Alex is sharing the money

[thesheriff443]

don't ponder too much..... some of us have our dinner to eat.

:D

cat that got the cream!:joker:

[Jules2]

I disagree, he'd be gambling with Louise's money because there'd be no guarantee that Alex would split still. So he's right to split his with Louise who is his girlfriend. Aaron wouldn't have split the winnings with Jay regardless!!

Ah but he wouldnt be gambling if Alex kept to the deal. It would all have to be done under everyones understanding. My point is, the ball is definitely in Alex's court and there is no way that Aaron should be expected to share with Jay unless everyone is fair, this could be why Jay is upset at Alex not sharing. As everyone thought that Alex would share, I feel that had things gone to plan then Aaron would have upheld his part. After all how could he accept his balance and then not uphold the rest?

The thing is this it is all water under the bridge now and each one of them will have sorted their own thoughts out on the subject. Possibly we are all only really surmising.

[Pyramid*]

cat that got the cream!:joker:

:D

Funny you mention: you weren't too far off the mark...... this cat had fish for dinner. :D

But unlike the manner in which BB ultimately has managed to cause all this kerfuffle - it didn't stink!

[Jules2]

Yep, they were meant to.... but they didn't. It all boiled down mostly to Alex and Jay - the main winners in the 'BB allocation'.

Makes me all the more glad though that Aaron was not coerced into wasting £500 of his £990 on a gift for Alex/Tom !!! I bet Jay and Louise are ripping !!! tee hee. Serves them right for being sneaky anyhooooo !! :D

It did say in the magazine that they were annoyed because they had spent the money on them. Who knows eh!

[Pyramid*]

It did say in the magazine that they were annoyed because they had spent the money on them. Who knows eh!

That comes as absolutely no surprise.

There was both Jay and Louise banging on and on while they were in the house that they both bought the gifts because they wanted to, and in Louise's case: she actually said verbatim, "You don't give to receive but..."

The gifts were purchased as leverage to ensure that Alex would play ball as far as I am concerned. Having read what you've just written, it makes me all the happier that Alex appears to have dissied them - if that's what they've admitted in the mag. Proves that the birthday gifts weren't bought because they wanted to ... they bought because they wanted to ensure some form of payback, and now they didn't get that financial payback, they are annoyed.

If the gifts were bought out of sheer desire with no strings; they would have no reason to feel annoyed - nor would they feel the need to refer to the money they spent on the birthday gifts at all. ;)

[Jules2]

That comes as absolutely no surprise.

There was both Jay and Louise banging on and on while they were in the house that they both bought the gifts because they wanted to, and in Louise's case: she actually said verbatim, "You don't give to receive but..."

The gifts were purchased as leverage to ensure that Alex would play ball as far as I am concerned. Having read what you've just written, it makes me all the happier that Alex appears to have dissied them - if that's what they've admitted in the mag. Proves that the birthday gifts weren't bought because they wanted to ... they bought because they wanted to ensure some form of payback, and now they didn't get that financial payback, they are annoyed.

If the gifts were bought out of sheer desire with no strings; they would have no reason to feel annoyed - nor would they feel the need to refer to the money they spent on the birthday gifts at all. ;)

LOL we can go on and on eh, I hadnt thought of it in that way before I have to admit, you have a point though tbh. Mind you at that stage the fruit would have only been the 1,000 to make up the difference, they would have spent the 1,000 so possibly it wouldnt have benefited them. My thoughts were that they wanted to get one over on Aaron and to gain the aw factor from the public. I wouldnt argue though as none of us really know.

At that stage in the game Jay wouldnt have known about the end result and the second agreement.

[Jules2]

It was used on hair fgs!

The thing is though, underneath that hair is scalp which could have for one reason or another, been sensitive, a scratch, a cut, a small wound, who knows eh. Definitely not the way to go imo.

[Pyramid*]

LOL we can go on and on eh, I hadnt thought of it in that way before I have to admit, you have a point though tbh. Mind you at that stage the fruit would have only been the 1,000 to make up the difference, they would have spent the 1,000 so possibly it wouldnt have benefited them. My thoughts were that they wanted to get one over on Aaron and to gain the aw factor from the public. I wouldnt argue though as none of us really know.

At that stage in the game Jay wouldnt have known about the end result and the second agreement.


All in all, they pair of them are underhand imo (for the reason re Aaron and the gifts), for them now stating this annoyance at having bought pressies that they claimed was out of the goodness of their hearts, and all manner of other things. Two thoroughly untrustworthy and completely self centred, self absorbed sorts. IMO of course.

[Jules2]

All in all, they pair of them are underhand imo (for the reason re Aaron and the gifts), for them now stating this annoyance at having bought pressies that they claimed was out of the goodness of their hearts, and all manner of other things. Two thoroughly untrustworthy and completely self centred, self absorbed sorts. IMO of course.

I think there are a lot of people who share your opinion tbh. My main thing against them is the crudity which went on in the house. This is why I love the fast forward issue on Sky LOL....I lost the patience to listen to them tbh.

[BBfan6418]

Hi folks, Pyramid I love your cat. I cant find the post which I want to reply to but it refers to the money. Having read the pieces from the twits and putting it into context, I would say that Jay meant shame tbh. Shame is a gentler word than sham and this is how I read it. He was totally out of order re the razor but there again that is the type of bloke he is.

Imo he would be upset about Alex not sharing the money because if Alex doesnt keep her side of the bargain then imo Aaron shouldnt neither. Aaron should have the greater amount as he won . In theory Jay would have done better to offer Aaron the 5, thus leaving Aaron's balance to be claimed from Alex. Louise should then have claimed her balance from Alex. It all rests on Alex if Jay has already shared with Louise. The first part needed to be taken up before the second part was undertaken, thus Jay has now lost out and this is possibly why he would be upset at Alex not sharing. It is said in the magazines that Louise and Jay are upset?

What magazines?

[BBfan6418]

It did say in the magazine that they were annoyed because they had spent the money on them. Who knows eh!

again what magazine?

[BBfan6418]

All in all, they pair of them are underhand imo (for the reason re Aaron and the gifts), for them now stating this annoyance at having bought pressies that they claimed was out of the goodness of their hearts, and all manner of other things. Two thoroughly untrustworthy and completely self centred, self absorbed sorts. IMO of course.

This is the only thing I have seen/heard either of them comment on the presents.


mz_gael mz_gael
@ @RealJayMcKray alex hasn't shared and you haven't kept in touch? so do you regret the £500 birthday presents yet?


@RealJayMcKray
Jay McKray @mz_gael no na a done it cos a wanted 2 other people were happy and that made me happy so it was worth it , it's nice 2 give

[Jules2]

What magazines?

Star 28.11.2011, they were said to be fuming. They were cross as they had bought the gifts and they accused her of playing a game in the house. It was at the BB Wrap party.

[robb]

If I was Alex I would keep the money lol.

me too...with the proviso that she shares some with tom.....

AARON hasn't shared with jay anyway, has he?

[BBfan6418]

Star 28.11.2011, they were said to be fuming. They were cross as they had bought the gifts and they accused her of playing a game in the house. It was at the BB Wrap party.

The wrap party was on the 14th, so the Star sat on this to print it yesterday. They were said to be fuming. Is the hear say or did it quote them? I am guessing the Star is a reputable mag in the UK.....

[Pyramid*]

The wrap party was on the 14th, so the Star sat on this to print it yesterday. They were said to be fuming. Is the hear say or did it quote them? I am guessing the Star is a reputable mag in the UK.....


LOL. You didn't believe them, demanded the name of the mag. You were given the name of the mag, and are now disputing the reputation of said mag, want to know exactly how it was quoted, and why the delay in printing......


PMSL. :D

[BBfan6418]

LOL. You didn't believe them, demanded the name of the mag. You were given the name of the mag, and are now disputing the reputation of said mag, want to know exactly how it was quoted, and why the delay in printing......


PMSL. :D

What's funny is how you post comments off what you have heard instead of trying to find out facts. you have not even read the article yourself but have commented on it. Seeing how everything Jay does is scrutinized on this site I find it hard to believe a thread was not created yesterday with a picture of the article. So yes I will question it if I want to.

[Pyramid*]

What's funny is how you post comments off what you have heard instead of trying to find out facts. you have not even read the article yourself but have commented on it. Seeing how everything Jay does is scrutinized on this site I find it hard to believe a thread was not created yesterday with a picture of the article. So yes I will question it if I want to.

I didn't say you weren't allowed to question it.

I was highly amused that you were doing it and questioning every smallest detail as though you had a vested interest in it.

I'm not as bothered by the article as you are, thus I have no need to put someone through the 3rd degree about it.

If I was as determined as you appear to be to 'rubbish' the article, I'd be doing some research about it and the article myself, and not expect others to do my dirty work for me. Particulary in regards to 'why the mag 'sat' on the article'. May I suggest you contact the editor of Star mag, and put your questions to them: because unless the fm in question has direct involvment in the article/the mag: it's a question that they will not be able to answer.

[BBfan6418]

I didn't say you weren't allowed to question it.

I was highly amused that you were doing it and questioning every smallest detail as though you had a vested interest in it.

I'm not as bothered by the article as you are, thus I have no need to put someone through the 3rd degree about it.

If I was as determined as you appear to be to 'rubbish' the article, I'd be doing some research about it and the article myself, and not expect others to do my dirty work for me. Particulary in regards to 'why the mag 'sat' on the article'. May I suggest you contact the editor of Star mag, and put your questions to them: because unless the fm in question has direct involvment in the article/the mag: it's a question that they will not be able to answer.

May I suggest you not reply to a question that was not asked to you in the first place since you have no vested interest.

[Pyramid*]

May I suggest you not reply to a question that was not asked to you in the first place since you have no vested interest.

No you may not.

Public forum and I am quite within my rights, quite entitled to add to the thread, using any previous comment.

If you want a one to one convo: I suggest you do that via PM.

[BBfan6418]

No you may not.

Public forum and I am quite within my rights, quite entitled to add to the thread, using any previous comment.

If you want a one to one convo: I suggest you do that via PM.

Don't care to talk to you at all much less one on one.

[Pyramid*]

Don't care to talk to you at all much less one on one.

I wasn't referring to me.

I was referring to the fm that you are putting through the 3rd degree, with questions that you know they most likely are not in a position to answer. ;)

[BBfan6418]

I wasn't referring to me.

I was referring to the fm that you are putting through the 3rd degree, with questions that you know they most likely are not in a position to answer. ;)

Can't you just quit making **** up and go away?

[Pyramid*]

Can't you just quit making **** up and go away?

Ermmmm..... how about a very firm

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnEQASx29igNL1lnHk5VuZ-zU5oZw77_TlW0achiDwUA0821145w

[BBfan6418]

I wasn't referring to me.

I was referring to the fm that you are putting through the 3rd degree, with questions that you know they most likely are not in a position to answer. ;)

There was a statement I made at the beginning, no question. Then there was a question that could be answered by the poster. If it was a quote they will put these "" at the beginning and end of the quote. Then I followed up with another statement, again no question. So I asked one question and you qualify that as putting someone through the "3rd degree." I would disagree with you again as well as most posters on here.

And I suppose you are one of the ones that said Louise is thick. :joker:

[Jules2]

The wrap party was on the 14th, so the Star sat on this to print it yesterday. They were said to be fuming. Is the hear say or did it quote them? I am guessing the Star is a reputable mag in the UK.....


I cannot quote word for word as there are copyright laws. I daresay if you look for the piece on line you will find it and judge it for yourself. No matter who we like or understand, there are always others who will deny our own thoughts. It is up to everyone to make up their own minds tbh. I am only stating what was said.

I am not one for buying magazines tbh but I have noticed over the last years that they, along with the newspapers, do not follow BB as much as they used to. Bearing this in mind I do not find it unusual for them to sit on something which isnt such popular news as I am a Celebrity and the XFactor. They seem to be the two who are saturating the news.

[Pyramid*]

There was a statement I made at the beginning, no question. Then there was a question that could be answered by the poster. If it was a quote they will put these "" at the beginning and end of the quote. Then I followed up with another statement, again no question. So I asked one question and you qualify that as putting someone through the "3rd degree." I would disagree with you again as well as most posters on here.

And I suppose you are one of the ones that said Louise is thick. :joker:

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBfan6418 http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/blue/viewpost.gif (http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4788307#post4788307)
Don't care to talk to you at all much less one on one.

Thought you didn't care to talk to me? :hugesmile:

You simply did not like the fact that I challenged you, and in a way in you could offer no reasonable reply.

You ask for info, and you were given it. When you were the info you requested, you then attempted to dismiss and/or question that - but are unable to disupute it with anything solid other than your own opinion - despite having been given info that has been published, where and when - rather than just another fm's opinion. If you were so keen to prove your own point, you would be doing your own homework.

Perhaps you have done your homework, and are unable to find something to back up your own thoughts - particularly when another fm has given you the info re the mag, what the comments were, the date of publication of said mag etc is.

As for Louise and her being thick: this thread is about Alex, her splitting the money (or not as the case may be), and some of the housemates reaction to that... and laterly, that being Jay and Louise. let's try to stay on topic eh.

[BBfan6418]

I cannot quote word for word as there are copyright laws. I daresay if you look for the piece on line you will find it and judge it for yourself. No matter who we like or understand, there are always others who will deny our own thoughts. It is up to everyone to make up their own minds tbh. I am only stating what was said.

I am not one for buying magazines tbh but I have noticed over the last years that they, along with the newspapers, do not follow BB as much as they used to. Bearing this in mind I do not find it unusual for them to sit on something which isnt such popular news as I am a Celebrity and the XFactor. They seem to be the two who are saturating the news.

I looked online and couldn't find it. I never asked for word for word. I was simply asking if it quoted them saying this or if the magazine was the one saying it. A lot of times they will run a quote and then add in what they want at the end (outside the quote) so people are fooled to believing it came from that person.

[Jules2]

What's funny is how you post comments off what you have heard instead of trying to find out facts. you have not even read the article yourself but have commented on it. Seeing how everything Jay does is scrutinized on this site I find it hard to believe a thread was not created yesterday with a picture of the article. So yes I will question it if I want to.

I personally wouldnt reproduce anything on a thread as I wouldnt want to find myself in trouble with copyright laws. Whilst we stand up for the ones we champion, we have to accept for each of them that things have been said, none of them are perfect. We ourselves cannot prove anything as we are only going by hearsay. We make up our own minds.

[Pyramid*]

I looked online and couldn't find it. I never asked for word for word. I was simply asking if it quoted them saying this or if the magazine was the one saying it. A lot of times they will run a quote and then add in what they want at the end (outside the quote) so people are fooled to believing it came from that person.

So you are basically saying that the fm in question is being dishonest and cannot be trusted? Surely that's a wee bit 'off'.

[MTVN]

So you are basically saying that the fm in question is being dishonest and cannot be trusted? Surely that's a wee bit 'off'.

Umm no I think he's asking for the source so he can clarify what was said for himself, it's a very reasonable request and I don't know why you have such an issue with it

[Jules2]

There was a statement I made at the beginning, no question. Then there was a question that could be answered by the poster. If it was a quote they will put these "" at the beginning and end of the quote. Then I followed up with another statement, again no question. So I asked one question and you qualify that as putting someone through the "3rd degree." I would disagree with you again as well as most posters on here.

And I suppose you are one of the ones that said Louise is thick. :joker:

Ok folks, listen I dont mind being asked the question (what does fm stand for Pyramid please, so many different sayings I am just catching up on it all I think lol).

Now I have had a look for the Star magazine 28/11/2011, I havent got time to go right into it but I would confirm that I did find the Star 21/11/2011 on line a few days ago. I wanted to confirm an interview with Aaron and Faye, was pleased that I found it. Bearing this in mind I have no doubt that the 28th will be there at some time or another. Am never sure how these things work tbh.

I have had another look at my own magazine and the piece says "according to our source........". We therefore have to ask ourselves where did the source get it from? I am well aware of how things can be misinterpreted but my main point in putting this forward, was to do with the issue of the money and the fact that for Jay to get all he thinks he is due, the first part of the agreement has to be resolved. Until this is done then there is no reason at all why the second part should be undertaken. Bearing all of this in mind, perhaps it is better that they all keep to their own little bits of money. I would think that each of them will have gained far more outside of the house than in it.

[BBfan6418]

Imo he would be upset about Alex not sharing the money because if Alex doesnt keep her side of the bargain then imo Aaron shouldnt neither. Aaron should have the greater amount as he won . In theory Jay would have done better to offer Aaron the 5, thus leaving Aaron's balance to be claimed from Alex. Louise should then have claimed her balance from Alex. It all rests on Alex if Jay has already shared with Louise. The first part needed to be taken up before the second part was undertaken, thus Jay has now lost out and this is possibly why he would be upset at Alex not sharing. It is said in the magazines that Louise and Jay are upset?

It did say in the magazine that they were annoyed because they had spent the money on them. Who knows eh!

I'll try this one last time. Both of your posts said "It." Who is it? Did the mag quote Jay or Louise saying they were annoyed / upset because they had spent money on them? All it takes is a yes or no answer. No copyright laws will be broken by answering.

[BBfan6418]

Ok folks, listen I dont mind being asked the question (what does fm stand for Pyramid please, so many different sayings I am just catching up on it all I think lol).

Now I have had a look for the Star magazine 28/11/2011, I havent got time to go right into it but I would confirm that I did find the Star 21/11/2011 on line a few days ago. I wanted to confirm an interview with Aaron and Faye, was pleased that I found it. Bearing this in mind I have no doubt that the 28th will be there at some time or another. Am never sure how these things work tbh.

I have had another look at my own magazine and the piece says "according to our source........". We therefore have to ask ourselves where did the source get it from? I am well aware of how things can be misinterpreted but my main point in putting this forward, was to do with the issue of the money and the fact that for Jay to get all he thinks he is due, the first part of the agreement has to be resolved. Until this is done then there is no reason at all why the second part should be undertaken. Bearing all of this in mind, perhaps it is better that they all keep to their own little bits of money. I would think that each of them will have gained far more outside of the house than in it.

Exactly what I thought. Thanks.

[Jules2]

I'll try this one last time. Both of your posts said "It." Who is it? Did the mag quote Jay or Louise saying they were annoyed / upset because they had spent money on them? All it takes is a yes or no answer. No copyright laws will be broken by answering.

I would not refer to a person as "it", my words clearly say "it is said in the magazines" I would confirm though that I have only read the Star.

Star obviously had their source at the presentation and it would have been their job to interview the HMs. The magazine was just the third party, I would say that being a popular magazine they have their reputation to uphold and would take all precautions not to print things which arent true.

[Pyramid*]

Umm no I think he's asking for the source so he can clarify what was said for himself, it's a very reasonable request and I don't know why you have such an issue with it

I have as much issue with it as that same poster has with doubting another fm - which is equally as reasonable.

[BBfan6418]

That comes as absolutely no surprise.

There was both Jay and Louise banging on and on while they were in the house that they both bought the gifts because they wanted to, and in Louise's case: she actually said verbatim, "You don't give to receive but..."

The gifts were purchased as leverage to ensure that Alex would play ball as far as I am concerned. Having read what you've just written, it makes me all the happier that Alex appears to have dissied them - if that's what they've admitted in the mag. Proves that the birthday gifts weren't bought because they wanted to ... they bought because they wanted to ensure some form of payback, and now they didn't get that financial payback, they are annoyed.

If the gifts were bought out of sheer desire with no strings; they would have no reason to feel annoyed - nor would they feel the need to refer to the money they spent on the birthday gifts at all. ;)

I would not refer to a person as "it", my words clearly say "it is said in the magazines" I would confirm though that I have only read the Star.

Star obviously had their source at the presentation and it would have been their job to interview the HMs. The magazine was just the third party, I would say that being a popular magazine they have their reputation to uphold and would take all precautions not to print things which arent true.

You also never corrected Pyramid as she took it that they(Jay & Lou) were quoted in the magazine.

The "source" could have been any number of people. For that matter it could have been Aaron. We know he is definitely not trustworthy. It also takes the focus off him for not sharing.

Don't be so naive Jules. Popular magazines publish plenty of stories that are not true. It's all about money. There might be more fact checking the bigger the story but this story would not be one of those cases.

[Pyramid*]

You also never corrected Pyramid as she took it that they(Jay & Lou) were quoted in the magazine.

The "source" could have been any number of people. For that matter it could have been Aaron. We know he is definitely not trustworthy. It also takes the focus off him for not sharing.

Don't be so naive Jules. Popular magazines publish plenty of stories that are not true. It's all about money. There might be more fact checking the bigger the story but this story would not be one of those cases.


Just to help you out a wee bit. I've highlighted one very small, but very important word in my post which you just quoted - that invalidates your need for anyone to correct me.

:idc:



if that's what they've admitted in the mag.

[Kazanne]

Just to help you out a wee bit. I've highlighted one very small, but very important word in my post which you just quoted - that invalidates your need for anyone to correct me.

:idc:





Pyramid off topic but that cat is hilarious:joker::joker:

[Jules2]

You also never corrected Pyramid as she took it that they(Jay & Lou) were quoted in the magazine.

The "source" could have been any number of people. For that matter it could have been Aaron. We know he is definitely not trustworthy. It also takes the focus off him for not sharing.

Don't be so naive Jules. Popular magazines publish plenty of stories that are not true. It's all about money. There might be more fact checking the bigger the story but this story would not be one of those cases.

Oh for goodness sake, you are just picking for the sake of it. You had already told Pyramid that it was between yourself and myself so why would I correct Pyramid if I wasnt talking to him/her?

I am not interested tbh it matters not to me whether it is fact or not. I can promise you that I am definitely not naive, a newspaper and magazine have reporters, they are employed to cover the stories of the day. Now there are other bits to the magazine which are very interesting and which may give bulk to the words themselves. I have no intention of going into anything any further.

As regards Aaron, you seem so sure that he is untrustworthy, that is just your opinion and smells of sourgrapes, many would disagree on good authority. It seems to me that you have twisted this thread back to Aaron when it was mainly to do with Alex. I brought in the issue as to why Jay could be annoyed at Alex. I was debating without accusation.

I cannot help wondering why it is so important to you to dispute the piece, why do you have to prove something which none of us can prove. We can only state fact and the fact is, it was said and printed, the quote pieces were mine as I was quoting from the magazine.

I think the naievity may be yours tbh, it is obvious that the magazine as a whole, is the third party and they would definitely employ reporters. If they print negative things then they are open to prosecution.

Surely we all accept that the HMs are/were not perfect?

[Jules2]

Pyramid off topic but that cat is hilarious:joker::joker:

I agree Kazanne, along with the name it makes me wonder if Pyramid has an interest in the ancient Egyptians and alike, I know I am.

[jo1791]

Tbf, I've read numourous articles (specifically re BB) in different 'mags, online and off' that all have an element of truth to them but have been twisted around and turned upside down so much, it is untrue. Of course you would have had to have watched the HLs to realise this. I

t wouldn't surprise me at all if this has been blown out of all proportion!!!

[BBfan6418]

Oh for goodness sake, you are just picking for the sake of it. You had already told Pyramid that it was between yourself and myself so why would I correct Pyramid if I wasnt talking to him/her?

I am not interested tbh it matters not to me whether it is fact or not. I can promise you that I am definitely not naive, a newspaper and magazine have reporters, they are employed to cover the stories of the day. Now there are other bits to the magazine which are very interesting and which may give bulk to the words themselves. I have no intention of going into anything any further.

As regards Aaron, you seem so sure that he is untrustworthy, that is just your opinion and smells of sourgrapes, many would disagree on good authority. It seems to me that you have twisted this thread back to Aaron when it was mainly to do with Alex. I brought in the issue as to why Jay could be annoyed at Alex. I was debating without accusation.

I cannot help wondering why it is so important to you to dispute the piece, why do you have to prove something which none of us can prove. We can only state fact and the fact is, it was said and printed, the quote pieces were mine as I was quoting from the magazine.

I think the naievity may be yours tbh, it is obvious that the magazine as a whole, is the third party and they would definitely employ reporters. If they print negative things then they are open to prosecution.

Surely we all accept that the HMs are/were not perfect?

According to Pyramid when you post something on here you are talking to all FM's. So i guess you should have PM'd the person you were talking to. You should have corrected her because you two were having a discussion about it.

Of course it doesn't matter to you whether its fact or not. Just throw what you can out there and see what sticks. Don't get pissed when you get called out on it.

Not picking for the sake of it at all. My original question was, was it hearsay or did they quote Jay and Louise? You and pyramid decided to go off topic for a while before you answered the question. This whole thing could have been covered in a few simple posts.

untrustworthy - not worthy of trust or belief; "an untrustworthy person"
Aaron made a deal and shook on it. He has not paid up so he is untrustworthy. Simple as. Same for Alex.

[Jules2]

Tbf, I've read numourous articles (specifically re BB) in different 'mags, online and off' that all have an element of truth to them but have been twisted around and turned upside down so much, it is untrue. Of course you would have had to have watched the HLs to realise this. I

t wouldn't surprise me at all if this has been blown out of all proportion!!!

If one feels that Jo then it is up to the person who is emphatically trying to disprove it, to find out for oneself. As I have said we can only surmise none of us can truly give the truth unless we were there.

The piece in question consists of 17 lines with 5 words at the most in each sentence. It is boxed in with a photograph of Alex and Tom. The words themselves are very explicit. Now there are also 5 other boxed pieces, a piece with Aaron and Faye in, now I know for a fact that the words are true. A piece with Maisie and Aden in, now we all know that Rebecca and Aden have split, it was said that Rebecca isnt interested in being involved in the show, truth. A lovely picture of Maisie and Heaven with a description of what they supped on lol.

A piece about Jay and Louise saying how they are still going strong but also commenting on the fact that Louise shunned the girls. If I had to make a conclusion from these pieces I would say that Louise and Jay didnt make good impressions of themselves, but that is my take on it. If anyone is interested then it is up to them to find out for themselves :hugesmile: The last piece was one of Anton being evicted from the party LOL I have read bits of this in other places, had to laugh :hugesmile:

Every other thing was in order so it would seem strange that just one piece would be an exageration.

I know what you are saying, many so called celebrities say "I didnt say that" but time will tell. Not much point in buying the magazines though if we cannot believe at least the basis of it and I would say that there was a very good basis. If it were myself and it was wrong, I would be denying it, havent seen anything so far........watch this space :hugesmile:

Mind you it is all in the past and whatever deed has been undertaken, it is just that undertaken, done and hopefully dusted.

[Jules2]

According to Pyramid when you post something on here you are talking to all FM's. So i guess you should have PM'd the person you were talking to. You should have corrected her because you two were having a discussion about it.

Of course it doesn't matter to you whether its fact or not. Just throw what you can out there and see what sticks. Don't get pissed when you get called out on it.

Not picking for the sake of it at all. My original question was, was it hearsay or did they quote Jay and Louise? You and pyramid decided to go off topic for a while before you answered the question. This whole thing could have been covered in a few simple posts.

untrustworthy - not worthy of trust or belief; "an untrustworthy person"
Aaron made a deal and shook on it. He has not paid up so he is untrustworthy. Simple as. Same for Alex.

Oh dear if you say so, I gave you the answer in the beginning STAR 28/11/2011, I also pointed out that I found the 21/11/2011 edition. How can any of us be sure that none of them have paid up? I constantly say we are only surmising. What more do you want? Shall I get the gallows out:hugesmile:

If you look back I believe you will see that Pyramid put forward a post and I moreorless disagreed with his/her conclusion and I put forward my point. This is called debate.

My points are not jumped on they were basically just one post of fact and I certainly have not been caught out, that is such a childish statement imo. Pyramid hasnt jumped on my posts even though I put forward another view, the only person who has is your goodself. You must have your reasons and I work under the fact that everyone is entitled to their views I therefore give mine on this understanding. I like a good debate and not one of people just jumping and trying to prove points which none of us can at this stage, unless of course one wants to take it further with the magazine itself. To me it isnt important either way. There is nothing to prove so far as I am concerned so go in peace.

[Pyramid*]

Pyramid off topic but that cat is hilarious:joker::joker:

I love it - it's ...errr...uplifting

*groan*

Oh for goodness sake, you are just picking for the sake of it. You had already told Pyramid that it was between yourself and myself so why would I correct Pyramid if I wasnt talking to him/her?


tee hee....... touche!

I agree Kazanne, along with the name it makes me wonder if Pyramid has an interest in the ancient Egyptians and alike, I know I am.

I do indeed Jules. Fascinating.

Tbf, I've read numourous articles (specifically re BB) in different 'mags, online and off' that all have an element of truth to them but have been twisted around and turned upside down so much, it is untrue. Of course you would have had to have watched the HLs to realise this. I

It wouldn't surprise me at all if this has been blown out of all proportion!!!

I'd say that was most probably theeeeee phrase that most applies to this entire thing! :hugesmile:

According to Pyramid when you post something on here you are talking to all FM's. So i guess you should have PM'd the person you were talking to. You should have corrected her because you two were having a discussion about it.

.

No need for Jules to correct me on anything - I used the word 'if'. And seeing as I'm happy posting on this thread in full view for anyone to read my comments and quote them - as is I very much presume Jules is: since we appear to not desire a one to one, nor do we appear to be wishing only address certain members in particular: a PM one to one session is not required.

I'm still glad that it's rankled Jay though. He's a fine one to talk about anyone going back on a deal - both and Louise - if they'd not have done the dirty on the birthday gifts: they'd still have that £1k between them......

[Jules2]

Tbf, I've read numourous articles (specifically re BB) in different 'mags, online and off' that all have an element of truth to them but have been twisted around and turned upside down so much, it is untrue. Of course you would have had to have watched the HLs to realise this. I

t wouldn't surprise me at all if this has been blown out of all proportion!!!

Going back to your words Jo, I used to get annoyed at the highlights because they were definitely taken out of context at times. I used to watch the live feed and I was so angry at the injustices done in the HLs. I know newspaper resources would print something and make a meal of it, many a time it was totally out of context but if they were only watching the HLs then BB was to blame. I also think that with the sideshows they are told what to say tbh. I may be wrong though. I think also that a lot of reporters dont really watch the show properly. :xyxwave:

[Jules2]

I love it - it's ...errr...uplifting

*groan*



tee hee....... touche!



I do indeed Jules. Fascinating.



I'd say that was most probably theeeeee phrase that most applies to this entire thing! :hugesmile:



No need for Jules to correct me on anything - I used the word 'if'. And seeing as I'm happy posting on this thread in full view for anyone to read my comments and quote them - as is I very much presume Jules is: since we appear to not desire a one to one, nor do we appear to be wishing only address certain members in particular: a PM one to one session is not required.

I'm still glad that it's rankled Jay though. He's a fine one to talk about anyone going back on a deal - both and Louise - if they'd not have done the dirty on the birthday gifts: they'd still have that £1k between them......

Off topic once again Pyramid, but have you read any of the Earths Chronicles, quite an eye opener and I would say in view of todays scientists and archaeologists, quite plausible. Reading deep things makes all the silliness of reality shows quite minimal, on the other hand though it is nice just to have a little rest and to join in the satisfaction of standing up for ones champion :hugesmile:

[Pyramid*]

Off topic once again Pyramid, but have you read any of the Earths Chronicles, quite an eye opener and I would say in view of todays scientists and archaeologists, quite plausible. Reading deep things makes all the silliness of reality shows quite minimal, on the other hand though it is nice just to have a little rest and to join in the satisfaction of standing up for ones champion :hugesmile:

I haven't Jules, I may order it though as I do like to read - the amount of documentaries I watched on Ancient Egypt are countless - and I do have some 'musings' as to whether there is some connection from the galaxies beyond- (thinking about other countries that build pyramids too so long ago).

You are right, makes all this stuff seem so utterly banal such as BB and all the resultant 'ifs/but/maybes/ ...which of course it is, but I agree.......having that bit of daftness in life is needed - for us to be debating till the cows come home about something none of us actually know about 100% - we all must be mad as hatters. :D

[jo1791]

No need for Jules to correct me on anything - I used the word 'if'.

And yet when I used the words 'even if' it didn't qualify :dance:

[jo1791]

Going back to your words Jo, I used to get annoyed at the highlights because they were definitely taken out of context at times. I used to watch the live feed and I was so angry at the injustices done in the HLs. I know newspaper resources would print something and make a meal of it, many a time it was totally out of context but if they were only watching the HLs then BB was to blame. I also think that with the sideshows they are told what to say tbh. I may be wrong though. I think also that a lot of reporters dont really watch the show properly. :xyxwave:

Tbh I have never watched live feed in my life, probably because I didn't have the tolerance to sit through all the birds singing or whatever :hugesmile:

This year though we have all seen the same thing, no one is privy to extra footage and so it is easy to conclude when stories in newspapers are twisted etc.

[Pyramid*]

And yet when I used the words 'even if' it didn't qualify :dance:

Which shows that you are open to alternative possibility..... either way. :D

[Pyramid*]

Tbh I have never watched live feed in my life, probably because I didn't have the tolerance to sit through all the birds singing or whatever :hugesmile:

This year though we have all seen the same thing, no one is privy to extra footage and so it is easy to conclude when stories in newspapers are twisted etc.

Live Feed was really interesting as you got to hear and see people when they were at their most relaxed I think - some real off beat convos, that were hilarious to listen to and some very indepth convos that were interesting and gave more insight to the hms on a deeper and individual level - it was hellish mind you having to drag yourself to bed knowing that it was getting good......but work beckoned in a few hours!

Not good for the beauty regime !

[jo1791]

Live Feed was really interesting as you got to hear and see people when they were at their most relaxed I think - some real off beat convos, that were hilarious to listen to and some very indepth convos that were interesting and gave more insight to the hms on a deeper and individual level - it was hellish mind you having to drag yourself to bed knowing that it was getting good......but work beckoned in a few hours!

Not good for the beauty regime !

I seem to recall the birds starting to sing everytime a hm spoke!!!!

But I'll admit I wasn't diehard so didn't really give it too much of a chance...

[Pyramid*]

I seem to recall the birds starting to sing everytime a hm spoke!!!!

But I'll admit I wasn't diehard so didn't really give it too much of a chance...


AArrggh.... the burds..... the BURDS !!! That always happened just when things were getting juicy ......:hugesmile:

[jo1791]

AArrggh.... the burds..... the BURDS !!! That always happened just when things were getting juicy ......:hugesmile:

Exactly, used to p me right off! :)

[alex_front2]

So is she's not sharing the dosh!

[jo1791]

So is she's not sharing the dosh!

It is most likely that she has shared with Tom, but that is it!

[Jules2]

I haven't Jules, I may order it though as I do like to read - the amount of documentaries I watched on Ancient Egypt are countless - and I do have some 'musings' as to whether there is some connection from the galaxies beyond- (thinking about other countries that build pyramids too so long ago).

You are right, makes all this stuff seem so utterly banal such as BB and all the resultant 'ifs/but/maybes/ ...which of course it is, but I agree.......having that bit of daftness in life is needed - for us to be debating till the cows come home about something none of us actually know about 100% - we all must be mad as hatters. :D

With your musings Pyramid I think you will like the Earths Chronicles. Look for Zachary Stitchin on line, there are many videos of his research undertaken over a spam of about 30 years. He is the author of the Earths Chronicles and he is totally for the galaxies beyond. I hadnt better go on to much as this is BB but.......there is possibly a greater BB than we know of :hugesmile: Mind blowing tbh. Once again though I am not saying it is truth but...why not?

[Jules2]

Tbh I have never watched live feed in my life, probably because I didn't have the tolerance to sit through all the birds singing or whatever :hugesmile:

This year though we have all seen the same thing, no one is privy to extra footage and so it is easy to conclude when stories in newspapers are twisted etc.

I agree with you Jo but I think the difference with the party, it may have been on a one to one basis. The source would have also picked up the vibrations which were being thrown around. As I have said as we werent there we cant really debate on it, we just have to surmise. One needs to read the whole piece for oneself and then make their own mind up tbh.

I always liken posters debating HMs to parents thinking their children are perfect. Whilst they are falling out the children have made up :hugesmile: I am willing to bet that the HMs are now well on their way to succeeding one way or another. In the meantime we posters are waiting for the next episode of BB...or CBB as the case will be in January. I wonder who will enter the doom and gloom of tasks and BB stirring the pot just to make aggro amongst the HMs:hugesmile: Time will tell eh?

[Jules2]

I seem to recall the birds starting to sing everytime a hm spoke!!!!

But I'll admit I wasn't diehard so didn't really give it too much of a chance...

Yes as things were getting interesting the birds began to sing, and sing, and sing and:sleep::sleep::sleep: Grrrrrrrrrr most annoying.

[jo1791]

I agree with you Jo but I think the difference with the party, it may have been on a one to one basis. The source would have also picked up the vibrations which were being thrown around. As I have said as we werent there we cant really debate on it, we just have to surmise. One needs to read the whole piece for oneself and then make their own mind up tbh.

I always liken posters debating HMs to parents thinking their children are perfect. Whilst they are falling out the children have made up :hugesmile: I am willing to bet that the HMs are now well on their way to succeeding one way or another. In the meantime we posters are waiting for the next episode of BB...or CBB as the case will be in January. I wonder who will enter the doom and gloom of tasks and BB stirring the pot just to make aggro amongst the HMs:hugesmile: Time will tell eh?

I wasn't really talking about the party, I suppose we'll have to take their word that their source was unbiased and was telling the truth as we have nothing to set against it. Neither can I read the article because it features in an outdated magazine which isn't available anymore!!

That sucks!!

[Jules2]

I wasn't really talking about the party, I suppose we'll have to take their word that their source was unbiased and was telling the truth as we have nothing to set against it. Neither can I read the article because it features in an outdated magazine which isn't available anymore!!

That sucks!!

Jo you may be able to find certain magazines on line, as I have said I did find the 21st November Star, havent really looked for the 28th. There is so much on line these days that I wonder if it is worth purchasing additonal material. :cat: As you say we can only take their word but it is good to generalise even though we cannot prove anything without additonal support.:dance:

[Pyramid*]

With your musings Pyramid I think you will like the Earths Chronicles. Look for Zachary Stitchin on line, there are many videos of his research undertaken over a spam of about 30 years. He is the author of the Earths Chronicles and he is totally for the galaxies beyond. I hadnt better go on to much as this is BB but.......there is possibly a greater BB than we know of :hugesmile: Mind blowing tbh. Once again though I am not saying it is truth but...why not?

Oh, that sounds interesting..... I've got some time to kill so I will probably take you up on that! Ta muchly.

Kind of suits the thread in a bizarre way: seeing as there as many mysteries about such things, as there are about BB, and what really happens - in the house and out of it !
:blush:

[jo1791]

Oh, that sounds interesting..... I've got some time to kill so I will probably take you up on that! Ta muchly.

Kind of suits the thread in a bizarre way: seeing as there as many mysteries about such things, as there are about BB, and what really happens - in the house and out of it !
:blush:

What has this got to do with Alex splitting the money? :D

[Pyramid*]

What has this got to do with Alex splitting the money? :D

Like the great debate over all thing galactical - the truth is out there.... somewhere, but there's no saying we'll ever find it!







http://i.imgur.com/49p5z.gif

:o

[Ammi]

Like the great debate over all thing galactical - the truth is out there.... somewhere, but there's no saying we'll ever find it!







http://i.imgur.com/49p5z.gif

:o

Yes...but where is the prize money Pyr......maybe she shared it with aliens....LOL at this thread

[Pyramid*]

Yes...but where is the prize money Pyr......maybe she shared it with aliens....LOL at this thread

She never shared with Jay and Louise though...and that's good enough for me.

tee hee...

[Jules2]

Yes...but where is the prize money Pyr......maybe she shared it with aliens....LOL at this thread

It just took us all into the depth of the unknown, the truth is definitely out there somewhere :joker: It is good to have a debate and it is nice to have a laugh. :dance::hugesmile:

[Pyramid*]

It just took us all into the depth of the unknown, the truth is out there somewhere :joker: It is good to have a debate and it is nice to have a laugh. :dance::hugesmile:


Who's laughing. :conf:

This is very serious I will have you know. Very serious indeed.

:nono:



:spin:

[MachoPoodle]

:bored: This is such a trainwreck of a thread. Why keep posting in it when you clearly have no more to add? It's annoying to see it bumped and go look only to find that no new info has been found, it's just trolling. :nono:

[Pyramid*]

:bored: This is such a trainwreck of a thread. Why keep posting in it when you clearly have no more to add? It's annoying to see it bumped and go look only to find that no new info has been found, it's just trolling. :nono:

You do realise that BB is a light hearted entertainment show.

Perhaps you should ask for the thread to be moved to the Serious Debates section of the forum.

If threads were only to be replied on when only ever NEW INFO has been found, I think you'd find a sudden demise of the forum.

[Jules2]

Who's laughing. :conf:

This is very serious I will have you know. Very serious indeed.

:nono:



:spin:



:dance::hugesmile:

[BBfan6418]

Sorry....what on earth has this to do with this thread? Oh... I see. Nothing. Nothing at all - other than very petty point scoring? So the agenda is that, rather than discussing the thread.

I rest my case. ;)



I at least have kept to the topic of the the thread and the conversation re the Jay/Alex the money etc.....

:bored: This is such a trainwreck of a thread. Why keep posting in it when you clearly have no more to add? It's annoying to see it bumped and go look only to find that no new info has been found, it's just trolling. :nono:

MachoPoodle

Only Pyramid can call out pepole for not staying on topic in this thread. With all the crap she talks I am now convinced the fridge is not the only place Jay took a dump.

[Jules2]

:bored: This is such a trainwreck of a thread. Why keep posting in it when you clearly have no more to add? It's annoying to see it bumped and go look only to find that no new info has been found, it's just trolling. :nono:

:cat: I think what we are trying to say is that there isnt anything more we can say. We do not have proof of anything tbh we can only go by that which has been said. Do you have any information to share?

We have contributed quite a bit in our own way and just a little bit of frivolity lightens the load. At the end of the day the HMs are their own people and if they decide to keep the money then that is up to them. If they share then ok but I wonder what we will gain out of really knowing? What is it they say about curiosity......I love the chat amongst posters and I have had great fun in standing up for my HM. The trouble is, BB is now over......

[Jules2]

MachoPoodle

Only Pyramid can call out pepole for not staying on topic in this thread. With all the crap she talks I am now convinced the fridge is not the only place Jay took a dump.

It is my fault BB I took it off topic with my bringing in another factor altogether. Pyramid was most likely being polite in answering me. The trouble is there isnt anything else to say, we cannot prove or disprove that which you would like to prove is false.

I had another look on line and if you type in BB Wrap Party you will see some pictures of Aden (sorry that should read Anton, have just realised my error) being evicted from the party. I am of the opinion though that Alex has only given Tom a percentage. Once again though there is nothing to confirm this.

I found the Star 28th issue but will go back to it and see if the front opens into the different sectors. Surprisingly enough there are issues going right back to 2003.

[Incensed]

O Gawd!! We're not still debating this are we? :hugesmile:

I think we all need to get a life :joker:

[Pyramid*]

O Gawd!! We're not still debating this are we? :hugesmile:

I think we all need to get a life :joker:

Nah....we moved onto things like Aliens, astronomers, Ancient Egypt, galaxies beyond the milky way - you know, all things a bit more believeable than the show that is Big Brother......

Some of us tried to get a life, but got snared for it. :D

PS. Don't think that Alex has shared the money out yet. :shocked: Horrific I know but I thought I'd best break it to you gently.

[Jules2]

O Gawd!! We're not still debating this are we? :hugesmile:

I think we all need to get a life :joker:

:cat:Ok what else is there to debate, I dont like Anthony Cotton am hoping Fatima will win. No no no that was naughty it is way off topic. :blush::hugesmile: I havent been on these boards long but have to admit that I have enjoyed this thread. I guess we are getting ourselves all prepared for January and another round of CBB........bring back Jedward, they were brilliant.

[Jules2]

Nah....we moved onto things like Aliens, astronomers, Ancient Egypt, galaxies beyond the milky way - you know, all things a bit more believeable than the show that is Big Brother......

Some of us tried to get a life, but got snared for it. :D

PS. Don't think that Alex has shared the money out yet. :shocked: Horrific I know but I thought I'd best break it to you gently.

LOL had to think what was Snowball doing with your cat? Then I realised. Would love to go into discussion but wont.....well, mmmmm......(psst have you had a look at the videos?). Seriously it is mind blowing.

Nothing more to say I guess, havent heard anything more about Alex, I do know that others are pleased with her so all that remains is to wish them all good luck.

[jo1791]

LOL had to think what was Snowball doing with your cat? Then I realised. Would love to go into discussion but wont.....well, mmmmm......(psst have you had a look at the videos?). Seriously it is mind blowing.

Nothing more to say I guess, havent heard anything more about Alex, I do know that others are pleased with her so all that remains is to wish them all good luck.

Oh she's off to Disney next year with her bezzie mate Tom....:hugesmile:

[Marsh.]

good on Alex I say!. Like I said, 'sham really' says it all for me.

Poor Jay, petted lip is showing. Bless.

He said "shame really" after saying no one's kept in touch. That's a different subject.

We've moved on from the subject I see, but thought this was an odd comment when I read through the thread.

[MTVN]

He said "shame really" after saying no one's kept in touch. That's a different subject.

We've moved on from the subject I see, but thought this was an odd comment when I read through the thread.

It's because in his tweet Jay missed the e off of "shame" so Pyramid is certain that he must have actually meant "sham" :D

[Bill Carson]

Loving your sole contribution here to the thread Bill - posted only to be critical of another member and with a sly dig. I'm so pleased that I (or my sense) are not so common. :hmph:


Good I love this place at times!

:D


Oh, thanks Scotty07, that's a far better sole contribution.... LOL :D! :thumbs:

Thanks for your love:blush2:..Not critical or having a "sly dig",just an observation...It's all relative..

[claire2012]

So you are basically saying that the fm in question is being dishonest and cannot be trusted? Surely that's a wee bit 'off'.


i disagree with everything you are saying Pyramid. Imo you read things the way you want to, but its not always the correct way!! you make out people have said things they havent. At the end of they day this was all caused by ALEX!!!! she was the greedy 1 who went back on her deal.

[Pyramid*]

i disagree with everything you are saying Pyramid. Imo you read things the way you want to, but its not always the correct way!! you make out people have said things they havent. At the end of they day this was all caused by ALEX!!!! she was the greedy 1 who went back on her deal.


New member bumps a 6 month old thread!

Hello Claire2012. :wavey:

I can't believe someone still actually gives a damn about who shared what at this stage of the game. Disagree all you want: that's entirely your perogative.

People have moved on.... there's a new BB just waiting in the wings. Stick around for that one - it'll be fun. :D

[Scotty07]

:laugh2: