Why I don't want Aaron to win!

[The Human Santapede]

For those of you that know me you know I love game players, strategists and planners. So usually Aaron as a housemate would be right up my street as he is all of those things. He is smart, he has played a game and a good one...


...but he has tried to fool us, the viewers. He hasn't involved us in his strategy and let us know what he is planning so we could be part of his plan and plot with him. He has lied to us at times and sucked so many into his scheme.

I expect to be slated for this, but if you are intending to use game play on BB then let the viewers in on it so we can relish in the experience too. That is why I dislike him, i had high hopes for him and he let me down and shut us out.

[Locke.]

People that are open about their game playing will never win, unfortunately

[Jordan.]

I know what you mean. Atleast with gameplayers like Victor + Anton this year they weren't afraid to admit it in the DR when they're one on one with the viewer. Aaron is just using the viewers for his own gain rather than involving them for entertainment. Instead of being the obvious gameplayer character I think he's putting on a act to try seem genuine. Quite sad how many people have fallen for it right until the end and can't even bring themselves to admit he has played BB right from the start.

[jyunga]

You're right. He has done things in the house to try to win over (ie fool) the viewers. It's also been working very well. It might not be your cup of tea in terms of entertainment but he is working everyone and going for the win. Much better then being "the game player" for the series and coming in 4th or 5th.

Was Anton really a game player? He sat in the DR and pointed his fingers at the screen a lot. However there weren't that many things he actually did to influence anything. Pointing out Maisy and Aaron kissed (and saying Aaron fingered her) and lying about what Harry said about Lousie. That's about all I can remember. He was more fake in the DR than Aaron if anything.

[The Human Santapede]

You're right. He has done things in the house to try to win over (ie fool) the viewers. It's also been working very well. It might not be your cup of tea in terms of entertainment but he is working everyone and going for the win. Much better then being "the game player" for the series and coming in 4th or 5th.

If you are going to be the gameplayer then you need to not trick your fans. Involve them in your strategy don't lie to them.

[LeXcellence]

I can see your point. But think of it this way if it is a game plan. Then if he wins he's going to let us in on the twist in the tale on the winning. That's if he's playing a game. Think of it and I am not saying that he is a game player. But if it all was an act then the twist in the tale when he wins will be a good one to see. If he is as smart as a lot of people who hate him say he is. Then he's not going to let too much on so that they keep coming back to see what the deal is.

[Novo]

I know what you mean. Atleast with gameplayers like Victor + Anton this year they weren't afraid to admit it in the DR when they're one on one with the viewer. Aaron is just using the viewers for his own gain rather than involving them for entertainment. Instead of being the obvious gameplayer character I think he's putting on a act to try seem genuine. Quite sad how many people have fallen for it right until the end and can't even bring themselves to admit he has played BB right from the start.

There is a reason why Victor and Anton have never made it as far as Aaron.. they are no where near as smart as him he'd obviously be long gone by now if he admitted what he was doing.. the greatest thing about Aaron is how hard he is to read no one has yet to fully work him out in the house and the viewers still don't know if he is being himself.

[The Human Santapede]

I can see your point. But think of it this way if it is a game plan. Then if he wins he's going to let us in on the twist in the tale on the winning. That's if he's playing a game. Think of it and I am not saying that he is a game player. But if it all was an act then the twist in the tale when he wins will be a good one to see. If he is as smart as a lot of people who hate him say he is. Then he's not going to let too much on so that they keep coming back to see what the deal is.

There is a reason why Victor and Anton have never made it as far as Aaron.. they are no where near as smart as him he'd obviously be long gone by now if he admitted what he was doing.. the greatest thing about Aaron is how hard he is to read no one has yet to fully work him out in the house and the viewers still don't know if he is being himself.


Honestly, if I was a fan I'd feel cheated. I'd want to be part of that experience with the housemate and the reason that they had gone on to win knowing the full facts.


I don't expect many others to think like I do, but I love my strategy and gameplay (ask Locke during TiBB BB) and it's one thing to trick the housemates, but to trick your fans seems a bit hollow.

[Novo]

I don't think he is tricking anyway but if he did say he had some massive gameplan and was using Faye after big brother finished i wouldn't regret voting for him at all she'd have to take some of the blame for falling for it for 8/9 weeks

[headaball]

How can you be sure that this is not the real Aaron though?

How can you be sure that the Alex we are seeing is the real Alex?

The same for every housemate.

[The Human Santapede]

How can you be sure that this is not the real Aaron though?

How can you be sure that the Alex we are seeing is the real Alex?

The same for every housemate.

Gut feeling. I could be wrong but I've always been taught to trust my gut instincts.

[icecakes]

For those of you that know me you know I love game players, strategists and planners. So usually Aaron as a housemate would be right up my street as he is all of those things. He is smart, he has played a game and a good one...


...but he has tried to fool us, the viewers. He hasn't involved us in his strategy and let us know what he is planning so we could be part of his plan and plot with him. He has lied to us at times and sucked so many into his scheme.

I expect to be slated for this, but if you are intending to use game play on BB then let the viewers in on it so we can relish in the experience too. That is why I dislike him, i had high hopes for him and he let me down and shut us out.

In what way has he tried to fool us and lie to us carn't see it myself. dont

forget we only see what bb want us to see. in Aarons case, usually his bad

bits, compared to what Jay and louise are doing Aarons a saint

[SoBig]

I'm backing Aaron now, because he is the only one left in the house that's truly playing a game and part of playing the game is fooling the public into voting for you. I cannot hold that against him at all.

You know whats funny. I created a thread a week and an half ago warning Aaron fans not to vote out Anton, because once Anton is gone. Aaron would turn into the villain, because he is the only other person besides Anton that was playing a game.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188170

But did the Aaron fans listen? Of course not. All they did was make fun. Look now, exactly what I predicted is happening. Aaron is now the Villain.

[Novo]

I'm backing Aaron now, because he is the only one left in the house that's truly playing a game and part of playing the game is fooling the public into voting for you. I cannot hold that against him at all.

You know whats funny. I created a thread a week and an half ago warning Aaron fans not to vote out Anton, because once Anton is gone. Aaron would turn into the villain, because he is the only other person besides Anton that was playing a game.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188170

But did the Aaron fans listen? Of course not. All they did was make fun. Look now, exactly what I predicted is happening. Aaron is now the Villain.

I am looking and i see Aaron in the final

[LeXcellence]

Only way to tell if he's playing a game is wait and see til the final interview. Either he will look like Jigsaw from SAW and a massive twist in the tail will come into play and he will walk off into the sunset with all the money and being the winner. All of us being played. Or he will have been himself and walk off with the money and Faye.

If it's a twist then he will be even more of an ultimate housemate than anyone who's been in big brother ever. But I feel he is being himself. He's stayed very true to what he said on his video going into the house of what he's like.

[SoBig]

I am looking and i see Aaron in the final
Villains don't win, heroes do. Just ask Russell Hantz. In order for Aaron to win, he needs to be seen as the hero, not as the villain.

[The Human Santapede]

I am looking and i see Aaron in the final

Oh, don't get me wrong. I may not love Aaron like I did in the first two weeks but he still deserves to be in the final. He's been a major part of this years show and nobody can deny that.

[iRyan]

I agree.

He is not at all endearing like Victor and others were. He just comes across as very sly and slimy. He's trying to manipulate the public just like he is those in the house. He is a great housemate, but not a winner. And some of the best housemates ever haven't won, so it's not a bad thing. But I just don't think he deserves to win.

[Claymores]

His little 'piece to camera' it the toilet was just too much. Even Harry has said (I didn't believe it at first) that Aaron has studied how to do the camp bits (I'd also say vinerable/fake sweet) for the benefit of BB girlie viewers.

[Kazanne]

I 'm sure Aaron told us all when he went in the DR,i clearly remember him saying he was there to play the game,BUT not everything he does is in that 'Game' He also told us with his garden chat what he was doing with noms,I dont feel fooled at all,I have loved watching him,I would not have watched so long if not for him

[SoBig]

I 'm sure Aaron told us all when he went in the DR,i clearly remember him saying he was there to play the game,BUT not everything he does is in that 'Game' He also told us with his garden chat what he was doing with noms,I dont feel fooled at all,I have loved watching him,I would not have watched so long if not for him

No one should be fooled that Aaron is playing a game. Its painfully obvious that he is. Anyone who says that he isn't, is just fooling themselves. Why should Aaron come right out and say that he is playing a game? Thats makes little to no sense, because as soon as he does that, he will become hated. Aaron knows that. Right now he is playing close to a perfect game. It will be a damn shame if Alex or whoever else win BB12. Aaron is the clear winner.

[Roy Mars III]

No one should be fooled that Aaron is playing a game. Its painfully obvious that he is. Anyone who says that he isn't, is just fooling themselves. Why should Aaron come right out and say that he is playing a game? Thats makes little to no sense, because as soon as he does that, he will become hated. Aaron knows that. Right now he is playing close to a perfect game. It will be a damn shame if Alex or whoever else win BB12. Aaron is the clear winner.

Agreed. If he came out and said it he would have been gone weeks ago.

[Samuel.]

I honestly don't believe Aaron is as big of a game player as y'all make out. I don't think he's got this huge, detailed game plan, where everything he does is calculated.

Having a couple of moody days every week is hardly going to help him win, and surely he knows Faye is dragging him down, especially after her boos last Friday, yet they shared a bed yet again last night.

He may do the odd thing here and there, but I think for the most part we're seeing the real Aaron. We've seen too much of his bad, grumpy sides for it all to be an act.

[MachoPoodle]

I honestly don't believe Aaron is as big of a game player as y'all make out. I don't think he's got this huge, detailed game plan, where everything he does is calculated.

Having a couple of moody days every week is hardly going to help him win, and surely he knows Faye is dragging him down, especially after her boos last Friday, yet they shared a bed yet again last night.

He may do the odd thing here and there, but I think for the most part we're seeing the real Aaron. We've seen too much of his bad, grumpy sides for it all to be an act.

Well, as he seems quite self righteous, I'm not so sure he himself would agree he has bad and grumpy sides... He plays the victim card quite a lot. Just because he has a game plan and is calculating it doesn't necessarily mean it's a good one. To me it seems like he thinks he should get sympathy for being in his moods, so no matter if they're fake or real I don't think he possesses much in the way of self awareness. Too busy judging everyone else. But I do agree that I don't think he's nearly as clever as he's made out to be. :hugesmile:

[In the Drunk Tank]

For those of you that know me you know I love game players, strategists and planners. So usually Aaron as a housemate would be right up my street as he is all of those things. He is smart, he has played a game and a good one...


...but he has tried to fool us, the viewers. He hasn't involved us in his strategy and let us know what he is planning so we could be part of his plan and plot with him. He has lied to us at times and sucked so many into his scheme.

I expect to be slated for this, but if you are intending to use game play on BB then let the viewers in on it so we can relish in the experience too. That is why I dislike him, i had high hopes for him and he let me down and shut us out.

I would agree with this if he was indeed playing a game. People can go on and on about it being a gameshow but it's also a reality show, I like to actually see real people and real personalities in there, I don't like people who put on a false persona in order to try and trick and manipulate viewers. I know I was a big Anton fan but with him it was different, he was being real in the sense that he was being straight with his intentions, allowing the public in so that we could be a part of it.

Although I'm still not convinced that Aaron is a gameplayer, and people are far too quick to slap that tag on people IMO. I think for the most part he is being pretty genuine, and if he was purely playing a game then a lot of it doesn't really make sense because when he has his strops his normally right before nominations, and he would also see that his relationship with Faye has probably been more of a hindrance. He might do certain things to assist him or give him a better chance of winning but in general I do think the Aaron we see most of the time is indeed real.

[Suze]

For those of you that know me you know I love game players, strategists and planners. So usually Aaron as a housemate would be right up my street as he is all of those things. He is smart, he has played a game and a good one...


...but he has tried to fool us, the viewers. He hasn't involved us in his strategy and let us know what he is planning so we could be part of his plan and plot with him. He has lied to us at times and sucked so many into his scheme.

I expect to be slated for this, but if you are intending to use game play on BB then let the viewers in on it so we can relish in the experience too. That is why I dislike him, i had high hopes for him and he let me down and shut us out.

Totally disagree. He is a great BB housemate and one of the most deserving winners in many a BB if he can indeed win it.

[Samuel.]

I would agree with this if he was indeed playing a game. People can go on and on about it being a gameshow but it's also a reality show, I like to actually see real people and real personalities in there, I don't like people who put on a false persona in order to try and trick and manipulate viewers. I know I was a big Anton fan but with him it was different, he was being real in the sense that he was being straight with his intentions, allowing the public in so that we could be a part of it.

Although I'm still not convinced that Aaron is a gameplayer, and people are far too quick to slap that tag on people IMO. I think for the most part he is being pretty genuine, and if he was purely playing a game then a lot of it doesn't really make sense because when he has his strops his normally right before nominations, and he would also see that his relationship with Faye has probably been more of a hindrance. He might do certain things to assist him or give him a better chance of winning but in general I do think the Aaron we see most of the time is indeed real.

Completely agree.

[showtime77]

They are all game players! This is a game show and most of the ones with piss poor plans left early. It is really that simple. Aaron is pulling the strings in that house in a way we have never seen before in the Big Brother UK house.

[chuff me dizzy]

The BIGGEST gameplayers in there this year have been Justin and Faye ,thankfully none can win

[tonyface]

I am starting to feel sorry for Aaron now, he has looked such a pathetic excuse over the last few episodes......:(:(

Have they put him on suicide watch yet ????:sad::sad:

[Babschap]

I'm a big Aaron fan OP, but I won't slate you because you have your opinion.
As far as Aaron goes, his " game playing" has been principled and moral, that is why I won't liken him to previous game players. Victor, was very aggressive in his BB, and Marcus 2009 BB was a legend but he shouted to all that he was playing the game etc. The beauty of Aaron is that he has done it all very nicely, and has not made very many viewing enemies along the way except BB themselves! He deserves to win, not come 3 or 4th like other players.

[tonyface]

Because he is so pathetic, even though he is in the BB house, he is starting to look like a homeless man......:sad::sad:

He only has 2 tops, a green cardigan, and those crusty pyjama bottoms, that must stink of P*ss by now.......:yuk::yuk::conf2:

[Videostar]

Didn't Aaron say he was treating this as a game in day one.??

[lucyann]

Gut feeling. I could be wrong but I've always been taught to trust my gut instincts.

Good point. I took a liking to Aaron and Alex from the beginning. I took a dislike to Jay and Louise. I still feel the same. Aaron will be getting my votes no problem.

[Suze]

Because he is so pathetic, even though he is in the BB house, he is starting to look like a homeless man......:sad::sad:

He only has 2 tops, a green cardigan, and those crusty pyjama bottoms, that must stink of P*ss by now.......:yuk::yuk::conf2:

WoW! You take a great interest in him and his clothing don't you? :o There is a fine line between love and h*te you know ;) Methinks you love Aaron really but are probably in denial :D

[karezza]

An Aaron win would be great for Big Brother.

[chuff me dizzy]

Good point. I took a liking to Aaron and Alex from the beginning. I took a dislike to Jay and Louise. I still feel the same. Aaron will be getting my votes no problem.

Me too on both points

[Brother Leon]

It is funny how Anton was upfront the whole time and was hated yet Aaron is loved for being sly with his gameplan and hiding it completely.

[lucyann]

[QUOTE=chuff me dizzy;4709560]The BIGGEST gameplayers in there this year have been Justin and Faye ,thankfully none can win[/QUOTE

I think the biggest game player this year has been Louise.
Louise came in saying things like I wasn't brought up like that, didn't like swearing, had no connection with Jay etc.
I think she is playing the public if anyone is and Jay a close second.

[RodHull]

I agree.

He is not at all endearing like Victor and others were. He just comes across as very sly and slimy. He's trying to manipulate the public just like he is those in the house. He is a great housemate, but not a winner. And some of the best housemates ever haven't won, so it's not a bad thing. But I just don't think he deserves to win.

But rebeckah did right :nono:

Aaron would have to be a machievelian genius to not only manipulate the house but also the entire viewing public. He is clever but c'mon hes not that clever ffs.

People in BB dont go far if they are fake, regardless what games hes played in the house hes always been true to his morals, never wavered, even when it made him monumentally unpopular in the house. He understand (like nobody else ever has) that its only US the public that matters not the other HMs.

[thesheriff443]

i agree most of what you see is the real aaron!, a very weak excuse of a man! the first sign of a problem he runs off to bed to cry! not willing to go face to face with any one not even gem to say mind your own business! and stand up for him self in stead he runs of to the diary to sell his story to the viewers,without thr drama off him playing faye he would be part of the furniture!.

[thesheriff443]

he only stopped the the rowing task thinking harry would win! the look on his face when his vt was going to be played was pure fear!,even asked faye if he could have word before it was played!.

[RodHull]

without thr drama off him playing faye he would be part of the furniture!.

Have you watched this series? Without him there wouldnt have been a series... The entire wolfpack drama, the Rebeckah business early on, it was all centered around Aaron, he has danced to his own tune from day 1 and they hate him for it lol

[thesheriff443]

iv watched every series of bb!,aaron own tune thing has been his game plan from day one!.

[RodHull]

he only stopped the the rowing task thinking harry would win! the look on his face when his vt was going to be played was pure fear!,even asked faye if he could have word before it was played!.

And yet ironically he came across better than Faye who was like a different person, and did you not watch Louise, Alex and Jays VTs?? They were worse than any of the ones the HMs saw.

ALL HMs in all series lie on their VTs to make themselves seem more interesting and charismatic, its just what they all do.

[thesheriff443]

i think that the vote to save has had a big placebo affect on this series of bb once aaron topped the first vote i think veiwers took that on board!,of course housemates give it the large

[Mr Angry]

Ive been an Aaron fan since Mark left.
I voted for him last week and I NEVER vote.
Couldnt tell you the last BB I actually bothered to vote in.
But his behaviour yesterday has left me cold.
I probably wouldve voted him to win but I almost feel Ive been made a mug of by him.
i dont hate him and I wouldnt vote for anyone else but I dont feel like I should vote for him again

[MeMyselfAndI]

It is funny how Anton was upfront the whole time and was hated yet Aaron is loved for being sly with his gameplan and hiding it completely.

Because Aaron was a legend, & was consistently the most entertaining, whereas Anton was just a nobody, who thought he was close to being a legend for 10 days.

[thesheriff443]

its his constant selling his story in the diary room to the viewers that gets me,

[Spring]

It wouldn't have been Interesting without Aaron so I'm voting him all the way

[MachoPoodle]

I don't get how anyone can think Aaron is entertaining. He's more boring than watching paint dry and seriously irritating with his selfrighteousness and grumpiness and about as much charm as a very unholy mackerel.

[Kazanne]

its his constant selling his story in the diary room to the viewers that gets me,

So,what do you think the DR is for then?

[waterhog]

what ever you think of this aaron guy HE MUST NOT WIN. not only has he bored me to death with being mixed up about his own sexulaity, he has played the confused card to many times with out lerning a lesson ie falling out with fay, reliseing they are tottaly diffrent and wont get on, then in the same night share a bed and snog the face of her. clearly say i can not stand house music and dose not feel well and went to bed, but managed to go in the toilet and buck up and have a dance with memyselfandI <i am bored stiff of this guy and anyone who disgree with theJoe dose not have a clue what the real big brother is about. ( if you see this BB producers i surgest you take heed )

[boomoo]

There is a reason why Victor and Anton have never made it as far as Aaron.. they are no where near as smart as him he'd obviously be long gone by now if he admitted what he was doing.. the greatest thing about Aaron is how hard he is to read no one has yet to fully work him out in the house and the viewers still don't know if he is being himself.

The difference between the three is obvious. No 'love' interest for Victor or Anton.

[Rustic bauble]

Aaron is playing a game....a very clever one. He is a likeable character and has not been ruthless or tried to be 'clever'.
Unlike Anton or Victor he has not needed to 'gangsta' act his manipulation of the other housemates. He has shown respect for those he truly likes...ie Harry,Faye and Alex.
Faye has played with his emotions as much as he has played hers....not deliberatly because I genuinly think they liked each other...but Aaron looks at Faye now in a different light...she is needy and demanding and she has a sister and mother that he feels he has to compromise with and maybe its all too much for him to want to deal with.
To want to take Alex into the final is a gamble....he does not know her possible fan-base as she has never been up....why not favour Faye....she has had less votes than him on previous evictions and he would put the critics right on his questioned loyalty for her... so he is playing a game but its not ruthless.

I dont feel he has fooled me...I have enjoyed watching him play the game in a subtle and clever way....we dont need a running commentry on it....otherwise its predictable and boring!!!

[dwarling]

I don't get how anyone can think Aaron is entertaining. He's more boring than watching paint dry and seriously irritating with his selfrighteousness and grumpiness and about as much charm as a very unholy mackerel.


:joker::joker::joker: Ditto'.

[RodHull]

i am bored stiff of this guy and anyone who disgree with theJoe dose not have a clue what the real big brother is about. ( if you see this BB producers i surgest you take heed )

Pretty much every major drama in the whole series (yes all of them) have either revolved around or included him. Are you smoking crack?

You might not like him, thats your opinion, but without him it would have been 9 weeks of listening to Aden rap, Anton slag off women and Jay and Louise saying how much they adore each other... if thats your idea of entertainment, you can keep it.

[thesheriff443]

So,what do you think the DR is for then?

the diary room is to talk about how you feel! and whats going on in the house!,its not to give the veiwers your one sided version of the events!,he wont have a face to face and sort things out!,instead goes to big brother and makes out he is so much better than everyone else!,

[cheapbbfan]

Aaron is a dickhead