Once Upon a Time

[Lostie!]

I think he's thinking of the Apprentice

http://i.imgur.com/nLTmmLE.gif

Merlin :love:

:flutter:

Still displeased with how they ended his story.

[Marsh.]

Oh, yes, I meant the Apprentice. Thank you Jonathan. :clap2:

It's so confusing them all having names of what is essentially the same person in other stories. :oh:

[Lostie!]

Can't believe Phil from Lost is causing all this drama still

[Marsh.]

He's not aged a day either, the doll. :love:

[Marsh.]

Wait, he gave Juliet a fat lip. I'm mad at him again.

[Firewire]

Is season 6 good? I haven't watched any of it.

[Marsh.]

So much better than 5. :clap2:

The Jekyll and Hyde stuff could've been explored more IMO, but the Evil Queen is actually owning the season again. It's not the best but it's good.

[Lostie!]

Wait, he gave Juliet a fat lip. I'm mad at him again.

Annoyed we didn't get an Author / Snow Queen scene for the Lost nostalgia.

Is season 6 good? I haven't watched any of it.

Hit and miss tbh. Mixture of stuff I'm not that bothered about and aspects that really interest me.

[Firewire]

I just sort of stopped watching everything, I'll catch up eventually but I hope it ends soon

[Marsh.]

I just zone out with Snow and Charming stuff but I've always done that.

[andybigbro]

When will the new eps be on Netflix?

[Marsh.]

When will the new eps be on Netflix?

They're on now. New episode every Wednesday.

[Lostie!]

Andrew J West has been cast in a mystery role in the finale with the potential to be a regular if a season 7 happens. I loved him in The Walking Dead so definitely interested in this.

a strong yet vulnerable leading man in his late 20s to mid-30s, a gent who was once optimistic and hopeful but now is a friendless, cynical recluse. That said, he still possesses a dormant, deep-seated spark of hope that waits for the right person to reignite it.

A new child character is joining alongside

a precocious 10-year-old with a “constant twinkle of mischief in her eye.” And though this girl comes from a broken home, those struggles have only made her stronger — something which will come in handy when darkness threatens everything she holds dear.

There's been quite a bit of talk lately about season 6 sort of wrapping up the current stories and a possible 7th season going in a new direction so people are guessing this is a grown up Henry. Sounds like a similar sort of set-up to what Emma and Henry had at the start of the show.

But if they do get a 7th season (I'm not convinced they will) and do have a time-jump, I can't imagine the show without Jennifer Morrison and Lana Parrilla in particular so I'd guess they'd still be worked in somehow. But yeah, I've been assuming for a while now that season 6 will be the last.

[Tom4784]

Gideon's storyline could be interesting, the first half of the series was quite directionless so I'm glad they've hammered down some semblance of an arc now.

[Tom4784]

Andrew J West has been cast in a mystery role in the finale with the potential to be a regular if a season 7 happens. I loved him in The Walking Dead so definitely interested in this.



A new child character is joining alongside



There's been quite a bit of talk lately about season 6 sort of wrapping up the current stories and a possible 7th season going in a new direction so people are guessing this is a grown up Henry. Sounds like a similar sort of set-up to what Emma and Henry had at the start of the show.

But if they do get a 7th season (I'm not convinced they will) and do have a time-jump, I can't imagine the show without Jennifer Morrison and Lana Parrilla in particular so I'd guess they'd still be worked in somehow. But yeah, I've been assuming for a while now that season 6 will be the last.

Yeah, I can't see it getting a 7th series unless they do a shorter season to finish it off which would likely be extraneous given the fact they've hinted that Season 6 will wrap everything up just in case.

[Marsh.]

I'm glad tbh. There's only so many times they can recycle the same plots. This Regina and Emma trapped in an alternate reality has been done about 3 times.

They're probably resetting in season 7 nor just to prolong the show but change the cast as I can't see many of them wanting to go past their 7 year contracts. Robert Carlyle especially.

[Tom4784]

I hope Lana stays if there is a S7, everybody else is kind of dispensable now and they're just treading water but there's still more stories to tell with her.

[Lostie!]

I do definitely think a reboot of sorts is the way to go if they continue for another season so I'm glad they might be setting the stage for that should they be renewed.

But if the theories about the casting do come true, I can imagine that being a fitting conclusion too if it does end this year.

[Firewire]

If the show gets renewed most of the cast might be gone only Jennifer Morrison, Lana Parrilla, Robert Carlyle and Colin O'Donoghue are in discussions to return

http://tvline.com/2017/03/10/once-upon-a-time-season-7-morrison-parrilla-carlyle-o-donoghue-contracts/

[Marsh.]

I hope Lana stays if there is a S7, everybody else is kind of dispensable now and they're just treading water but there's still more stories to tell with her.

It happens with most shows tbh, but most of the main cast appear bored to me after six years. Even Rumplestiltskin scenes are feeling a bit flat.

It's only this year, I feel Lana is fully engaged again as the Evil Queen. It looks like she's missed not playing her as much. :love:

[Marsh.]

If the show gets renewed most of the cast might be gone only Jennifer Morrison, Lana Parrilla, Robert Carlyle and Colin O'Donoghue are in discussions to return

http://tvline.com/2017/03/10/once-upon-a-time-season-7-morrison-parrilla-carlyle-o-donoghue-contracts/

No more Belle. :flutter:

[Firewire]

They should just sack everyone and have Rebecca Mader as sole lead

[Marsh.]

They should just sack everyone and have Rebecca Mader as sole lead

I was just about to say, they better be offering her a new contract. :fist:

[andybigbro]

I liked the episode.

It was good to have it back :hugesmile:

[Lostie!]

If the show gets renewed most of the cast might be gone only Jennifer Morrison, Lana Parrilla, Robert Carlyle and Colin O'Donoghue are in discussions to return

http://tvline.com/2017/03/10/once-upon-a-time-season-7-morrison-parrilla-carlyle-o-donoghue-contracts/

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Nothing against Colin but I really don't like Hook and really don't get the collective obsession the writers and some of the fans have with him.

Honestly I'd be happy with just Lana and Rebecca returning (of the main cast that is, there are plenty of recurring characters who've been underutilized who I'd like to see more of too).

[Tom4784]

Here for S7 basically being a Regina/Zelena spinoff tbh!

[Lostie!]

That would honestly be glorious

[Will.]

I really enjoyed that episode!

[Will.]

Yeah Hook is alright, but I don't get the obsession.

Regina/Snow/Zelena/Swan/Bell tbh.

[Lostie!]

Just watched. Did anyone else find it hilarious when Rumple spilled Belle's bones out of the sack? :joker:

[RichardG]

is this show still on :worry:

i might give it another go in the future i think i got to season 3 maybe?? last time before i stopped watching

[Lostie!]

So I was just reading some filming reports on Twitter and people are saying there's a scene later in the season where Zelena hits the Black Fairy with her car

:laugh2: I need this to happen now

[Marsh.]

So I was just reading some filming reports on Twitter and people are saying there's a scene later in the season where Zelena hits the Black Fairy with her car

:laugh2: I need this to happen now

:joker:

[Lostie!]

So, about that twist in last week's episode. I'm glad there was more to it than just King George having David's father killed because that would have been boringly predictable and Hook being the killer was definitely a shock but this will just be a catalyst for more Charming family drama that I really don't care about. And it's common knowledge that he's killed plenty of innocents in the past so I'm not sure what sort of story progression this will lead to.

New Robin possibly being a villain could be interesting though. I was worried they were gonna use the Wish Realm to essentially insert Robin back into the story as if real Robin never died so I'm glad that doesn't seem to be the case. Yet.

[Tom4784]

So I was just reading some filming reports on Twitter and people are saying there's a scene later in the season where Zelena hits the Black Fairy with her car

:laugh2: I need this to happen now

That would be amazing although it leads me to the question of why she needs a car when she teleports everywhere anyway.

[Tom4784]

So, about that twist in last week's episode. I'm glad there was more to it than just King George having David's father killed because that would have been boringly predictable and Hook being the killer was definitely a shock but this will just be a catalyst for more Charming family drama that I really don't care about. And it's common knowledge that he's killed plenty of innocents in the past so I'm not sure what sort of story progression this will lead to.

New Robin possibly being a villain could be interesting though. I was worried they were gonna use the Wish Realm to essentially insert Robin back into the story as if real Robin never died so I'm glad that doesn't seem to be the case. Yet.

Every David storyline is boring, I'd forgotten all about the abortion of a storyline that is 'who killed David's dad but more importantly, who cares?' and I was glad to have it wrapped up in this episode and then they went and found a way to drag it out. It's just a filler storyline and it'll have no impact on everything.

The Robin storyline is potentially interesting, I just hope they actually go through with making him a villain. Regina is boring when she's loved up.

[Marsh.]

I don't remember it coming up that David's father was murdered in the past. When was it?

[Lostie!]

I don't think it was until the Evil Queen brought it up in 6A. Before then it was only referred to as an accident I think.

[Lostie!]

Finally an episode that advanced the main story after the dull meandering we've had for the past few weeks. The Black Fairy finally arriving in Storybrooke has significantly raised my interest level :clap1: (and this sounds super gay but I loved her new outfit at the end). I liked the reveal that she created the Dark Curse too.

Gideon's actions had been annoying me a little before this episode when you consider how much easier it would have been to just ask Emma for help killing the Black Fairy in the first place so the twist of her having his heart and forcing him to kill Emma was a good way of explaining that. Also, nice touch with her fairy dust turning people into bugs, way back in a season 1 flashback Snow White had some dust that did the same which presumably originated from the Black Fairy, nice way to tie it together.

"THIS IS ON YOU, GIDEON!...
...and my boot :hehe:"
:joker: Love her.

It really does look like they're gearing up for the show ending with the "last chapter / final battle" stuff (or at least, bringing the current incarnation of the show to an end this season). It would be fitting if the final villain was the one who created the curse that kicked off the whole show in the first place.

Really liked seeing Isaac again, even if just for one episode. And if that's the last we see of him, I kind of love that he basically got away with everything he did in the end :laugh:

As predicted, I still didn't care about the Hook story but I enjoyed Blackbeard in those scenes at least.

[Tom4784]

The Black Fairy is so ridiculous and over the top, I love her.

[Lostie!]

I forgot to say about the episode before this one, I liked that they kept in continuity with the Wonderland spin-off by having Jafar turned into a genie (I bet that confused a lot of people who didn't see the other show :laugh:). I just wish he had more to do, he was a brilliant villain in the spin-off (one of my favourites from both shows actually) while in the main show he just appeared sporadically in a not-very-interesting B-plot. Shame as I thought Oded Fehr was just as good in the role as Naveen Andrews.

[Glenn.]

Caught up to last nights.

Finally a bit of Zelena after being on the sidelines for ages.

The Black Fairy seriously needs to up her game though because I don't feel any real threat from her at the minute. Next weeks should flesh her out a bit more now the Blue Fairy's heart is beating again.

[Tom4784]

Not OuaT having it's first truly great episode in seasons :clap1:

Living for the Black Fairy, it really annoys me that they waited so long to bring her into this season though, The Evil Queen was fun but I wouldn't have minded if they cut that arc down to make room for the BF's entry into Storybrooke to happen during the first half because she's way more interesting than Mr Hyde/Land of Untold story based episodes were. I did roll my eyes slightly at the fact they tried to make her sympathetic and I will fume if they turn her good at the last second to sacrifice herself for everyone but nevertheless Robert Carlyle and Jamie Murray did a good job of carrying the cliched parts of the episode.

I SCREAMED at Zelena mowing down the Black Fairy in the Soccer Mom Car.

Next episode looks HIGHLY messy and I'm not here for it.

[Marsh.]

I forgot to say about the episode before this one, I liked that they kept in continuity with the Wonderland spin-off by having Jafar turned into a genie (I bet that confused a lot of people who didn't see the other show :laugh:). I just wish he had more to do, he was a brilliant villain in the spin-off (one of my favourites from both shows actually) while in the main show he just appeared sporadically in a not-very-interesting B-plot. Shame as I thought Oded Fehr was just as good in the role as Naveen Andrews.

Oded Fehr has been in a few shows and movies I've seen and always puts in a solid performance, can't believe how much they wasted him tbh.

[Marsh.]

This episode had me waiting for the Big Bad Blue reveal on Lostie's behalf tbh. So close, yet so far.

[Tom4784]

I think that ship has sailed tbh </3 the writers aren't smart enough to come up with a twist like that.

[Marsh.]

LIVING for the Black Fairy's forehead pillow. :love: I want one.

[Glenn.]

It was a great episode. Some actual decent twists in it too.

Low-key perched for the musical episode. It is Disney after all.

[Marsh.]

Rebecca Mader getting a solo number is the only one I'm interested in tbh.

[Lostie!]

I actually thought this episode was really disappointing, which is a shame because it's the one I was most anticipating. After all the build up to the Black Fairy (I've been waiting for her ever since they first mentioned her years ago), her backstory was really underwhelming.

So you can just wave a fairy's wand around and become one yourself? That was weird.

Then there was her randomly turning into the Black Fairy while trying to kill Tiger Lily. I assume they were suggesting that her using her fairy magic to kill someone tainted her powers or something - sort of similar to Nimue becoming the Dark One when she used the Holy Grail magic for that - but it seemed far less random and forced in the Nimue situation.

And then there's all the hype surrounding her. They first mentioned her way back in season 3 as one of the most powerful fairies ever and she herself says she "practically invented dark magic" … she was a fairy for a very short period of time before being banished and certainly wasn't older than Nimue (who I assume was the true progenitor of dark magic). Doesn't quite live up to expectations.

They should have had her as always being a fairy and practising dark arts for many years but decided to turn her into just some woman who suddenly becomes a fairy, briefly dabbles in dark magic and has a random magical wardrobe change before being banished. It's a shame I found it all so anticlimactic because the potential for the character was huge and Jaime is perfect in the role.

And yeah, the evil Blue idea is pretty much dead now, this would have been the episode to do it. :idc:

I did like the twist with Rumple originally being destined to be the Savior though. That was cool.

[Lostie!]

/essay

[Marsh.]

Yeah, OUaT has well and truly killed this trope of all the villains being goodies who had a bit of a bad day and cursed themselves into a villain. :laugh:

[Lostie!]

Oh and her fight with Regina consisting of some generic magic blasts and then she ***** away when Zelena ran her over. This is supposed to be "the most ultimate villain EVERRRR!!!".

[Marsh.]

Until the season 7 premiere when there is a new "Evilest evil everrrr!!!!"

[Tom4784]

Oh and her fight with Regina consisting of some generic magic blasts and then she ***** away when Zelena ran her over. This is supposed to be "the most ultimate villain EVERRRR!!!".

Dat TV budget though!

[Marsh.]

Jennifer Morrison has quit the show.

But something tells me that the show will not get renewed.

I'm surprised actually, she was the one I thought would be a certainty for returning. It was Robert Carlyle I was sure may not want to continue.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/once-upon-a-time/news/a827763/jennifer-morrison-quits-once-upon-a-time-season-7/

[Marsh.]

That musical episode was bloody awful.

Axe this show now.

[Lostie!]

I enjoyed it. :ninja2:

I'm looking forward to the finale, it's all feeling very final (which is good since it's called The Final Battle :laugh:), I like that they took this approach in case it does end with this finale.

My first thought when finding out about Jennifer leaving was that Emma would probably die in the battle (taking the Black Fairy down with her of course), but then I remembered about the very likely time jump coming so even if a season 7 went ahead, it would make sense for Emma not to be around as much but still be alive.

I do wonder if they'll hark back to season 3 by having Rumple die taking down the Black Fairy as he did with Pan but I think she's Emma's alone to defeat at this point.

[Lostie!]

But why the **** was Belle not at the wedding? :oh: Even Zelena was there ffs :laugh:

The way this show has consistently neglected her all throughout the show has been ridiculous.

[Marsh.]

I remember that before the musical episode the writers said Rumple and Belle would not be around "due to the events in the previous episode 'The Black Fairy' although Rumple will make an appearance.

So, what was the reason for Belle not appearing?

[Marsh.]

Also, all of this stuff about being contracted to appear in one episode of season 7, does that mean Emma's contract included that 1 episode already before they opened negotiations to renew the contract or that's what they've asked of her after she quit?

[Tom4784]

The musical episode was okay I guess? The songs were fun but I thought the story was weak and very thrown together. The writers wanted to do a musical episode but obviously couldn't come up with a good reason to justify it so it all felt like a redundant gimmick tbh.

It's a shame because if any series should have been able to do a great musical episode it should be Once.

Overall Buffy just did the concept better.

[Tom4784]

Jennifer Morrison isn't the only Once Upon a Time star leaving the show.

Rebecca Mader – who plays Zelena (aka the Wicked Witch of the West) – will also be departing, making the announcement on her Instagram page after a seventh season was confirmed by ABC.

She began by congratulating the creators of the show as well as stars Lana Parrilla (Regina), Robert Carlyle (Rumplestiltskin), and Colin O'Donoghue (Hook) for the pick-up, before explaining her situation.


"A lot of you have been asking if I will be joining everyone in season 7, so I wanted to let you know personally that unfortunately I am not," she wrote.

"This wasn't my choice but a creative decision of the show that I totally respect and understand."

Mader spent a large part of her post praising the fans, calling them special for making her time feel "meaningful".

"The most important thing is that you all know how much you mean to me," she said.

"I am told frequently both online and in person that by being a part of such a special show, I have in some way changed someone's life. This is hugely meaningful to me.

"I am here to let you know that I am the one who has changed. Not just by playing such a well-written multi-dimensional character, but by the fandom itself. I have heard your stories, your pain, your struggles, your achievements, and I have truly felt you."

So we now know that Zelena is going as well as Emma Swan (although Jennifer Morrison did say she would be appearing as a guest in one episode). And we know that Regina, Rumplestiltskin and Hook will be back.

But what about Snow White (Ginnifer Goodwin), Prince Charming (Josh Dallas), Henry Mills (Jared S Gilmore), and Belle (Emilie de Ravin)?

We guess we'll find out soon enough...

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[Marsh.]

Here for Lana and Robert but why the feck is Hook still around?

Poor Zelena. :umm2:

[Marsh.]

I'm still shocked Robert Carlyle is continuing tbh. I always got the impression he had long become a bit bored.

[Lostie!]

So this has been officially renewed. Very surprised but I'm intrigued to see what this new direction looks like.

http://tvline.com/2017/05/11/once-upon-a-time-renewed-season-7-reset/

Shame about Zelena but it was expected, they haven't really had much for her to do this season.

[Lostie!]

Oh the Rebecca store Dezzy posted mentions the renewal, soz. :ninja2:

[Marsh.]

Stupid bloody fool.

[Marsh.]

But, as we knew the rumours about them only wanting to bring those 4 regulars into the reboot I was kind of hoping after Morrison decided to quit that they'd write Hook out with her.

The fact that Hook is still confirmed to be back must mean she dies, right?

Not here for a full season of Hook mooning about Emma being lost in another world or whatever. What other reason could they be split up?

[Glenn.]

Surprised it was renewed tbh. Sad that Zelena is obviously gonna die

[Marsh.]

I'm ecstatic at the prospect of losing a lot of this cast though. I didn't realise quite how bored I am of all of them.

Lana and Robert leading. :love:

[Lostie!]

Upgrade Keegan Connor Tracy to the main cast, I demand it.

[Marsh.]

The Black Fairy to turn good and Jaime Murray to join the reboot?

[Tom4784]

Snow, Charming and Belle have all been dropped :clap1:

No more Charming-centric episodes!

http://media.tumblr.com/a7fb96ef04ce7637bb39919a6786f201/tumblr_inline_ml8ay787vK1qzxiar.gif

[Marsh.]

:flutter:

And no more Jared Gilmore. :cheer2:

[Marsh.]

Do we know anything about what this reboot will entail?

[Tom4784]

Do we know anything about what this reboot will entail?

It's set a few years later, I think I remember them looking into casting a new male lead who was rumoured to be a grown up Henry.

[Tom4784]

I don't think they'll be revealing anything concrete until after Sunday though.

[Glenn.]

I hope it works well for the show. It needs a revamp

[Marsh.]

Reading the American news sites and all the people crying in the comments. :laugh2:

I didn't realise Emma/Hook and Charming/Snow had such passionate fans.

I find both couples utterly boring and as for Charming/Snow, their individual characters have always bored me.

[Tom4784]

Snow used to be likable and she has her moments but I'd gladly sacrifice her if it means we don't get another dreadful Charming episode.

[Tom4784]

I wouldn't mind if Hook left either but I don't think that's likely due to all the thirsty housewife viewers. He should never have been a regular character.

[Marsh.]

Although, having said that, as much as I think Carlyle is the best actor on the show, Rumple does get a bit repetitive too.

[Tom4784]

Although, having said that, as much as I think Carlyle is the best actor on the show, Rumple does get a bit repetitive too.

Belle leaving should change things up hopefully.

[Glenn.]

Never connected with Belle tbh. I don't think she's a very good actress.

[andybigbro]

I like Hook, but I don't see his purpose without Emma :conf2:

[Marsh.]

Never connected with Belle tbh. I don't think she's a very good actress.

:clap1:

I thought she's always been wooden, even on Lost.

[Lostie!]

Snow, Charming and Belle have all been dropped :clap1:

No more Charming-centric episodes!

http://media.tumblr.com/a7fb96ef04ce7637bb39919a6786f201/tumblr_inline_ml8ay787vK1qzxiar.gif

As much as I like some of the departing characters, this radical shake-up really has increased my interest in the seventh season. One thing I've criticised the show for in the past is an apparent unwillingness to truly shake up the status quo in a big way so I'm definitely interested in seeing what the new era of the show looks like.

It's set a few years later, I think I remember them looking into casting a new male lead who was rumoured to be a grown up Henry.

Yeah, Andrew J West is heavily speculated to be an older Henry. Quite a way from the role I associate him with (cannibal Gareth in TWD :laugh:)

[Tom4784]

I liked Belle to begin with but the writers turned her into a ball and chain which killed any storyline variety that Rumple might have had in his story.

[Marsh.]

Watching the finale now. It's kind of a mess. A good idea behind it but it's a mess.

[Marsh.]

So Emma's Boston apartment has been sitting empty for six years?

[Marsh.]

I'm glad the show will no longer circle around Emma. Jennifer Morrison has looked bored for about three years.

[Marsh.]

:umm2: That ending.

[Lostie!]

I'm gonna miss Jaime Murray next season more than most of the regulars who've left.

[Marsh.]

I kind of hoped what with the way the finale was set up she'd be the "Regina" of the reboot.

Her death was so anticlimactic. But then most of OUaT has been like that.

[Lostie!]

Oh I had no doubt she'd be dying in this finale, would have loved her to continue on though. And I agree, both her death and her backstory was really underwhelming but I just loved Jaime in the role, one of my very favourite cast members of the show actually.

And as much as the writers didn't always do the Black Fairy justice, I have to credit them with something. Her pushing Henry down the stairs, then taunting him in his hospital bed by serving him the ashes of the OUaT book on a platter was golden. What a glorious BITCH. :flutter:

[Glenn.]

I'm a little mad that they are continuing the 'story' after that finale. It was kinda perfect and should just end there.

[Marsh.]

Tbf, next season is a new story. So essentially that was the end of the first six seasons and most of its characters bar the 4 that will continue on.

[Lostie!]

I always felt like the season 3 midseason finale would have been a perfect ending, even more so than this finale (as much as I liked it). I always did prefer bittersweet conclusions to full-on happy endings though.

That said, I'm still happy for the show to continue on just because, while the long-term storytelling on this show tends to turn into a bit of a mess, I've really loved some of the spins they've put on particular classic stories and there are still so many more to mine from. Actually, I think OUaT would probably work even better as a collection of short stories rather than longer continuing arcs.

Did anyone else hear about this? http://ew.com/tv/2017/04/25/once-upon-time-vignette-episodes-answers/

I hope they still do it in the future for any characters they don't get around to revisiting in depth.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, if all of the "arcs" they've done on the show, tending to be half a season in length weren't all messily connected to longer arcs and characters stories they'd have probably all been a hell of a lot better.

[Marsh.]

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/once-upon-a-time/news/a828495/once-upon-a-time-inhumans-agents-of-shield-land-abc-fall-schedule-slots/

The show's been moved to Fridays at 8. :unsure:

Something tells me it's the network that has forced the bosses hand in the reboot.
They probably got wind that if they were to be renewed they'd be given a death slot because the ratings are on the slide so the writers thought right, let's wrap up the show effectively and just write a new plot in the new time slot.

[Marsh.]

Reminds me of when poor Fringe was shoved into Fridays. But then the show created a brilliant trailer to mock it. :flutter:

[Glenn.]

The series 3 mid season finale... was that when Emma and Henry went to New York?

[Lostie!]

The series 3 mid season finale... was that when Emma and Henry went to New York?

Yeah, when everyone else got sent back to the Enchanted Forest and Emma and Henry lost their memories of Storybrooke. If you cut out the scene with Hook showing up in New York, it felt very final.

[Glenn.]

Tbf, next season is a new story. So essentially that was the end of the first six seasons and most of its characters bar the 4 that will continue on.

Keep it. I don't want it

[Glenn.]

Yeah, when everyone else got sent back to the Enchanted Forest and Emma and Henry lost their memories of Storybrooke. If you cut out the scene with Hook showing up in New York, it felt very final.

I said to my sister at the time that it would have been a great last episode.

[Tom4784]

I liked the last two episodes but they were problematic. I can't believe they did Fiona like that </3 She deserved better than to be offed at the 11th hour and replaced by a walking talking plot device </3.

I also HOWLED at her showing Rumple the obviously doctored images of Belle. Queen of the trial version of Photoshop :love: I shall miss her.

If Season 7 is going to be a redux of Season 1 then I hope the writers learn from their mistakes this time around and rely less on magic as a deus ex machina, honestly if I see another flashback centred around retrieving a convenient magical item that will solve the character's problems I will lose the will to live.

Also they need to drop True Love's Kiss being a magical fix all solution. it got a bit silly in this episode when it saved Charming from a perfectly natural non magical death plummet for no other reason then just because.

Season 1 was the best season because they didn't have magic as a lazy way out, they should try to go back to that.

Finally I screeched at them not being able to get back Sean Maguire or any of the Frozen characters for that one scene and having to settle for an arrow and a Reindeer as their stand ins.

[Lostie!]

So some people think Lucy's mother is Moana. :laugh:

I said to my sister at the time that it would have been a great last episode.

I always more preferred the idea of the fairytale characters returning to their world in the end rather than staying in Storybrooke tbh.

[Tom4784]

So some people think Lucy's mother is Moana. :laugh:



I always more preferred the idea of the fairytale characters returning to their world in the end rather than staying in Storybrooke tbh.

I did notice that one of the Story world doors had a Moana aesthetic tbh. I could see it happening.

[Lostie!]

Yeah I saw a screengrab posted of that door, I didn't notice it at the time. Since they did Frozen and Brave I definitely see them doing Moana too.

I'm just glad they're not trying to pass off Lucy as Violet's daughter :laugh:

[Nicky91]

i've started watching this now :) and i think it's a nice show, i love fairytales

[Lostie!]

Five new cast members for season 7, two being series regulars

Gabrielle Anwar (regular)
Dania Ramirez (regular)
Adelaide Kane
Mekia Cox
Rose Reynolds

http://tvline.com/2017/07/06/once-upon-a-time-season-7-new-cast-gabrielle-anwar-dania-ramirez/

[storybrooke]

Ooo I can't wait to see Adelaide Kane in OUAT. Loved her in Reign, she's such a good actress. Wonder who she will be playing?

Also, maybe Dania Ramirez will be playing Lucy's mum?

[Marsh.]

Five new cast members for season 7, two being series regulars



http://tvline.com/2017/07/06/once-upon-a-time-season-7-new-cast-gabrielle-anwar-dania-ramirez/
Where is Ana Ortiz?

[Lostie!]

So Dania is playing a new version of Cinderella … she's also Lucy's mother.

https://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/cind-main.jpg

And Edward Kitsis has said “Henry is in a new Enchanted Forest, with characters that we have seen before but with different tales,”

Not a direction I anticipated they'd be going in but I'm definitely intrigued and I actually really like the idea of multiple universes with different versions of the stories existing. I just hope they take the opportunity to make some interesting deviations from the original versions of characters we already know (like established heroes being villains etc).

On the surface it does look like maybe they were struggling to think of new stories to mine from so they decided to do new versions of ones we've already had but I don't care as long as they have fun with it :laugh:

I'm gonna go ahead and predict Gabrielle Anwar will be the new Evil Queen.

[Marsh.]

Oh I didn't know Devious Maids woman was in it.

[Marsh.]

I had hopes but this looks messy af.

[Marsh.]

Oh I didn't know Devious Maids woman was in it.

Where is Ana Ortiz?

My memory loss era?

[Lostie!]

I had hopes but this looks messy af.

I think it has potential if done right.

I mean, it's probable it won't be because this show has wasted various opportunities before but on paper at least I really like the idea :laugh:

[Tom4784]

So Dania is playing a new version of Cinderella … she's also Lucy's mother.

https://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/cind-main.jpg

And Edward Kitsis has said

Not a direction I anticipated they'd be going in but I'm definitely intrigued and I actually really like the idea of multiple universes with different versions of the stories existing. I just hope they take the opportunity to make some interesting deviations from the original versions of characters we already know (like established heroes being villains etc).

On the surface it does look like maybe they were struggling to think of new stories to mine from so they decided to do new versions of ones we've already had but I don't care as long as they have fun with it :laugh:

I'm gonna go ahead and predict Gabrielle Anwar will be the new Evil Queen.

Interesting although they run the risk of repeating themselves.

[Lostie!]

Interesting although they run the risk of repeating themselves.

Yeah, and that's something this show does a lot of anyway with the cavalcade of dark curses etc so they really need to take the opportunity to do something new with these stories to make this pay off. Could be brilliant or a waste of time.

But I do really like the concept of basically alternate universes with different versions of these stories playing out with completely different people filling the various roles in each version rather than different versions of the same people like most alternate universe stories do.

[storybrooke]

Has there been any news about Belle?

[Lostie!]

Definitely not returning as a regular but the showrunners have hinted at those who left still making guest appearances so she could still reappear. Nothing confirmed either way yet though.

[Lostie!]

More cast news

Gabrielle Anwar - a new Lady Tremaine (presumably the new main antagonist)
Adelaide Kane - Drizella (they called the season 6 version Tisbe but have used the Disney name for the new one, so some share names with their counterparts and some don't)
Rose Reynolds - a new Alice
Mekia Cox - Tiana
Emma Booth - someone just referred to as The Witch (but confirmed not to be a new version of Zelena)

Belle and Gideon will also be reappearing.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, and that's something this show does a lot of anyway with the cavalcade of dark curses etc so they really need to take the opportunity to do something new with these stories to make this pay off. Could be brilliant or a waste of time.

But I do really like the concept of basically alternate universes with different versions of these stories playing out with completely different people filling the various roles in each version rather than different versions of the same people like most alternate universe stories do.

It would've been an interesting take for the Land of Untold Stories in season 6 tbh.

[Marsh.]

Mess at them saying they've brought Alice back because nobody watched the spin off. :joker:

[Lostie!]

I did :oh:

[Lostie!]

Speaking of the spin-off, there was a big theory that the Red Queen would turn out to be one of Cinderella's step sisters because of her name Anastasia and her backstory seemed to line up but then they never followed through on it in the main show so they could use this to tie that back around. Could be why they've announced Drizella but not Anastasia.

[Firewire]

Bex Mader will return for a guest arc in season 7

[Marsh.]

Bex Mader will return for a guest arc in season 7
:clap1:

[Firewire]

I think as the season progresses they've realised it's not very good without the original cast

I expect more will return in the second half

[Marsh.]

When does it premiere?

[Firewire]

October 6th

[Littlegreen]

Emma was my favourite character so I'm genuinely gutted she will only be in one ep.

[Lostie!]

Mekia Cox (Tiana) is now a regular after originally being announced as recurring.

Bex Mader will return for a guest arc in season 7

:worship:

[Tom4784]

Yaas at Zelena returning.

[Marsh.]

I bet they're all in every episode by the second half of the season, the old regulars.

Bookmark me.

[Tom4784]

I thought the first episode was pretty good, I like Lady Tremaine as a villain and that she doesn't rely on magic to get **** done, here for them jettisoning magic as a lazy plot device from here on out.

[Marsh.]

I love the idea but the actress is poor so far. Not a patch on Regina.

Also WELP at Morrison's Emma wig.

[Marsh.]

Ronnie better have something about her.

[Marsh.]

Also, isn't it funny how some different versions of characters are literally different people but some look exactly the same. :hee:

[Ross.]

Ronnie better have something about her.

https://m0.her.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/26081042/Ronnie-Mitchell-Robot..gif

[Marsh.]

https://m0.her.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/26081042/Ronnie-Mitchell-Robot..gif

Omg she's possessed our Regina in Seattle.

[Marsh.]

Can somebody explain the hold that Victoria has over Jacinda?

I'd understand if Jacinda had to rely on her for money and a place to live to bring her daughter up but she doesn't. She's left to scrape together every penny she can.

So... why can't she tell Belfry to go stick it? :shrug:

[Tom4784]

I'm really enjoying this series so far, I liked how they got around the issue of Hook and Emma without retconning Season 6's ending. Now that they've established why Regina and Hook were in a position to be cursed, I hope they start to develop the new characters a bit more.

I've got a feeling this curse will be over by the midseason break, it feels like things are moving quite quickly considering it's only the second episode.

Can somebody explain the hold that Victoria has over Jacinda?

I'd understand if Jacinda had to rely on her for money and a place to live to bring her daughter up but she doesn't. She's left to scrape together every penny she can.

So... why can't she tell Belfry to go stick it? :shrug:

I think Victoria has custody of the kid so Jacinda has to comply with what she says.

[Marsh.]

I think Victoria has custody of the kid so Jacinda has to comply with what she says.

OH!

That's interesting. They could've made it more bloody clear though.

I'm really enjoying this series so far, I liked how they got around the issue of Hook and Emma without retconning Season 6's ending. Now that they've established why Regina and Hook were in a position to be cursed, I hope they start to develop the new characters a bit more.

I've got a feeling this curse will be over by the midseason break, it feels like things are moving quite quickly considering it's only the second episode.

I like the idea of it all but the execution is a bit lacking.

Hyperion Heights is nowhere near as interesting a location as Storybrooke, I know they have a lot to deal with introducing everything but they could've set up the locations better I felt.

And so far, as brilliantly camp as the villain is, she's a bit too Regina 2.0 so far.

Also, the acting is letting it down. Wish Hook was bloody awful, as is Rumple, which is surprising as Robert is normally the show's best actor.

[Marsh.]

Oh, another positive, the lady playing Jacinda. I'm so glad the whiny voice she had as Rosie in Devious Maids wasn't real. :joker:

[Tom4784]

OH!

That's interesting. They could've made it more bloody clear though.



I like the idea of it all but the execution is a bit lacking.

Hyperion Heights is nowhere near as interesting a location as Storybrooke, I know they have a lot to deal with introducing everything but they could've set up the locations better I felt.

And so far, as brilliantly camp as the villain is, she's a bit too Regina 2.0 so far.

Also, the acting is letting it down. Wish Hook was bloody awful, as is Rumple, which is surprising as Robert is normally the show's best actor.

I feel attacked by whatever accent it is that Robert's trying to do.

I think Tremaine's pretty good so far, I think the fact that she isn't sympathetic thus far is enough to differentiate her from Regina as is how tactical she is while Regina was a more emotionally driven character. I hope they don't try to make her sympathetic since it would really go against the whole icy tactician vibe she's got going on.


Oh, another positive, the lady playing Jacinda. I'm so glad the whiny voice she had as Rosie in Devious Maids wasn't real. :joker:

I lik Jacinda so far although they're pushing the whole 'I'm not a Damsel in Distress' thing too hard and clumsily.

[Tom4784]

I'm really liking this series so far, I thought they were mostly repeating themselves thus far but the last episode really differentiated this season from the first.

[Barry.]

Sadly it is doing bad in America tv, 0.5 rating.

[Marsh.]

Hardly surprising, the show's been falling in ratings for a few seasons and now it's on Friday nights. This will be its final season most definitely.

[Tom4784]

I'm okay with that as long as they finish it off and don't leave it on a cliffhanger.

[Tom4784]

The last episode was good although far too reminiscent of Up.

Hopefully Rumple thought to burn Belle's body to ashes just to make sure she couldn't come back to take the fun out of proceedings in the future.

[Marsh.]

The last episode was good although far too reminiscent of Up.

Hopefully Rumple thought to burn Belle body to ashes just to make sure she couldn't come back to take the fun out of proceedings in the future.
:joker:

Until I've been reading around I had no idea how popular "Rumbelle" was in fandom. Talking about how well the actors work together and their chemistry.

:unsure: Sorry but I've never seen an ounce of chemistry between them and Emilie de Ravin is a rather below average actress.

[Tom4784]

:joker:

Until I've been reading around I had no idea how popular "Rumbelle" was in fandom. Talking about how well the actors work together and their chemistry.

:unsure: Sorry but I've never seen an ounce of chemistry between them and Emilie de Ravin is a rather below average actress.

I think it worked early on but the problem was that the relationship became too much of a predictable cycle of misery and tedium.

[Marsh.]

I think it worked early on but the problem was that the relationship became too much of a predictable cycle of misery and tedium.

The unfortunate fate of Rumple as a character too. They over-egged what made him popular in season 1 and 2 and tried to repeat and redo it over and over again.
Resulting in them desperately trying to cling onto a popular character and actor long after their storyline came to its natural conclusion.

Even now in season 7, with a proposed "reboot" Rumple is sticking out as a 'writers love the actor so are desperately trying to force him to fit whatever story they tell' and it's not really working for me.

[Glenn.]

Hardly surprising, the show's been falling in ratings for a few seasons and now it's on Friday nights. This will be its final season most definitely.

The last season should have been the last. It ended so perfectly ‘ish’
Like I mean, it came to a natural conclusion.

[Lostie!]

Finally caught up on the new season. Here for this coven storyline tbh. They've said the witches (or some at least) will be recognisable witches from fairytale / folklore. Come thru Baba Yaga and Morgan le Fay!

It's a shame I knew about every single plot development in the first half of the season because there were some really cool twists that I wish I hadn't been aware of beforehand but that's my own fault! Lady Tremaine being Rapunzel is the sort of thing that I used to love about this show in the first place.

I know Belle was relegated to being a spare part a lot of the time but her final episode :bawling:

[Marsh.]

When is this back?

Can't wait for Zelena. :love:

[Lostie!]

2nd March.

Zelena thinking Henry was Regina's boyfriend :omgno: :laugh2:

[Lostie!]

Confirmed to be ending this season. I've really enjoyed season 7 so hopefully it can end on a high note.

[LukeB]

Older Henry > Young Henry

[Marsh.]

Older Henry > Young Henry

Neither can act so I don't have a preference.

[Lostie!]

Andrew J West is a perfectly fine actor, Henry's just a dry role, he was a great villain in The Walking Dead.

Anyway there's lots of old characters returning for the last couple of episodes: Emma, Snow, Charming, Belle, original Hook, young Henry, Dwarves, Blue Fairy, Ariel, Geppetto, Jiminy, Granny, Smee, Robin Hood, Pongo, Peter Pan, Cruella.

[Marsh.]

Cruella who was criminally underused in Marcella.

[LukeB]

I love Tilly/Alice i wish she was a character on other seasons

[LukeB]

I'm bored and i'm doing a top 10 characters

1.Regina/The Evil Queen
2.Zelena/The Wicked Witch
3.Tilly/Alice
4.Emma
5.Hook
6.Jacinda/Cinderella
7.Rumple
8.Blue Fairy
9.Mulan
10.Snow White

[Marsh.]

I hope that's a season 7 list otherwise what A PISS POOR TOP 10.

[LukeB]

I hope that's a season 7 list otherwise what A PISS POOR TOP 10.

Well obviously not since Mulan is on that list who isn't on season 7 :oh:

[Glenn.]

This season needs to END.

[Tom4784]

I've enjoyed Season 7, it's not been perfect but I think it's been consistently better than Seasons 4-6 tbh.

[Marsh.]

I've enjoyed Season 7, it's not been perfect but I think it's been consistently better than Seasons 4-6 tbh.

They seem to have re-discovered their creativity in the final season.

[Glenn.]

The last few eps have been ok but it feels like it’s taken forever to get here and i don’t think it’s going to pay off.

When you think something is actually going to progress it just gets stopped in it’s tracks. It’s frustrating tbh

[Tom4784]

I think they have dragged the curse out a bit too much tbh. The curse should have been broken shortly after it returned after the break, I think.

[Marsh.]

I've enjoyed the myriad of villains this season, but I suppose for the finale it was inevitable we'd return to old Rumple.

[Glenn.]

I've just watched the last episode </3

I thought it was a great way to end.

[Marsh.]

Did Our Regina live?

[Glenn.]

Did Our Regina live?

https://i.imgur.com/Yo6ujXv.gif