Ease up on the HM abuse.

[Tom4784]

It's okay to dislike a HM and say so but hold back on the childish name calling and the like please. It's making the forum look pretty cheap and very pathetic. To be so emotionally invested in a show to think that such abuse is justified is worrying. Nobody will get infracted for insulting a HM unless it's stupidly offensive but just keep it in mind because I every time come into the BB12 forum I cringe at the behavior of forum members.

Coming up with childish nicknames for your least liked HM does not make you look witty, it makes you look limited, immature and ultimately quite sad and it's making the forum look like that too. Try to hold back some of the vitriol please people.

[Scream]

yeah.

[Patrick]

It's okay to dislike a HM and say so but hold back on the childish name calling and the like please. It's making the forum look pretty cheap and very pathetic. To be so emotionally invested in a show to think that such abuse is justified is worrying. Nobody will get infracted for insulting a HM unless it's stupidly offensive but just keep it in mind because I every time come into the BB12 forum I cringe at the behavior of forum members.

Coming up with childish nicknames for your least liked HM does not make you look witty, it makes you look limited, immature and ultimately quite sad and it's making the forum look like that too. Try to hold back some of the vitriol please people.

The forum's default theme is Winter Wonderland and it's Homepage is a mess.

It needs no help on looking cheap and tacky.

And it's not our fault, it's a Big Brother forum - some of us are more into the show than others and do get caught up with it, alot and feel passionate about the series - I agree with what you're saying though it is VERY childish when people come up with little nicknames for housemates they don't like, especially when the nicknames don't even make sense.

But at the end of the day, I think Mods should be more concerned about certain members insulting BB fans - just because they 'don't like the new era' it's ridiculous and it happened alot in CBB8, it may of calmed down now but it's still there, the amount of negativity on this forum from so called 'fans' revolving the show is a disgrace.

And If I were a new member who just joined, THAT alone would be enough to drive me away - because it's really hard trying to discuss the show when you've got other members laughing at you and calling the show pathetic and just trolling constantly.

[The Human Santapede]

The forum's default theme is Winter Wonderland and it's Homepage is a mess.

It needs no help on looking cheap and tacky.

And it's not our fault, it's a Big Brother forum - some of us are more into the show than others and do get caught up with it, alot and feel passionate about the series - I agree with what you're saying though it is VERY childish when people come up with little nicknames for housemates they don't like, especially when the nicknames don't even make sense.

But at the end of the day, I think Mods should be more concerned about certain members insulting BB fans - just because they 'don't like the new era' it's ridiculous and it happened alot in CBB8, it may of calmed down now but it's still there, the amount of negativity on this forum from so called 'fans' revolving the show is a disgrace.

And If I were a new member who just joined, THAT alone would be enough to drive me away - because it's really hard trying to discuss the show when you've got other members laughing at you and calling the show pathetic and just trolling constantly.



The same can be said for some of your rants Patrick and your rude little quips. Not very awe inspiring or welcoming to new members and current members of the site. There is being passionate and then there is being aggressive.

[Tom4784]

The forum's default theme is Winter Wonderland and it's Homepage is a mess.

It needs no help on looking cheap and tacky.

And it's not our fault, it's a Big Brother forum - some of us are more into the show than others and do get caught up with it, alot and feel passionate about the series - I agree with what you're saying though it is VERY childish when people come up with little nicknames for housemates they don't like, especially when the nicknames don't even make sense.

But at the end of the day, I think Mods should be more concerned about certain members insulting BB fans - just because they 'don't like the new era' it's ridiculous and it happened alot in CBB8, it may of calmed down now but it's still there, the amount of negativity on this forum from so called 'fans' revolving the show is a disgrace.

And If I were a new member who just joined, THAT alone would be enough to drive me away - because it's really hard trying to discuss the show when you've got other members laughing at you and calling the show pathetic and just trolling constantly.

The attitude of some forum members is a bigger problem then the forum's appearance and as mods we can't change anything about the appearance of the site but we can do something about troublesome members.

As for your concerns, people who insult others are punished, they might not always be banned because they might not have amassed enough points beforehand to cross over into an automatic ban. The best thing to do if you encounter this behavior is to report it.

[Patrick]

The same can be said for some of your rants Patrick and your rude little quips. Not very awe inspiring or welcoming to new members and current members of the site. There is being passionate and then there is being aggressive.

I stopped that months ago, I only be aggressive to people if they have a problem with me.

[Vicky.]

But at the end of the day, I think Mods should be more concerned about certain members insulting BB fans - just because they 'don't like the new era' it's ridiculous and it happened alot in CBB8, it may of calmed down now but it's still there, the amount of negativity on this forum from so called 'fans' revolving the show is a disgrace.

And If I were a new member who just joined, THAT alone would be enough to drive me away - because it's really hard trying to discuss the show when you've got other members laughing at you and calling the show pathetic and just trolling constantly.

I have not seen this. I have seen certain members going from thread to threa moaning about the series though (even though some claim not to even watch the show) but there is nothing that could, or should be done to people who just do not like the show. If they do resort to insults though, report it. I know how annoying it is to see the same people bleating on about faults 24/7, but they ARE entitled to a negative opinion. I don't quite understand it myself like, if I didnt like a show, I just wouldnt watch it. Not watch it just to find things to moan about, but I guess some people are wired differently to me.

New members are usually driven away because of other FMs insulting them for various reasons, most of all. You forget we do know quite a bit about this because usually if someone leaves(usually people with a couple of posts, not older members who tend to make a fuss on the main boards instead), we get PMs/emails about it and they say things like how unwelcome they were made to feel. I have yet to see a message saying someone has left because there were people on here that dont like BB.

Obviously everyone will like/dislike different housemates and express their opinions on those housemates. But this message was more for the fair few members who seem to ONLY spout hate. They have begun insulting fans of the housmates they dislike, making up silly names for them, and pretty much just hopping from thread to thread spouting venom. Now, I do love a good bitch about someone I dislike, but I know when to drop it, as do most members. No way would I sit for hours just posting the same venom over and over and pretty much coming across as if foaming at the mouth. I would rather spread my time between having a conversation about someone I dislike, and a one about someone I like. Too much negativity is not good (LOL I just realised I sound like heaven now D: ) I just think sometimes, people need to be reminded to take a deep breath and realise that while the housemates DO put themselves up for criticism the second they enter the house, they ARE still people. And a little restraint is needed at times.

[jtalh2003]

it probably has a bit to do with them trying to attract a younger audience while at the same time alienating a lot of its long term older viewers

[Visage]

because I every time come into the BB12 forum I cringe at the behavior of [Insert word] some [/insert word] forum members.



Surely it's not everyone of us making you cringe...




:wavey:

[Marsh.]

I can't believe what Patrick has just posted. He's the one to kick off an argument of anyone has the slightest negative opinion about the show not just towards the very vocal ones who go on and on. I've slowly come around to this series but even I've been at the receiving end of one of his rounds of "abuse" (for want of a better word) and that certainly did not stop months ago.

Mirror, Patrick. Patrick, mirror.

Although I do agree that the homepage is an absolute mess and the Christmas themed default is pretty ridiculous.

[Locke.]

Half the fun of watching the show is coming on here and arguing with people about their favourite housemates..

But it's ok, most the insults will stop when the little cave troll Alex is evicted

[Marsh.]

Aww, I think Alex is most likely to make the final at this stage. Well, Alex and Aaron.

[Adamw92]

Half the fun of watching the show is coming on here and arguing with people about their favourite housemates..

But it's ok, most the insults will stop when the little cave troll Alex is evicted

Alex isn't going anywhere anytime soon :nono:

[Kazanne]

It's okay to dislike a HM and say so but hold back on the childish name calling and the like please. It's making the forum look pretty cheap and very pathetic. To be so emotionally invested in a show to think that such abuse is justified is worrying. Nobody will get infracted for insulting a HM unless it's stupidly offensive but just keep it in mind because I every time come into the BB12 forum I cringe at the behavior of forum members.

Coming up with childish nicknames for your least liked HM does not make you look witty, it makes you look limited, immature and ultimately quite sad and it's making the forum look like that too. Try to hold back some of the vitriol please people.

With respect,weren't you overly scathing about a certain XFactor contestant last year,simply because he dared record a single taken from Biffy Clyro,so much so a couple of people commented on it,saying you had real hate for him,I think most of the banter on here is a bit of fun and harmless,the most offensive ones are the personal insults,I admit when I have been insulted as I see it I answer back ,it's human nature and I dont think that will EVER be wiped out on any forum.Most people on here are really nice that is why I post but I do think one or two have got away with terrible insults.

[Vicky.]

Half the fun of watching the show is coming on here and arguing with people about their favourite housemates..

But it's ok, most the insults will stop when the little cave troll Alex is evicted

:laugh2:

Arguing is fine. Insults are fine(within reason, no death wishs etc) but the problem would come if you decided to go pretty much copy and paste your cave troll comment into EVERY thread about BB. Adding nothing else to any conversation besides childish insults :p

[Chuck]

Patrick's insults towards Alex are getting tedious now. :hmph:

[Ammi]

There are members who appear to comment very little about housemates and seem to post ONLY to insult members whom they dont know :bored:

[Kazanne]

The board seems to have been muzzled.so much for housemates are fair game,makes you almost feel like not posting again.

[Josy]

I agree about the ott hate filled posts being ridiculous and we have pointed out before that even though it's fine to insult a housemate constant posts like that in every thread will get the member doing it warned or infracted, hurling abuse at the hm in every thread adds nothing of value at all imo.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I agree to a certain extent.This forum can be very daunting for a new member like me.But i'm getting the hang of it.Thank god for the ignore option!:worship::worship::worship::worship:

[Josy]

The board seems to have been muzzled.so much for housemates are fair game,makes you almost feel like not posting again.

No the board hasnt been muzzled Kazanne, yeah hms are fair game but over the top hate filled posts are not allowed, and that rule has been there all along it's not as if we decided to add it in there without letting anyone know.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

No the board hasnt been muzzled Kazanne, yeah hms are fair game but over the top hate filled posts are not allowed, and that rule has been there all along it's not as if we decided to add it in there without letting anyone know.

Personal attacks on forum members also shouldn't be allowed,but it happens.I almost quit this forum because i felt targeted all the time.

[Josy]

Personal attacks on forum members also shouldn't be allowed,but it happens.I almost quit this forum because i felt targeted all the time.

Personal attacks on forum members are against the rules, and you should use the report button to inform us of posts like that so they can be sorted out.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Personal attacks on forum members are against the rules, and you should use the report button to inform us of posts like that so they can be sorted out.

I felt bullied to be honest.And that's not a word i use lightly.But i'm using the ignore button from now on.

[Jords]

I actually find the positive nicknames a whole lot more annoying...

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I actually find the positive nicknames a whole lot more annoying...
I think we should call housemates with their correct names.Nicknames are kind of silly.:suspect:

[Vicky.]

Personal attacks on forum members also shouldn't be allowed,but it happens.I almost quit this forum because i felt targeted all the time.

I dont know if you read the rules or not when you signed up, but if not they are here (http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174012)

Anything you feel breaks any of the rules, use the report button :)

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I dont know if you read the rules or not when you signed up, but if not they are here (http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174012)

Anything you feel breaks any of the rules, use the report button :)
Thanks.I just didn't want to make a fuss.:sad:

[Novo]

Can i use any of the following words to describe Alex?

Cave Troll
Ogre
Orc
Goblin

[Kazanne]

No the board hasnt been muzzled Kazanne, yeah hms are fair game but over the top hate filled posts are not allowed, and that rule has been there all along it's not as if we decided to add it in there without letting anyone know.

So how come a Rebecka fan who happens to be a mod,started that thread,would they have done it had it been any other housemate?I can remember being on here and terrible things were said about Charlie Uchea,Jade Goody,Ziggy and a few others,they were all fair game so what is different this time?and imo that one post HAS muzzled the board as people will now feel they cannot post their true feelings,just my opinion though.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

So how come a Rebecka fan who happens to be a mod,started that thread,would they have done it had it been any other housemate?I can remember being on here and terrible things were said about Charlie Uchea,Jade Goody,Ziggy and a few others,they were all fair game so what is different this time?and imo that one post HAS muzzled the board as people will now feel they cannot post their true feelings,just my opinion though.

That's a very good point.Maybe they're just bitter that Rebecca is gone!:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

[Vicky.]

Thanks.I just didn't want to make a fuss.:sad:

Ah don't worry about that. tis what we are here for :p

All the button does is create a new thread in the admin section, asking one of us to go check out the thread :thumbs:

[Vicky.]

And for the record, which housemates staff personally support, has nothing to do with the punishments or whatever that they give out.

And just because one staff member makes a thread, that does not mean that they have just done it off their own back. Infact some of the time, the idea didnt even come from the person who makes the thread.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Ah don't worry about that. tis what we are here for :p

All the button does is create a new thread in the admin section, asking one of us to go check out the thread :thumbs:

I didn't know about the ignore button before.Best thing ever!I love it!:wavey:

[Vicky.]

Deleted some posts in here. Try not to make everything all about 'XXXXs haters' or 'XXXs fans' or whatever. Its very rarely as clear cut as that.

[Marsh.]

Having just visited DS this afternoon, I noticed that their mods have cracked down on the level of insults in forums.

You're not allowed to make criticisms on actors or writers for Tv shows unless you show a case for both sides and make it constructive. lol

So maybe on this forum make it a rule to be constructive. You can call Alex ugly if you please but only if you make suggestions on how she can improve her looks. lol. Joking, obviously.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Deleted some posts in here. Try not to make everything all about 'XXXXs haters' or 'XXXs fans' or whatever. Its very rarely as clear cut as that.

I agree with you.Sometimes a discussion can get heated.It doesn't matter which housemate you support.:)

[Vicky.]

Having just visited DS this afternoon, I noticed that their mods have cracked down on the level of insults in forums.

You're not allowed to make criticisms on actors or writers for Tv shows unless you show a case for both sides and make it constructive. lol

So maybe on this forum make it a rule to be constructive. You can call Alex ugly if you please but only if you make suggestions on how she can improve her looks. lol. Joking, obviously.

Seriously? :laugh:

See. Compared to DS we have pretty much no rules here :p

[Josy]

So how come a Rebecka fan who happens to be a mod,started that thread,would they have done it had it been any other housemate?I can remember being on here and terrible things were said about Charlie Uchea,Jade Goody,Ziggy and a few others,they were all fair game so what is different this time?and imo that one post HAS muzzled the board as people will now feel they cannot post their true feelings,just my opinion though.

I'm sure people can still post their true feelings without going too far with the hatred, it's not as if we are saying you can't say anything bad at all about housemates, I personally don't see why it would be a problem since there is better ways to get a point across than having a post full of starred out swear words detailing how much hatred you have for a housemate but not really contributing anything to the thread topic, also it has nothing do to with who staff members support, other mods including myself have already mentioned in other threads about the disgusting nicknames etc.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Having just visited DS this afternoon, I noticed that their mods have cracked down on the level of insults in forums.

You're not allowed to make criticisms on actors or writers for Tv shows unless you show a case for both sides and make it constructive. lol

So maybe on this forum make it a rule to be constructive. You can call Alex ugly if you please but only if you make suggestions on how she can improve her looks. lol. Joking, obviously.
Really?Alex isn't ugly.She just wears too much make up.:suspect:

[Scream]

I actually find the positive nicknames a whole lot more annoying...

craziimaisyy xx

[Shasown]

:joker:

Thanks.I just didn't want to make a fuss.:sad:

[fingers]

:joker:

I like it!

The Sig. I mean!!!

[Kazanne]

I'm sure people can still post their true feelings without going too far with the hatred, it's not as if we are saying you can't say anything bad at all about housemates, I personally don't see why it would be a problem since there is better ways to get a point across than having a post full of starred out swear words detailing how much hatred you have for a housemate but not really contributing anything to the thread topic, also it has nothing do to with who staff members support, other mods including myself have already mentioned in other threads about the disgusting nicknames etc.

It's not a problem at all,but most of it on here I see as banter,where I do get peed off is when a mod can say horrible things about a contestant but we have to zip it,and how come the 'lads club' can post crude vile things about the women on there but when we say anything derogotary against their fave we are called all sorts?A couple of posters have already left because of this,good posters aswell,perhaps if I open a post with so and sos, got a hudge todger,I may fit in better,gawd Dezzy knows how to empty a room.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

:joker:
:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Tom4784]

With respect,weren't you overly scathing about a certain XFactor contestant last year,simply because he dared record a single taken from Biffy Clyro,so much so a couple of people commented on it,saying you had real hate for him,I think most of the banter on here is a bit of fun and harmless,the most offensive ones are the personal insults,I admit when I have been insulted as I see it I answer back ,it's human nature and I dont think that will EVER be wiped out on any forum.Most people on here are really nice that is why I post but I do think one or two have got away with terrible insults.

I said he was rubbish and overrated and that he was most likely going to flop, which is an opinion. I didn't resort to the petty name calling that some members have taken to on here. If I resorted to calling him a prostitute, cave troll or stupid nicknames then that would have been wrong. That's the difference, don't like a housemate? Fine just don't cross the line with it.

[Kazanne]

I said he was rubbish and overrated and that he was most likely going to flop, which is an opinion. I didn't resort to the petty name calling that some members have taken to on here. If I resorted to calling him a prostitute, cave troll or stupid nicknames then that would have been wrong. That's the difference, don't like a housemate? Fine just don't cross the line with it.

I know what you said,I was on the end of it,I will not argue with you,,it was commented on a few times,some still remember it now,but that is by the by,I for one will not be told what to say or do,I am not a child,shame that the talk about some of the girls is not kept in check,that too is wrong but because it's the 'lads' it's ok,not all of us want to listen to childish smut but we put up with it,I dont disagree that some of the posts are bad,but if someone behaves in a certain way they will get judged and talked about in a derogotary way ,people have their own way of posting about their dislikes,surely that is what a forum is for.

[Vicky.]

I know what you said,I was on the end of it,I will not argue with you,,it was commented on a few times,some still remember it now,but that is by the by,I for one will not be told what to say or do,I am not a child,shame that the talk about some of the girls is not kept in check,that too is wrong but because it's the 'lads' it's ok,not all of us want to listen to childish smut but we put up with it,I dont disagree that some of the posts are bad,but if someone behaves in a certain way they will get judged and talked about in a derogotary way ,people have their own way of posting about their dislikes,surely that is what a forum is for.

Well be that as it may, but when joining the forum, you agreed to following the rules. Same as you would have to anywhere else you chose to talk about the shows. If you chose not to do that, dont moan or be surprised if you get banned.

This is not a threat btw, this thread was never about anyone in particular. But if you are pretty much going to say you will not follow the rules, then you will at some point need to face the consequences unfortunately. Same as everyone else.

[Kazanne]

Well be that as it may, but when joining the forum, you agreed to following the rules. Same as you would have to anywhere else you chose to talk about the shows. If you chose not to do that, dont moan or be surprised if you get banned.

This is not a threat btw, this thread was never about anyone in particular. But if you are pretty much going to say you will not follow the rules, then you will at some point need to face the consequences unfortunately. Same as everyone else.

No worries I am fully expecting it:hugesmile: I have noted the remarks I made about the smutty talk about the girls has not been mentioned,wonder why?

[Vicky.]

No worries I am fully expecting it:hugesmile: I have noted the remarks I made about the smutty talk about the girls has not been mentioned,wonder why?

Because I dont quite understand what you mean by it, and I am currently watching xf while replying to you so I dont want to be writing essays, so I just picked out the bit I could answer easily. I'll come back to this after XF and BB(or maybe during BB) if you like and try to answer anything you want answered :p

[In the Drunk Tank]

I'm not sure why some people are so indignant about this, it does say clearly in the rules that "it is fine to insult housemates, to a certain extent...as long as it is not too over the top"

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I'm not sure why some people are so indignant about this, it does say clearly in the rules that "it is fine to insult housemates, to a certain extent...as long as it is not too over the top"

This Forum is hard.You get attacked and ridiculed simply for having a different opinion.:shocked:

[Tom4784]

I know what you said,I was on the end of it,I will not argue with you,,it was commented on a few times,some still remember it now,but that is by the by,I for one will not be told what to say or do,I am not a child,shame that the talk about some of the girls is not kept in check,that too is wrong but because it's the 'lads' it's ok,not all of us want to listen to childish smut but we put up with it,I dont disagree that some of the posts are bad,but if someone behaves in a certain way they will get judged and talked about in a derogotary way ,people have their own way of posting about their dislikes,surely that is what a forum is for.

The point is that you don't need to go over the top about it, why are you struggling with the concept of not just letting the vitriol fly? You can say you dislike someone I'm just saying reign in the insults a bit.

At the end of the day this isn't something i've dreamed up by myself, the rest of the mods are in agreement with it. If you don't agree with the rules then no one is forcing you to stay, like Vicky said by signing on here you agreed to follow the rules. It's that simple.

[InOne]

This Forum is hard.You get attacked and ridiculed simply for having a different opinion.:shocked:

Keeps you on your toes :D

[In the Drunk Tank]

This Forum is hard.You get attacked and ridiculed simply for having a different opinion.:shocked:

That's not true and whenever it does happen it gets dealt with pretty quickly

[Shasown]

No worries I am fully expecting it:hugesmile: I have noted the remarks I made about the smutty talk about the girls has not been mentioned,wonder why?

A fair amount of the comments about the girls that some would say crossed the lines of decency were in fact from female members.

Seems a lot of females disliked everything about Rebeckah. Probably something to do with showing women at their worst.

Apparently its a girl thing.:devil:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

That's not true and whenever it does happen it gets dealt with pretty quickly

I'm getting so much abuse only for saying my opinion.It's the third time i've been called names in here and i only joined this week.:shocked:

[In the Drunk Tank]

I'm getting so much abuse only for saying my opinion.It's the third time i've been called names in here and i only joined this week.:shocked:

Well that's against the rules, obviously, I can only suggest using the report button to make us aware of it when it does happen

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Well that's against the rules, obviously, I can only suggest using the report button to make us aware of it when it does happen

I've done that, thanks.I think sometimes posters in here cross the line.Personal insults are totally uncalled for.Why can't we just be civil to each other?:conf:

[Marsh.]

Seriously? :laugh:

See. Compared to DS we have pretty much no rules here :p

Yes. I think it was mainly the soaps thread which was constantly full of venom for Eastenders and Coronation Street's executive producers which kicked it off and now they've pinned notices on all the forums.

But, TBH, the reason I've never officially joined DS is because you can get banned for the slightest thing there. lol

[Marsh.]

This Forum is hard.You get attacked and ridiculed simply for having a different opinion.:shocked:

What? I hope you're joking because where exactly in the quote below does it state you're not entitled to an opinion.

to a certain extent...as long as it is not too over the top"

As long as you're mature enough to see the line and not cross it you can vent all you want.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

What? I hope you're joking because where exactly in the quote below does it state you're not entitled to an opinion.



As long as you're mature enough to see the line and not cross it you can vent all you want.
It happened to me a few times already.Thank god for the ignore button.:dance:

[Vicky.]

What? I hope you're joking because where exactly in the quote below does it state you're not entitled to an opinion.
I dont think Vanessa was talking about this thread. I think(going on other posts) she may possibly mean about other things that have happened.



As long as you're mature enough to see the line and not cross it you can vent all you want.

And this is the main point of this thread. Thank you :)

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Yes.It happened basically everyday since i joined.I don't feel very welcome to be honest.:sad:

[Kazanne]

Yes.It happened basically everyday since i joined.I don't feel very welcome to be honest.:sad:

Vanessa you have been a good poster since you joined,dont let a few put you off.

[Parmy]

It's a bit unfair dissing people for slagging of the housemates.

You don't hear anyone having a go about loiuse, faye or maisy...give them a break fgs, it's not us posters fault alex and heaven are munters.

[Kerry]

Is it really so hard to follow the rules?

Is it really so hard to be kindly asked to ease up on some of the more nasty comments and not kick off with yet more and moaning?

It was just a request to keep the forum a little lighter and more welcoming. I will also ask, please do. Thassall

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Vanessa you have been a good poster since you joined,dont let a few put you off.
Awwwwww!Thanks a lot Kazanne! I love your posts too!:blush2::blush2::blush2::blush2:

[Incensed]

Well I think the rules are a little confusing, but it can't be easy keeping us all happy. So I'd just like to say thanks to you all for giving your time and monitoring the site and giving us somewhere to vent our feelings. :)

[Kerry]

The mods and admin are there to monitor the site as they see fit at the time. There are no vendettas. There is no you and us. The rules are there as a guideline and are asked to be respected. I really can't see what is so hard about typing another word other than swearing or giving your opinions without overly abusing anyone

[Vicky.]

Have cleaned this up as well as I can I think.

Please try to keep ontopic.

Also, to clarify some stuff from the deleted posts, if you feel a mod has broken a rule, you can either report them the same way as you would report a member(admin will see the report) or PM an admin directly.

Now, no more offtopic stuff please :)

[joeysteele]

Can I just say without maybe getting wrong for doing so. I try and think in the main I succeed in not insulting anyone, I did hold the view that housemates were fair game in the main but I still tried to refrain from making acidic personal insults to them,I see little need for that.

I therefore welcome these reinforced guidelines,even more so especially if they are applied as rigidly to next years CBB if a certain duo was to again go in the CBB house.

I got, and felt and knew I got a lot of personal ridicule and insults during the last 2 weeks of CBB,myself and others.
So I am glad this guideline has been highlighted as if they were to go into CBB next year I had decided that during CBB,I would not post on here or even look on here while they were in due to the personal abuse I got this year.

I still tried not to insult anyone despite getting so myself from many all at once, along with others too. What I like about this guideline is that it has been stated it applies to housemates too,so hopefully those of us who feel strongly as to a certain duo for instance, will hopefully, because this guideline is being reinforced,not have to race to defend again acidic and vitriolic attacks on not only the duo themselves but we who are members who are fans of them too.

I therefore personally am glad this guideline has been highlighted and reinforced as I was physically and mentally drained by the end of CBB.I see it as a good and positive move.

By the way Vanessa, I think you make really great posts and hope these guidelines will help you feel more welcome on here.
There is a massive amount that is good on this forum and only a very small bit that isn't.

[Merry Mockmas]

TBF I only have ever slagged off Rebeckah and Aden though Joey,I have never slagged off there fans.

And Jedward were called twincest and Incest and Autistic which are far worse than Ardick,Prostitute,Slut and Slag Imo.

[Kerry]

The thread is NOT aimed at any one single person. I'm not sure why people have got so defensive.

We've all slated HM's in the past. It simply has been noted that this year it's gone OTT and a mod chose to say so

Now, go play...

[joeysteele]

TBF I only have ever slagged off Rebeckah and Aden though Joey,I have never slagged off there fans.

And Jedward were called twincest and Incest and Autistic which are far worse than Ardick,Prostitute,Slut and Slag Imo.

Well, equally as with me jf, welcome these guidelines and hope all others do too. 2 wrongs will never make a right and I agree with you but I do welcome very much these reinforced guidelines.
Let's hope the guidelines mean a positive move forward for everyone.

[joeysteele]

The thread is NOT aimed at any one single person. I'm not sure why people have got so defensive.

We've all slated HM's in the past. It simply has been noted that this year it's gone OTT and a mod chose to say so

Now, go play...

Confused at 'go play',I am not a child. I thought I made a valid point and was also being supportive.

I very much welcome these guidelines for all housemates in all series and for all members too.

[Kerry]

Confused at 'go play',I am not a child. I thought I made a valid point and was also being supportive.

I very much welcome these guidelines for all housemates in all series and for all members too.

I was being me and trying to lighten the mood.......

[Shasown]

The thread is NOT aimed at any one single person. I'm not sure why people have got so defensive.

We've all slated HM's in the past. It simply has been noted that this year it's gone OTT and a mod chose to say so

Now, go play...

To be quite honest I dont really think this year has been any worse than previous years on here.

Maybe the mods are just becoming a touch more sensitive recently.

Maybe its because there are more mods and less people posting in general, so they can concentrate more on whats being posted.

Or and yes its back to the old chestnut maybe due to the lack of live feed and being spoonfed only what the producers want us to see in the highlights show, the vitriol comes in quick fire bursts.

[Kerry]

Moderators can get bollocked just as much as anyone else. Do you seriously think if I started posting personal details for example of someone else I'd be allowed to remain a mod? No.

And yes, we bollock each other about behaviour just as much (sometimes more) if we don't see it as right.

[Kerry]

To be quite honest I dont really think this year has been any worse than previous years on here.

Maybe the mods are just becoming a touch more sensitive recently.

Maybe its because there are more mods and less people posting in general, so they can concentrate more on whats being posted.

Or and yes its back to the old chestnut maybe due to the lack of live feed and being spoonfed only what the producers want us to see in the highlights show, the vitriol comes in quick fire bursts.

Perhaps.

I never used to post in the BB forum really bar live feed so maybe it's just in my face more this year

[joeysteele]

To be quite honest I dont really think this year has been any worse than previous years on here.

Maybe the mods are just becoming a touch more sensitive recently.

Maybe its because there are more mods and less people posting in general, so they can concentrate more on whats being posted.

Or and yes its back to the old chestnut maybe due to the lack of live feed and being spoonfed only what the producers want us to see in the highlights show, the vitriol comes in quick fire bursts.

I think you make a very strong points,I thought it far worse last year with John James and Josie and Ben etc.

I think I better shut up now though, so am clearing off this thread, I was being supportive or trying to be and clearly still am in the wrong.

[James]

The forum's default theme is Winter Wonderland and it's Homepage is a mess.

It needs no help on looking cheap and tacky.

And it's not our fault, it's a Big Brother forum - some of us are more into the show than others and do get caught up with it, alot and feel passionate about the series - I agree with what you're saying though it is VERY childish when people come up with little nicknames for housemates they don't like, especially when the nicknames don't even make sense.

But at the end of the day, I think Mods should be more concerned about certain members insulting BB fans - just because they 'don't like the new era' it's ridiculous and it happened alot in CBB8, it may of calmed down now but it's still there, the amount of negativity on this forum from so called 'fans' revolving the show is a disgrace.

And If I were a new member who just joined, THAT alone would be enough to drive me away - because it's really hard trying to discuss the show when you've got other members laughing at you and calling the show pathetic and just trolling constantly.

Umm, to answer this... I do have a list of things to do on the site, trouble I end up doing other stuff which is necessary for the upkeep of the site and forum, which takes time. Example is trying to manage and improve the speed of the site. I made a change the other day which I think has improved it (I think there was a problem earlier today though btw), even though you won't notice a major difference to the cosmetic aspects of the site. It did take some work to do though which prevents me doing other stuff.

That's why I've been asking for contributions to things like picture gallery, Twitter and articles, so I can get round to other things here.

Also I've been rather busy and pre-occupied recently.

[Vicky.]

To be quite honest I dont really think this year has been any worse than previous years on here.

Maybe the mods are just becoming a touch more sensitive recently.

Maybe its because there are more mods and less people posting in general, so they can concentrate more on whats being posted.

Or and yes its back to the old chestnut maybe due to the lack of live feed and being spoonfed only what the producers want us to see in the highlights show, the vitriol comes in quick fire bursts.

If anything, I think we are way more lenient than we were last year, or the year I actually became a mod. I remember actually banning someone for a week for calling another member a dick and noone even questioning it as it was what people were used to then. Where now, everyone would go mental about that. The times before infractions were the best, everyone knew not to push their luck, because the system in general was much harsher.

Second point may have something in it though.

Third is most likely IMO. Other years, we havent focused so much on single incidents. Chocolategate for example, would have been discussed for about 10 mins, and then we would be talking about something else.

[James]

I'm closing this thread. Gone too off-topic and we're meant to be talking about Big Brother in this forum.