled life in the past few years: she'd still be alive. That's my reckoning.
If this type of death / story stops one person from entering the type of lifestyle that Amy led latterly - far as I am concerned, that's one life saved and that more justifies.
Pyramid*
01-08-2011, 10:35 AM
I was very interested and stunned to hear of Amy's death, its all the stupid sh*** that inevitably follows that is pointless and this obsession of scandal and gossip. And tbh it wouldn't matter if she were Mother Teresa, bad stuff would inferred because people need to feed their lives with the knowledge that the rich, famous etc are all suffering disfunctional wrecks, it makes them feel better
Not all rich and famous all suffereing disfunctional wrecks.
Amy however, was. No matter how hard that is to digest. It is true.
Pyramid I respect your viewpoint and reasons for it, although it is not the same is mine. You do however, always analise from facts and I respect that. I'm going to bow out of this thread, simply for the reason as Omah say's it has been more active than Amy's tribute thread, therefore my opinions only add to the negativity over Amy's death. If I post, it will be on the tribute thread:hugesmile:
Pyramid*
01-08-2011, 10:53 AM
Pyramid I respect your viewpoint and reasons for it, although it is not the same is mine. You do however, always analise from facts and I respect that. I'm going to bow out of this thread, simply for the reason as Omah say's it has been more active than Amy's tribute thread, therefore my opinions only add to the negativity over Amy's death. If I post, it will be on the tribute thread:hugesmile:
Likewise: I have nothing but respect for you and for your posts - here and elsewhere. I understand where you are coming from and I understand why. It's one of those subjects that people feel passionately about and it's not the easiest on the heart or soul - either way.
Not quite sure why you've put "celebrities" in inverted commas. I think it's fair to say that Amy was more than a celebrity - let's be fair here Omah.
I used inverted commas to generalise - "celebrities" may include Elvis to Amy, Princess Diana to Jade Goody, James Dean to River Phoenix, etc, etc, etc .....
:)
I was very interested and stunned to hear of Amy's death, its all the stupid sh*** that inevitably follows that is pointless and this obsession of scandal and gossip. And tbh it wouldn't matter if she were Mother Teresa, bad stuff would inferred because people need to feed their lives with the knowledge that the rich, famous etc are all suffering disfunctional wrecks, it makes them feel better
Indeed, many do ..... ;)
Pyramid*
01-08-2011, 11:47 AM
I used inverted commas to generalise - "celebrities" may include Elvis to Amy, Princess Diana to Jade Goody, James Dean to River Phoenix, etc, etc, etc .....
:)
Elvis was far more than a celebrity and it's absurd for you to use that as comparison.
Princess Diana was part of the Royal Family - a whole different ball game. Not a known drugs user or heavy drinker as far as I recall.
James Dean was reknown in the acting world.
I don't think you are comparing on any favourable (or fair) level Omah. TBH, I'm starting to dislike the manner in which you are trying to turn this thread: from a discussion thread into a 'tit for tat' one. It comes across (imo) as you doing more gloating than discussing. I did agree with your comments regarding the 'view count' but given the posts you are putting up since that point, as I say, I'm not entirely convinced it is discussion you want.
Sorry Omah, you may not be gloating - all I am saying is that is the way I am seeing how your posts may be coming across.
Crimson Dynamo
01-08-2011, 01:00 PM
I was very interested and stunned to hear of Amy's death, its all the stupid sh*** that inevitably follows that is pointless and this obsession of scandal and gossip. And tbh it wouldn't matter if she were Mother Teresa, bad stuff would inferred because people need to feed their lives with the knowledge that the rich, famous etc are all suffering disfunctional wrecks, it makes them feel better
that is exactly what AW was
so your point is kind of whack
Elvis was far more than a celebrity and it's absurd for you to use that as comparison.
Princess Diana was part of the Royal Family - a whole different ball game. Not a known drugs user or heavy drinker as far as I recall.
James Dean was reknown in the acting world.
I don't think you are comparing on any favourable (or fair) level Omah. TBH, I'm starting to dislike the manner in which you are trying to turn this thread: from a discussion thread into a 'tit for tat' one. It comes across (imo) as you doing more gloating than discussing. I did agree with your comments regarding the 'view count' but given the posts you are putting up since that point, as I say, I'm not entirely convinced it is discussion you want.
Sorry Omah, you may not be gloating - all I am saying is that is the way I am seeing how your posts may be coming across.
It seems to ME that you are being personal, judgemental and patronising ..... tut, tut ..... :nono:
I note that YOUR post count on this thread is higher than mine, in fact, highest, of all ..... and, given that most of my posts are links and yours are opinions, you are coming across as a bit of a bully ..... :shocked:
Pyramid*
01-08-2011, 03:24 PM
It seems to me that you are being personal, judgemental and patronising ..... tut, tut ..... :nono:
No. I'm being very honest Omah. It seems you are more interested in putting up newspaper articles than actully debating. That doesn't require me to be personal, judgmental or patronising - I said that it comes across as you gloating. I didn't say you were - it is however, how it appears to come across to me. That's my opinion on your posts of late
No. I'm being very honest Omah. It seems you are more interested in putting up newspaper articles than actully debating. That doesn't require me to be personal, judgmental or patronising - I said that it comes across as you gloating. I didn't say you were - it is however, how it appears to come across to me. That's my opinion on your posts of late
You are, of course, entitled to an opinion ..... :shrug:
Pyramid*
01-08-2011, 03:37 PM
It seems to ME that you are being personal, judgemental and patronising ..... tut, tut ..... :nono:
I note that YOUR post count on this thread is higher than mine, in fact, highest, of all ..... and, given that most of my posts are links and yours are opinions, you are coming across as a bit of a bully ..... :shocked:
. I've contributed plenty to this thread - by way of discussion - not just chucking up newspaper articles. That's not bulllying either - that's a fact.
Yeah..bullies tend to say things like this: Get a grip Omah
Sorry Omah, you may not be gloating - all I am saying is that is the way I am seeing how your posts may be coming across.
Callum
01-08-2011, 03:39 PM
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a332591/aisleyne-horgan-wallace-i-was-banned-from-amy-winehouse-funeral.html
Jeez, what a "meeja-ho" - we haven't heard of her since her "fashion-empire" went t1t$-up then AHW comes craking out of the woodwork claiming a "special" relationship with AW ..... :rolleyes:
Love how she's such a friend that she's talking to the papers and going on TV for a fee to talk about her.
Pyramid*
01-08-2011, 03:46 PM
Love how she's such a friend that she's talking to the papers and going on TV for a fee to talk about her.
I cant stand Kelly Osbourne, but kudos to her for saying the same thing about the whole thing. Grief and bereavement is usually a private affair - and good for Kelly for showing this wannabe up for what she is.
Previously .....
Amy Winehouse was adopting girl of 10
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/07/31/amy-winehouse-was-adopting-girl-of-10-115875-23309601/#ixzz1ThuCpZTR
but apparently .....
http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/01/winehouse-rep-amy-was-not-going-to-adopt/
The Sunday Mirror reported Dannika Augustine and her grandmother both confirmed that Amy was about to begin the adoption process ... and both of Dannika's parents had signed off on the plan.
But Amy's rep tells TMZ ... "It's not true" ... adding, "I think [Amy] might have met her in St. Lucia, but she was in no way about to adopt her."
Ah, right ..... :idc:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2021320/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Lady-Gaga-devastated-speak-48-hours.html#ixzz1TouZvU3t
'I couldn't speak for 48 hours'
The Judas singer appeared on The View chat show, which aired in the U.S. earlier today, and spoke of her grief, even though she never met the Back to Black singer.
She told the panel: ‘I am just so devastated and so sad and I really could not speak for 48 hours straight I was in such shock.’
She told the ladies of the ABC panel: ‘I think the most unfortunate thing about it all is the way that the media spins things, like we can learn from Amy's death.
‘I don't feel that Amy needed to learn any lessons. I felt that the lesson was for the world to be kinder to the superstar. Everybody was so hard on her, and everything that I knew about her was that she was the most lovely and nice and kind woman.’
Lady Gaga, who is currently on a promotional tour for her new single, spoke about Amy just last week on Omaha 94.1 Radio during an interview where she revealed "she was often mistaken for the soul singer" before she herself found fame.
Had never met her, but knew all about her ..... :rolleyes:
Redway
01-08-2011, 11:13 PM
:(
Shaun
01-08-2011, 11:34 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2021320/Amy-Winehouse-dead-Lady-Gaga-devastated-speak-48-hours.html#ixzz1TouZvU3t
'I couldn't speak for 48 hours'
Had never met her, but knew all about her ..... :rolleyes:
"everything I knew about her" =/= "I knew everything about her". I honestly think you're clutching at straws to try and make those grieving seem insignificant or silly. I'd rather have respectful things to say about someone I didn't personally know than post 10 gossip stories slandering them.
"everything I knew about her" =/= "I knew everything about her". I honestly think you're clutching at straws to try and make those grieving seem insignificant or silly. I'd rather have respectful things to say about someone I didn't personally know than post 10 gossip stories slandering them.
I don't have to try and make those grieving (sic) seem insignificant or silly - they make themselves look ridiculous ..... ;)
AFAIK, gossip, once written, may be "libel" but not "slander" ..... :nono:
Shaun
02-08-2011, 02:25 AM
I don't think someone whose sole purpose is to post every Daily Mail story on TiBB can call someone ridiculous, Omah.
I don't think someone whose sole purpose is to post every Daily Mail story on TiBB can call someone ridiculous, Omah.
Your references are inaccurate ..... :idc:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3727421/Tragic-Amy-Winehouse-was-secretly-engaged-to-Reg-Traviss.html
AMY Winehouse and boyfriend Reg Traviss secretly got engaged weeks before her death.
Reg, 35, gave ecstatic singer Amy, 27, a diamond ring.
And she agreed to marry Reg without a moment's hesitation - because she so desperately wanted to put her wild lifestyle behind her.
Well, I'm gobsmacked ..... :eek:
This revelation on top of :
http://www.people.co.uk/celebs-tv/celebrities/2011/07/31/amy-winehouse-s-close-friend-aisleyne-horgan-wallace-reveals-the-star-dreamed-of-marrying-boyfriend-reg-102039-23309026/
In stark contrast to the star’s public hell-raising drink-and-drugs image, Aisleyne revealed how Amy…
LOVED watching Channel 4’s teatime word game Countdown.
LIKED to pop round to her local takeaway for a spicy kebab and chips.
ENJOYED having a cosy cup of tea with her mates and a nap in the afternoon.
LAVISHED her love on up to five kittens.
SANG like an angel while she did the housework.
It seems like Amy was really Miss Goody Two-Shoes ..... :flower:
Pyramid*
02-08-2011, 09:08 AM
Omah. Well done.
You've turned this discussion thread into an incredibly boring, flat, deadpan 'news' bulletin update thread - all we're going to get is you cutting and pasting every single goddam thing that has been ever been printed.
Jordan.
02-08-2011, 09:35 AM
Omah. Well done.
You've turned this discussion thread into an incredibly boring, flat, deadpan 'news' bulletin update thread - all we're going to get is you cutting and pasting every single goddam thing that has been ever been printed.
I said this days ago....
Omah. Well done.
You've turned this discussion thread into an incredibly boring, flat, deadpan 'news' bulletin update thread - all we're going to get is you cutting and pasting every single goddam thing that has been ever been printed.
Frankly, if I didn't update it and you refrained from using it as a high horse, it would disappear ...... :rolleyes:
Number of posts in thread -700, Pyramid* 84, Omah 78 ..... :laugh2:
Pyramid*
02-08-2011, 09:49 AM
I said this days ago....
*makes note to self to listen to Jordan from now on*
Frankly, if I didn't update it and you refrained from using it as a high horse, it would disappear ...... :rolleyes:
No high horse here Omah. Just stating facts. I like you Omah - but you've done a pretty good job of killing this thread just about. I leave you to your endless pasting of every possible article written.
*makes note to self to listen to Jordan from now on*
No high horse here Omah. Just stating facts. I like you Omah - but you've done a pretty good job of killing this thread just about. I leave you to your endless pasting of every possible article written.
OK ..... :wavey:
http://www.metro.co.uk/showbiz/871142-amy-winehouse-tributes-removed-but-camden-square-sign-remains-for-now#ixzz1TteryIta
Tributes to the late Amy Winehouse have now been cleared from outside her north London home but Camden Council have decided to leave the road signs covered in fans’ messages up for the time being.
The area surrounding Amy’s £2.5million flat quickly turned into a shine in the days following the 27-year old’s tragic death.
Grieving fans poured into the area leaving floral tributes, messages, photographs, candles and even - perhaps as a fitting tribute to the star who battled alcohol and drugs during her career - empty bottles of wine and beer cans.
Road signs in the square were also covered with scrawled messages from her supporters wanting to pay their last respects to the Rehab singer.
Although street cleaners arrived this morning to remove virtually every trace of tributes to Amy, Camden Council has decided to leave the road signs covered in writing as they are - but they have warned the messages will be removed in time when it comes to cleaning the square.
A spokesman told metro.co.uk: 'Officers have inspected Camden Square and agreed that the signage is still readable. As there have been no official complaints from residents on this matter, the signs will remain for the short term during this sensitive time.
‘When it is decided that they will be cleaned, this will take place as part of routine sign maintenance in the borough, with costs being covered by the standard budget for this service.'
As well as explaining that cards and other items would be passed on to Amy's family, it read: 'With the approval of the Winehouse family and her management company, from 2 August 2011, flowers and tributes in and around Camden Square will be removed by Camden Council.'
As removal vans turned up to Camden Square this morning, flowers that were still alive were taken to distribute around the care homes of Camden, while the dead bouquets are to be composted at Waterlow Park. Any remaining bottles were recycled.
Good for Camden ..... :)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/08/03/amy-winehouse-police-search-cctv-for-clues-to-final-hours-115875-23316117/#ixzz1TvE44GOf
CCTV footage around Amy Winehouse’s home is being analysed for her movements the night before her death.
Detectives want to know whether she left her house in her final hours.
It comes as they quizzed Tony Azzopardi yesterday after he claimed the singer begged him to help her buy crack and heroin the night before she died.
A source said: “There are enough cameras in the area to get a picture of her movements. It’s a painstaking operation which involves going through tens of hours of footage.”
Police spoke to Azzopardi, 56, at Holborn station at 12.30pm yesterday, where he was questioned for 30 minutes about 27-year-old Amy’s death. He is due to meet detectives again today for another interview. Scotland Yard said there had been no arrests linked to Amy’s death.
There's no escape from the bliddy CCTV ..... :nono:
http://travel.aol.co.uk/2011/08/03/amy-winehouses-family-planning-holiday-to-mourn-her-death/
Amy Winehouse's family, including her boyfriend Reg Traviss, are reportedly planning a 10-day holiday to mourn the singer's death - as well as celebrate her life.
Reg will join Amy's father Mitch, stepmother Jane, and brother Alex in the journey, which they hope will help them come to terms with her untimely and tragic death.
It will also give them a break from the North London borough Camden, where fans have erected a massive memorial outside the star's home.
A source told The Sun: 'The family feel they want to grieve properly out of the limelight. Being in Camden constantly is proving too painful for them – they need time to themselves.'
But Amy's family also plan to enjoy the break and hope to make the vacation a 'celebration' of the her life.
The insider added: 'They will celebrate Amy's life and share their most treasured stories of her.'
Perhaps St Lucia would be a fitting place to go. The locals took really took to the star when she stayed on the Caribbean island for a few months in 2009.
Saint Lucia's minister of tourism and civil aviation senator Allen Chastanet even issued a statement expressing his deep sadness at her death. He said: 'We have lost a good friend and the world has lost a great talent.'
Recalling the singer's generosity towards local residents, minister Chastanet said: 'We were fortunate to see another side of Amy, and will be forever grateful for the acts of kindness and compassion she extended to less fortunate Saint Lucians during her visits with us.
'Saint Lucians join me in extending our condolences to Amy's family, friends and fans during this difficult period.'
Another side of Amy ?
Not towards other guests :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2127807.ece
Published: 14 Jan 2009
WASTED AMY WINEHOUSE is reduced to crawling up to holidaymakers and grabbing their drinks - after fed-up resort staff refused to serve her. The sneaky singer also BEGS guests to order booze for her at the all-inclusive Caribbean resort.
Each day seems to start with good intentions as she limbers up with yoga-style stretches before swinging into action on exercise rings.But by lunchtime bikini-clad Amy is relaxing with a drink on the beach or even openly smoking joints by the pool.
Come nightfall and she is hitting the bottle with pals - despite the booze ban agreed by her management and staff. A source at the £200-a-night resort said: "We keep catching her crawling past bars, or hiding behind chairs. She grabs guests' drinks and runs off, like a squirrel with a nut."
The Rehab star also baffles guests with her mood swings. One said: "One minute she is very pleasant, saying, 'All right darlin' and chatting to people and having photos taken. The next she is throwing things and swearing her head off. During a fight with a friend Amy tore off long acrylic nails she had fitted. She came up with her fingers bleeding and asked for a cotton bud."
Amy, 25, was said to drape herself over male guests and staff - despite repeatedly insisting she still loves jailbird hubby BLAKE FIELDER-CIVIL, 26. Workers even claimed to have found her in a late-night clinch on steps with a man believed to be clean-cut British holidaymaker JOSH BOWMAN, 21, who has since left.
Amy's management have now hired a 6ft 6ins minder to keep her in line - but to little effect. She was spotted creeping up behind one woman, asking for a cigarette and then sprinting away with her cocktail.
Another guest said: "She's like a child craving attention. It's embarrassing. She comes in for dinner barefoot and in her bikini, even though the dress code is smart casual. Then she will go and sit on her balcony topless playing the guitar when everyone is trying to sleep."
But Amy - who has extended her two-week stay for another TWO MONTHS - was overheard on her mobile reassuring her father Mitch, 57: "I've been eating well and I feel great. I've only had a few drinks, Dad - honest."
Sounds like the "same" side of Amy to me .....
Anyway, maybe the family will go somewhere else .....
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/08/05/amy-winehouse-s-last-night-of-booze-singer-partied-wildly-days-before-death-115875-23320933/#ixzz1U6sY8Mtm
It emerged yesterday that Winehouse fans have stolen four street signs that were intended to be gifts for the dead star’s bereaved parents.
Hundreds of tributes had been scrawled on the Camden Square posts by well-wishers. The local council intended to replace them and give the old ones to Mitch and her mother Janis.
But before they had a chance the thieves removed them from the square.
A fifth sign was saved from being stolen by an alert security guard watching the house.
Not entirely unexpected ..... :rolleyes:
Glenn.
05-08-2011, 12:39 AM
I'm pissed off with hearing about Amy Winehouse. When are people going to get it through their thick heads? She did to herself. Its something her deluded fans can't grasp.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3734658/Amy-Winehouses-Camden-home-to-be-rehab-HQ.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News
AMY Winehouse's home is to become the HQ of her rehab charity.
The tragic singer's loved ones believe it "makes sense" for the £2.5million property in Camden, North London, to be the focal point of the new Amy Winehouse Foundation.
It will be boosted by profits from a new single Amy, 27, made with music legend Tony Bennett.
The foundation will boost a wide range of "causes close to her heart", the singer's dad Mitch has revealed.
He said: "It could include help for children in trouble, kids suffering health problems, children's hospices and more.
"We want to make a positive difference."
The foundation will be run from Amy's home where she was found dead a fortnight ago.
Mitch, Amy's record label Universal and her management team all agree it is the perfect place.
Though the charity will run separately from ex-cabbie Mitch's campaign to help young drug addicts, it is also expected to be involved in rehab projects.
The Winehouse family did discuss selling the ten-room, three-storey property.
But a source close to them said: "They think it's too precious to give up, hence the new HQ idea.
"They don't want to rent it out and if they sold it they think it could attract the wrong kind of buyer as it was where Amy passed away. They may sell one day but that would be some way off."
I have no doubt that someone will be making big bucks out of this enterprise ..... :rolleyes:
Echoes of Goody's trustees :
"It's what she would have wanted"
:suspect"
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3734658/Amy-Winehouses-Camden-home-to-be-rehab-HQ.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News
AMY Winehouse's home is to become the HQ of her rehab charity.
The tragic singer's loved ones believe it "makes sense" for the £2.5million property in Camden, North London, to be the focal point of the new Amy Winehouse Foundation.
It will be boosted by profits from a new single Amy, 27, made with music legend Tony Bennett.
The foundation will boost a wide range of "causes close to her heart", the singer's dad Mitch has revealed.
He said: "It could include help for children in trouble, kids suffering health problems, children's hospices and more.
"We want to make a positive difference."
The foundation will be run from Amy's home where she was found dead a fortnight ago.
Mitch, Amy's record label Universal and her management team all agree it is the perfect place.
Though the charity will run separately from ex-cabbie Mitch's campaign to help young drug addicts, it is also expected to be involved in rehab projects.
The Winehouse family did discuss selling the ten-room, three-storey property.
But a source close to them said: "They think it's too precious to give up, hence the new HQ idea.
"They don't want to rent it out and if they sold it they think it could attract the wrong kind of buyer as it was where Amy passed away. They may sell one day but that would be some way off."
I have no doubt that someone will be making big bucks out of this enterprise ..... :rolleyes:
Echoes of Goody's trustees :
"It's what she would have wanted"
:suspect:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/204597/Gaga-to-play-Winehouse/
LADY GaGa is in secret talks to play Amy Winehouse in a film about the singer’s tragic life.
Hollywood movie moguls want to capitalise on the global outpouring of grief following her death on July 23. LA producers think outrageous pop phenomenon GaGa would be perfect in the starring role.
A Hollywood insider said: “Lady GaGa worshipped Amy and would love nothing more than to transform herself into her idol on the big screen. She’d be spot on performing Amy’s songs and has got the right look and bolshy attitude. GaGa’s been itching to make the transition from music into movies and sees this as the ideal role to launch her film career.”
It has been reported that after completing her nearly two-year long Monster Ball world tour, the Poker Face singer, 25, was inundated with film scripts. However, she has been waiting for the perfect part. Our insider said: “GaGa’s management team had been discussing possible film ventures before Amy’s untimely death. But there’s only ever been one role she wants and that’s to play Amy.”
Money talks ..... ;)
Smithy
05-08-2011, 03:03 PM
does anyone else get really annoyed when omah hijacks someone else's thread and just post endless news reports that noone gives a **** about?
Ninastar
05-08-2011, 03:13 PM
yeah i hate it. was gunna post some sarcastic comment about how respectful this thread was but I was too tired
Yeah, considering Omah doesn't even like Winehouse and has spend this whole thread trying to disprove anyone who claimed she was a talented musician, I don't know why he's still feeling some kind of obligation to post every article under the sun about her 2 weeks after her death
Could it be closed now and fans post in the tribute thread?
Shaun
05-08-2011, 04:01 PM
i don't even care if i get an infraction but he's a ****ing tragic bore with no life. not up for discussion. fact.
Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2011, 04:53 PM
i don't even care if i get an infraction but he's a ****ing tragic bore with no life. not up for discussion. fact.
you only let yourself down by silly posts like that
:bored:
Yeah, considering Omah doesn't even like Winehouse and has spend this whole thread trying to disprove anyone who claimed she was a talented musician, I don't know why he's still feeling some kind of obligation to post every article under the sun about her 2 weeks after her death
I believe you exaggerate my objective, my proficiency and my achievement ..... :laugh2:
Could it be closed now and fans post in the tribute thread?
Erm, hardly anybody wants to post in the "Tribute" thread - ir's only got 114 posts ..... :rolleyes:
CharlieO
05-08-2011, 05:12 PM
GaGa sponging off her death :bored:
i don't even care if i get an infraction but he's a ****ing tragic bore with no life. not up for discussion. fact.
Who, me ?
:conf:
Zippy
05-08-2011, 05:14 PM
I'm pissed off with hearing about Amy Winehouse. When are people going to get it through their thick heads? She did to herself. Its something her deluded fans can't grasp.
Deluded fans? I think you'll find that we don't really care too much about who is responsible at this point.
Why do you even care about her doing it to herself? So you can say she deserved it?
And try avoiding her two threads if you're really sick of her. Not difficult. Posting a bored smiley on her tribute thread was pretty low and unnecessary.
Niamh.
05-08-2011, 05:55 PM
Thread closed as it only seems to be causing arguments.
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